Cavemen?

[4enlightment]

I often daydreamed of living in a cave. Whenever times got really rough and I was struggling with family or work, I thought running away to go live in a cave with just a few sticks of furniture and a kitty cat sounded quite nice. There was only one thing that stopped me: snakes! \/ EEEK!

Seriously though, I love studying about quantum physics, astronomy, geography, plate tectonics, DNA, and everything that God created with His Word. It's a privilege to have a minute understanding of the miraculous power of our Creator. But as for mankind attempting to grasp the every how & when & why of God's handiwork, I laugh. Every single thing we think we have discovered winds up getting debunked by the next thing. Or else we see a fraction of an anti-quark of some minute idea and we proclaim, "Voilà! Now we know." But we don't know. Everything is a theory. We don't understand gravity, we can't measure time because it really doesn't exist, space-time is relative, are we expanding or contracting, how can space be infinite, etc., etc. We find a piece of a bone and claim the whole of creation began with it. I laugh with God because it's absurd. We don't know and we never will till we stand beside Him and say, "Oh wow Lord, that's cool. It makes sense now."

The most important thing to remember is that you can't unite man's intellect with God's spirituality. In Romans 8:7 it is written:
The mind governed by the flesh (carnal, man's intellect) is hostile to God, because it does not submit itself to God's law, for it is unable (impossible) to do so.

So I just enjoy being amazed and thrilled and flabbergasted at the wonderful works of the Lord while understanding that I will never grasp it completely until I'm with Him face to face.

There is people that are living in cave in Spain; I guess that the economy is doing very badly over there. Here's some photos of the conditions that they are living in of those poor lowly wretch, I guess we all should send money over to help their economy to grow.

Caves in Spain - Renovating & Living in a Spanish Cave

 

[VioletReigns]

Wowzers, 4enlightenment! I'm droolin'......

 

[Straightshot]

The fact is that all men are cavemen .... past and present

All men are Neanderthals ..... dead men walking

.... until they seek the truth and find it

The monkey bones ..... are monkey bones

 

[Canfield]

all this may be comfortable for ,them certainly in this life everybody don't need the same thing, same ride ,house,they all need what will keep them happy.

 

[Cycel]

The Apostle John was there at the cross with Mary, the mother of Jesus.

He might well have been, and I am sure she was, but we have no first person accounts from either. The Gospel of John was not written by the apostle of Jesus.

John also visited the empty tomb of Jesus Christ on Easter morning.

He may have, but again we have no first person account from him.

John later wrote the Gospel of John, three epistles and the Book of Revelation where He shares his testimony of what he saw and experienced.

The Gospel of John was written in Greek by an anonymous author....[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP]


The gospel identifies its author as "the disciple whom Jesus loved." Although the text does not name this disciple, by the beginning of the 2nd century, a tradition had begun to form which identified him with John the Apostle, one of the Twelve (Jesus' innermost circle). Although some notable New Testament scholars affirm traditional Johannine scholarship,[SUP][20][/SUP][SUP][21][/SUP] the majority do not believe that John or one of the Apostles wrote it,[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP][SUP][27][/SUP] and trace it instead to a "Johannine community" which traced its traditions to John; the gospel itself shows signs of having been composed in three "layers", reaching its final form about 90–100 AD.[SUP][28][/SUP][SUP][29][/SUP]

I don't believe the apostle John was the author of this Gospel. You and I will disagree on this, but as my son Fingy says, shouldn't this Gospel have been written in Hebrew or Aramaic if indeed it was written by the apostle John? Why was it written in Greek? Also, it is written in the third person. Why this: 'Just then his disciples returned...' and not this: 'Just then we returned....' Or for example, John 16:29 says, 'Then Jesus' disciples said....' Shouldn't it have said, 'Then we said....' It is written in the third person through out. Where does the author ever say, 'Jesus and I ...' or 'Jesus looked at me and said...', 'I walked with Jesus to ....' See the problem Nl? And Revelation's claim is even worse. See Wikipedia.

 

[oldthennew]

layers?, circles, scholars,

cycle, what you are missing is 'faith'.
those of us who have been blessed with this mystery from our Father, and yes, some before others,
is what makes us what to live and breathe His breath of Life and Love.
I have no doubt that one day you and yours also will be honored with this most precious gift.

 

[Cycel]

I often daydreamed of living in a cave.

I want to live in Hobbiton in a Hobbit hole, with electricity of course.

 

[Cycel]

layers?, circles, scholars,

cycle, what you are missing is 'faith'.
those of us who have been blessed with this mystery from our Father, and yes, some before others,
is what makes us what to live and breathe His breath of Life and Love.
I have no doubt that one day you and yours also will be honored with this most precious gift.

So long as I don't have to give up on Reason and science.

 

[Straightshot]

"You are off the mark, but I don't think you are aware of it"


Can you prove this thing you think Cycel

No .... you cannot

And this is the controversy

The Genesis account of creation is either right, or wrong

Reality says "right"

Here is just one reason [Genesis 3] .... this is truth whether you believe or not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ


Are you just dust in the wind ..... or is there something else in your composition?

There is something else .... but you refuse to see

Think about it

 

[JackH]

The Genesis account of creation is either right, or wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

Think about it

I have been clicking your link for 10 minutes and I can't get it to work.

So I been thinking about it.

ABC says Neanderthals ate meat 175,000 years ago according to this article:

Toothless Neanderthal Got Help From Friends - ABC News

ICR and YECs in these forums say the world came into existence 6,000 years ago and nobody, not even T. rex, ate meat before the Fall.

I am so confused.

Who should I believe?

 

[Brainfreeze]

I am so confused.

Who should I believe?

God ... and His Word.

 

[JackH]

God ... and His Word.

Could you please post a Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video like you usually do?

I mean, you did say he explains it well.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Could you please post a Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) video like you usually do?

I mean, you did say he explains it well.

I thought this thread was about cavemen ? Ahhh whatever, we can lead someone to truth " Gods Word ", can't make them accept it though.

 

[JackH]

I thought this thread was about cavemen ? Ahhh whatever, we can lead someone to truth " Gods Word ", can't make them accept it though.

Dr. Dino has plenty of videos about caveman.

He says Neanderthals are deformed humans, and those bones are less than 6,000 years old.

But then he said convicts are sub-human.

But he changed his mind once he became a convict.

 

[Dr_GS_Hurd]

Why have none of the many experts on humans that posted here shown us the deciding line between human and non-human?



Just let me know.

 

[Kaycie]

The first man (Adam), I don't know if he looked like a cave man, I doubt he was hunched over cause he walked with God. He was intelligent- he talked with God, he named the animals, had a relationship with Eve, he raised children, and farmed- not your typical caveman.

 

[Brainfreeze]

There's a very abrupt ... Difference between L and M... It looks like they all have the same " designer " though. I see no evolving, they look like mixed up bones. Out of all the bones in the world, I'm sure you guys can paint a pretty picture then this... Dr.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Did F and H get in to a fight ? Looks like G was pretty sharp in keeping his teeth ? Just saying...

 

[nl]

He might well have been, and I am sure she was, but we have no first person accounts from either. The Gospel of John was not written by the apostle of Jesus.


He may have, but again we have no first person account from him.





I don't believe the apostle John was the author of this Gospel. You and I will disagree on this, but as my son Fingy says, shouldn't this Gospel have been written in Hebrew or Aramaic if indeed it was written by the apostle John? Why was it written in Greek? Also, it is written in the third person. Why this: 'Just then his disciples returned...' and not this: 'Just then we returned....' Or for example, John 16:29 says, 'Then Jesus' disciples said....' Shouldn't it have said, 'Then we said....' It is written in the third person through out. Where does the author ever say, 'Jesus and I ...' or 'Jesus looked at me and said...', 'I walked with Jesus to ....' See the problem Nl? And Revelation's claim is even worse. See Wikipedia.

Estimation has been that John used the third person because he was being humble. The gospel record has not John but Jesus as its subject.

It seems to me that you should doubt your critics more but your faith in them seems rather strong. I shall need to study more from the critics to keep up with you.

The Apostle John ministered in Ephesus in Asia Minor or modern Turkey. The distance to Athens Greece from there is only around 318 kilometers. The distance from Ephesus to Jerusalem is 1016 kilometers.

The roots of Christianity go back to Jesus Christ and then earlier to Moses, Abraham and Creation.

 

[Timeline]

He might well have been, and I am sure she was, but we have no first person accounts from either. The Gospel of John was not written by the apostle of Jesus.


He may have, but again we have no first person account from him.





I don't believe the apostle John was the author of this Gospel. You and I will disagree on this, but as my son Fingy says, shouldn't this Gospel have been written in Hebrew or Aramaic if indeed it was written by the apostle John? Why was it written in Greek? Also, it is written in the third person. Why this: 'Just then his disciples returned...' and not this: 'Just then we returned....' Or for example, John 16:29 says, 'Then Jesus' disciples said....' Shouldn't it have said, 'Then we said....' It is written in the third person through out. Where does the author ever say, 'Jesus and I ...' or 'Jesus looked at me and said...', 'I walked with Jesus to ....' See the problem Nl? And Revelation's claim is even worse. See Wikipedia.

I am glad to say that we agree on this, but I must point out that whoever wrote John was there and was a disciple - according to the text. So, it seems to be a poor point that the writer says, "Then Jesus' disciples said", because the writer was a disciple. Maybe he was referring specifically to the Apostles. I have often wondered why the writer felt the need to be mysterious. I also wondered why so many people assume that John was the "disciple whom Jesus loved" when, as far as I know, the scriptures never tell us that.