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Fair question. I was addressing 'songster' on the issue of not knowing people's heart. God knows our heart because He is all knowing, but for you and me we have to use discernment through the word and listen to what people have to say and how they respond. That is why I quoted the last part of the verse in Mt 12:34 because it teaches us that we can know what is in the heart of people by what comes out of their mouth. You, as a Pastor, must see this alot when you counsel people and listen very carefully to what they have to say. It reveals something about their heart and where they are at and that is important to know. As we listen to their heart, God gives the grace that is needed to meet their need / Phil 4:19.
That' all I meant Pastor Keith.
That' all I meant Pastor Keith.
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Shad, I do thank you for your post, and for your diligence in searching for scriptures to post, however I really don't have it in me to debate the issue. When I read your post, my temptation was to search for more scriptures in the hope of expounding further to prove a point, but I am reminded of what HappynGod initiated, the realization that we sometimes mishandle the word of God, and belittle our brothers and sisters. I am convinced that, if not through my posts, then perhaps through the posts of others in this thread, the points have been clearly made and are understood by most.
When I first came to this website only months ago, my zeal tempted me to do the very thing I am now trying to avoid, debating. To explore a topic until I have exhausted my memory and my mental tolerance for a subject, is quickly losing its value for me. I am trying to transition by focusing, rather, on ways that I can use the word and my experiences, to heal, to help and to advise.
I gladly leave the biblical discussions and debates to individuals like yourself, but I would be remiss not to take this opoportunity to thank HappynGod again, for recognizing the need to post what the Holy Spirit laid on her heart, and for accurately representing the character of God.
I appreciate you all , and its an honor to know each one of you. As for me, I will make a conscious effort to conduct my conversations in a manner which reflects the love God has shown toward me, and that He is continually cultivating in my heart.
Matthew 10:16
...be as wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves..
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace to the hearers.
When I first came to this website only months ago, my zeal tempted me to do the very thing I am now trying to avoid, debating. To explore a topic until I have exhausted my memory and my mental tolerance for a subject, is quickly losing its value for me. I am trying to transition by focusing, rather, on ways that I can use the word and my experiences, to heal, to help and to advise.
I gladly leave the biblical discussions and debates to individuals like yourself, but I would be remiss not to take this opoportunity to thank HappynGod again, for recognizing the need to post what the Holy Spirit laid on her heart, and for accurately representing the character of God.
I appreciate you all , and its an honor to know each one of you. As for me, I will make a conscious effort to conduct my conversations in a manner which reflects the love God has shown toward me, and that He is continually cultivating in my heart.
Matthew 10:16
...be as wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves..
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace to the hearers.
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I agree with shad. Yes we need to be nice, loving and caring with no bitterness but there are times we need to stand up for what is right no matter what. However, when it comes to a point where it is not about defending scripture but just about being right then we need to walk away and let God take care of the rest.
I just had a few day post debate with a particular someone and that someone just was not budging to the truth so I finally said enough and left it alone. We may butt heads again in the future but I believe I will be more patient next time since I know who I am dealing with and I hope to grow in Christ in how to deal with others in a Christ - like manner.
I just had a few day post debate with a particular someone and that someone just was not budging to the truth so I finally said enough and left it alone. We may butt heads again in the future but I believe I will be more patient next time since I know who I am dealing with and I hope to grow in Christ in how to deal with others in a Christ - like manner.
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"Out of the heart are the issues of life"
I see the girls are more sensitive to the confrontations we see here than the guys. This is because their instinct is to nurture.
I believe there is a difference between someone starting a thread because they have a genuine concern or question and someone fronting for an organisation to push a particular barrow.
We feel very strongly about what we believe but we need to remember that God is no respector of persons and 'who are you to judge another man's servant? To his own master he stands or he falls'
Maybe it is a particularly australian trait but I find I can disagree vehemently with a person and still like them. Sometimes I say things for a humorous effect although that is not always recognised.
I see the girls are more sensitive to the confrontations we see here than the guys. This is because their instinct is to nurture.
I believe there is a difference between someone starting a thread because they have a genuine concern or question and someone fronting for an organisation to push a particular barrow.
We feel very strongly about what we believe but we need to remember that God is no respector of persons and 'who are you to judge another man's servant? To his own master he stands or he falls'
Maybe it is a particularly australian trait but I find I can disagree vehemently with a person and still like them. Sometimes I say things for a humorous effect although that is not always recognised.
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I will agree that I am very soft hearted and loving. I don't like bickering, maybe it is because I grew up with a lot of arguments and fights. I totally understand standing up for God, we are to NEVER back down from what the Word says. I never back down I just have to give to God what I can't do. Love goes a long way and love can change hearts a lot more than trying to prove a point. I had to learn when to leave things to God. I am not giving up on God when I back down I am just giving it to God. I love everyone here, the ones who post good remarks and the ones that post not so good remarks. It is not my point I am trying to get across but only the Words of God. I just know we can try to teach the Word of God till we are blue in the face, but in the end if you are still in the same place where you started then nothing was gained but hurt and bitterness. I don't want the discussions to end, I just wish they were done with more compassion of love and concern. Love is so important, what and how we say things can either bring people to God or lead them away. I am really concerned about how things are being said in the discussions. Please don't think that I don't want people to stand up for God because I do. I just wish people would choose their words more carefully. From the bottom of my heart I wish you all love and peace and may God bless You all. Amen
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Maybe I did not say this right.
I just know we can try to teach the Word of God till we are blue in the face, but in the end if you are still in the same place where you started then nothing was gained but hurt and bitterness.
What was gained was one trying to teach God's word.
So please try not to be upset the way I said what I did. I soon realized maybe I did not use the right words.
I just know we can try to teach the Word of God till we are blue in the face, but in the end if you are still in the same place where you started then nothing was gained but hurt and bitterness.
What was gained was one trying to teach God's word.
So please try not to be upset the way I said what I did. I soon realized maybe I did not use the right words.
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When a good seed (incorruptible) is planted you don't see any results right away. The soil had to be cultivated first and fertilized to plant the seed, it needs plenty of light and water, it needs to be care for in some cases on a daily basis before you see it break through the top of the soil. Then it has to establish firm roots in the soil. That is only the beginning of the nurturing process before that seed grows up to bloom and flourish and finally reproduce. It goes through lots of storms and inclement weather, but if the roots are strong is weather the storms and get stronger because of the integrity of the roots. You can always rejuvenate any plant that looks like it is dying on the surface by cultivating the soil and feeding the roots with good nutrients.
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