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physical properties still are a part.
If the water column in the atmosphere was greater pre flood, then after. then less radioactive particles will get through them.
it also helps explain why lives were shorter after. notice people still lived longer post flood (immediate) it is just as time when on, lifespans got smaller.
If the water column in the atmosphere was greater pre flood, then after. then less radioactive particles will get through them.
it also helps explain why lives were shorter after. notice people still lived longer post flood (immediate) it is just as time when on, lifespans got smaller.
But the Lord set the aging of a man immediately after the flood .... read this
There is nothing in scripture that explains the climate changing as you say .... I have not found it
Have you .... if so please post
The issue here is not a big deal excepting the biblical account of creation which is true
The evolutionist studies himself into the ground and comes up with all sorts of clamor .... if you know what I mean
And evolutionist you are not .... but be careful not to read into the biblical views what is not there
Because you will set yourself up for attack from the evo-crowd .... most of them know more from a scientific study and this gives them things to chew on
Best to give them the simple biblical account and then add the balance of the Lord's overview leading to ones salvation
There is nothing in scripture that explains the climate changing as you say .... I have not found it
Have you .... if so please post
The issue here is not a big deal excepting the biblical account of creation which is true
The evolutionist studies himself into the ground and comes up with all sorts of clamor .... if you know what I mean
And evolutionist you are not .... but be careful not to read into the biblical views what is not there
Because you will set yourself up for attack from the evo-crowd .... most of them know more from a scientific study and this gives them things to chew on
Best to give them the simple biblical account and then add the balance of the Lord's overview leading to ones salvation
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I look at it like this.
2 peter 3: [SUP]3 [/SUP]knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, [SUP]6 [/SUP]by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. [SUP]7 [/SUP]But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Radio carbon dating is based on this premise, It is where they "prove" in their minds the old earth theory. We also have the flood. Which was not a minor event, I do believe major upheaval of catostrophic proportions of the earth, its mantle, its crust, and the heavens took place at this time, And things were not the same after, as it was before.
A few books, (the genesis flood, and the earth's catostrophic past) goes into great detail on this, These men were not just Christians, they were scientists, and not just any scientist.
After reading these two (which is very in depth and scientific, and may be hard for many to read) I have changed my views on alot of things concerning creation and the flood.
2 peter 3: [SUP]3 [/SUP]knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, [SUP]6 [/SUP]by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. [SUP]7 [/SUP]But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Radio carbon dating is based on this premise, It is where they "prove" in their minds the old earth theory. We also have the flood. Which was not a minor event, I do believe major upheaval of catostrophic proportions of the earth, its mantle, its crust, and the heavens took place at this time, And things were not the same after, as it was before.
A few books, (the genesis flood, and the earth's catostrophic past) goes into great detail on this, These men were not just Christians, they were scientists, and not just any scientist.
After reading these two (which is very in depth and scientific, and may be hard for many to read) I have changed my views on alot of things concerning creation and the flood.
Dont know if someone made a post like this.
But what does the bible say about cavemen? Does it say anything?
I mean the Neanderthal, and Homo Erectus etc.
Also do you believe those are in heaven? Or had a chance of heaven? Cause they were mammals like us, werent they.
I dont want to offend anyone, or anything in this question. I'm just wondering.
But what does the bible say about cavemen? Does it say anything?
I mean the Neanderthal, and Homo Erectus etc.
Also do you believe those are in heaven? Or had a chance of heaven? Cause they were mammals like us, werent they.
I dont want to offend anyone, or anything in this question. I'm just wondering.
Only humans are capable of the objectivity required for objective reasoning and therefore language.
Whenever any animal develops objective reasoning it becomes human and develops language.
there is no in between.
The jump (passing over) from animal to human is all or nothing.
on the other hand humans have been speaking for so many millions of years that it has become an instinct.
Humans are able to speak even before they develop objectivity.
So if anyone is a knuckle dragging caveman that is not quite an animal and not quite a human being then it would be us modern human beings.
Dr. Hurd? Another deceived one. There is always an escape from reality in the company of fools. Radiometric dating fills my library of textbooks, thought to be the ultimate of evilutionist hopes. There is nothing left for you that is credible. Science has failed the evilutionists. The dating methods you now fall upon are equally flawed, disabled before radiometric dating was discredited.
The "proper lab"? That would be one that is run by biased evilutionists taking in contaminated soil samples.. Good grief...
The "proper lab"? That would be one that is run by biased evilutionists taking in contaminated soil samples.. Good grief...
You think like you spell.
It's "atheistic" and "credibility" and "catastrophic."
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences isn't anti-God or atheistic. Credibility is established by the fact that numerous Noble laureates and many of the most respected names in science are members.
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences does not support a 6,000-year-old world and global flood and maintains that evolution is compatible with the creation account.
It's "atheistic" and "credibility" and "catastrophic."
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences isn't anti-God or atheistic. Credibility is established by the fact that numerous Noble laureates and many of the most respected names in science are members.
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences does not support a 6,000-year-old world and global flood and maintains that evolution is compatible with the creation account.
Why it can't be a person that was born with a birth defect? Poor diet or eating things that we shouldn't be eating can as well causes a person to be under develop and or causes some part of the body to over develop while some part to under develop. God had made dietary laws so that the body will develop properly. If the brain isn't working in harmony, it will affect the body development. Have you noticed that the people of past look sort of different from the people of the present time, because it is due to the improvement of their diet. Back then they couldn't get different foods with good healthy benefits, like soy, it help the body to stay youthful, especially it is good for women because it has large amount of estrogen that keep a woman from having male features. Because the less estrogen, which that leave testosterone in their body, and which over time, a woman loses estrogen and that is why their features start looking masculine and start growing hair on their faces and some grown on their chest and back as well.
Why it can't be a person that was born with a birth defect? Poor diet or eating things that we shouldn't be eating can as well causes a person to be under develop and or causes some part of the body to over develop while some part to under develop. God had made dietary laws so that the body will develop properly. If the brain isn't working in harmony, it will affect the body development. Have you noticed that the people of past look sort of different from the people of the present time, because it is due to the improvement of their diet. Back then they couldn't get different foods with good healthy benefits, like soy, it help the body to stay youthful, especially it is good for women because it has large amount of estrogen that keep a woman from having male features. Because the less estrogen, which that leave testosterone in their body, and which over time, a woman loses estrogen and that is why their features start looking masculine and start growing hair on their faces and some grown on their chest and back as well.
Why it can't be a person that was born with a birth defect? Poor diet or eating things that we shouldn't be eating can as well causes a person to be under develop and or causes some part of the body to over develop while some part to under develop. God had made dietary laws so that the body will develop properly. If the brain isn't working in harmony, it will affect the body development. Have you noticed that the people of past look sort of different from the people of the present time, because it is due to the improvement of their diet. Back then they couldn't get different foods with good healthy benefits, like soy, it help the body to stay youthful, especially it is good for women because it has large amount of estrogen that keep a woman from having male features. Because the less estrogen, which that leave testosterone in their body, and which over time, a woman loses estrogen and that is why their features start looking masculine and start growing hair on their faces and some grown on their chest and back as well.
Caveman, the clue is the word MAN, and CAVE, its a MAN who lives in a Cave, all these reconstructions, yes face is acurate, but then they go and cover the face in hair and give them ape like complexion etc, why do they assume this? IN order to re-inforce the idea of evolution, well more to fact they beleive these people were ape like, so thats how they picture them.
In fact I think they would look no different from you and I today, except they would be living in a cave. It would not surprise me if they spoke with a proper language and did civilized things and had education.
I saw a documentry once which was looking at the so called hoaxes of skulls and so on. They had one expert from some hospital who studied human skull all his life, said that all the so called caveman skulls found were strange shape, but the same shapes can be found on humans today.
Another fact from another expert, said that human skulls are always changing, the forhead slopes , chin thickens and protrudes etc, the expert said that some of the skulls would be how we would look if we lived for several hundred years, well guess what they did pre-flood! so these skulls could be pre-flood humans .
In fact I think they would look no different from you and I today, except they would be living in a cave. It would not surprise me if they spoke with a proper language and did civilized things and had education.
I saw a documentry once which was looking at the so called hoaxes of skulls and so on. They had one expert from some hospital who studied human skull all his life, said that all the so called caveman skulls found were strange shape, but the same shapes can be found on humans today.
Another fact from another expert, said that human skulls are always changing, the forhead slopes , chin thickens and protrudes etc, the expert said that some of the skulls would be how we would look if we lived for several hundred years, well guess what they did pre-flood! so these skulls could be pre-flood humans .
I have thought about the tectonic (spelling?) plates playing a role in dating - maybe you can help shed some light on this for me.
How long does it take for a plate to go through a cycle? We know that crust is being destroyed on one side and created on the other (I know that it is a little more complicated than that) My point is are scientists dating items that are in a newer part of the plate(s)? Whether one believes in old earth or young earth, we can (for reasons of research) assume that, at least some, plates have had enough time to be totally "reborn".
Are we dating items to be older than they could be according to the age of the section of plate that they are in?
How long does it take for a plate to go through a cycle? We know that crust is being destroyed on one side and created on the other (I know that it is a little more complicated than that) My point is are scientists dating items that are in a newer part of the plate(s)? Whether one believes in old earth or young earth, we can (for reasons of research) assume that, at least some, plates have had enough time to be totally "reborn".
Are we dating items to be older than they could be according to the age of the section of plate that they are in?
Decay rates of isotopes do change. That's been the main problem, "daughter" isotopes not behaving like "parent" isotopes. Because the rate of decay changes for several reasons, there is no consistency in dating source materials.
it is my opinion that the shorter lifespans of people after the flood was due to the disastrous effects of sin before the flood, then a continuation of sin afterwards. The flood didn't wash away the curse of sin, that is, death. Death can only amplify to produce earlier death that results in eternal death. Life in Christ can magnify in eternal as well as temporal terms upon meeting God's conditions. Man traded the ideal living conditions that existed before the flood off for the temporary rewards of sin. The sum of that collective decision has diluted potential benefits in this flesh life even for the elect of God. All that will be restored when Jesus returns to reign a thousand years.
it is my opinion that the shorter lifespans of people after the flood was due to the disastrous effects of sin before the flood, then a continuation of sin afterwards. The flood didn't wash away the curse of sin, that is, death. Death can only amplify to produce earlier death that results in eternal death. Life in Christ can magnify in eternal as well as temporal terms upon meeting God's conditions. Man traded the ideal living conditions that existed before the flood off for the temporary rewards of sin. The sum of that collective decision has diluted potential benefits in this flesh life even for the elect of God. All that will be restored when Jesus returns to reign a thousand years.