Christ was tempted LIKE as we are, but He never desired or was tempted to do evil.
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God is good. So Christ's choices could only be good because Jesus is God. Christ's thoughts could only be good because Jesus is God. See, you seem to think Christ had a potential choice in doing evil. If Jesus is God, then this is not possible. If Jesus is not God, then it would be possible for him to potentially do evil or sin.
We answered a fool by his folly, as the Word tells us to do. We gave you what is clear, but you have clung to what you made up for yourself.
I'll pray for you, but how can I continue to debate with you on something that is so clear in the Word?
May you find peace with the Word, rather than wage war against it.
I'll pray for you, but how can I continue to debate with you on something that is so clear in the Word?
May you find peace with the Word, rather than wage war against it.
My last post here, for example purposes only...
If I told you Jason, you are god, surely your hungry from walking all this time, turn that rock to bread that you could eat and be full. YOU THINK about it, and your reply be, man can not live on bread alone but the word of god also...
Were you just tempted ? Aren't you hungry, stomach turning in all ? It wouldn't really have been a evil act for you to do so, but the statement that came with the reply gave value to the temptation.
If I told you Jason, you are god, surely your hungry from walking all this time, turn that rock to bread that you could eat and be full. YOU THINK about it, and your reply be, man can not live on bread alone but the word of god also...
Were you just tempted ? Aren't you hungry, stomach turning in all ? It wouldn't really have been a evil act for you to do so, but the statement that came with the reply gave value to the temptation.
In order to be tempted, one must be tempted to sin. If a person does not consider committing a sin, it pretty well invalidates the temptation. Did temptation fall upon Jesus? Yes, clearly Satan tempted Jesus. But was Jesus actually tempted to be unrighteous or commit sin? No, I don't believe so. The temptation is only half of the equation, but if someone has the strength to ignore the Tempter, and if a person refuses to consider the temptation, then how does the temptation materialize? I can tempt my cat to eat a banana, but it doesn't mean my cat was tempted, i.e; Jesus was tempted but didn't fall into temptation.
Jesus told Peter; "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" (Matthew 26:41). He also prayed "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil". So as I mentioned before, although Jesus was tempted in all things (Hebrews 4:15), I don't believe that he ever became a temptee. His spirit overcame all flesh, so whatever this world had to offer, I doubt Jesus considered it because he didn't desired it.. jmo
I agree, only to add, everything is already His anyway... How can you complete temptation, if what your being tempted with is yours already. This doesn't stop the fact that He bared more pain and humility then most will ever know. Jesus had no home, Jesus wasn't respected by most of His own people. He was betrayed by His own, He was dealt a lot of pain, all things we brought on Him, deserving none of it. He endured as a man does...
You are equating the Lord's temptation with other kinds of temptations that does not apply. Surely it would not be wrong for the Son of God to turn stones into bread if He felt like it on Hiw own. Just as it was not wrong that Jesus made it possible for 5,000 to be fed by a small amount of food. It would have been wrong for the Lord to give into Satan's temptation (Proving he was God) under the devil's direction to push him into doing so. God does not play on the devil's terms, but on his own. But being tempted of other sins surely would not be the same thing we are talking about here. Jesus had no carnal desires in his flesh to be tempted to lie, cheat, steal, hate, etc. Jesus was the Holy Son of God who came to take away these types of internal struggles or sins.
Think Cause and Effect.
Think of the core of who Jesus was based on the good works that He did.
In other words, if Jesus only did good, that means at his core, He is good both body, and in His Eternal Spirit.
How can one be Holy and good and yet have the potential to do evil?
Is that the God you serve? A God who actually had to overcome sin? As if something was inside him tempting Him (internally) to do bad things? See, you can't be internally tempted by something without some kind of desire for the thing you are tempted with. Jesus did not even consider turning the stones into bread to be fed in the devil's temptation. Such a possibility did not exist for the Son of God because He is God and cannot think bad thoughts, or consider evil, or lust, or do sin. Jesus is Holy. Jesus did not have to contend with carnal flesh. He had to be clean. Spotless. Blameless so as to clean of our sin and be our substitute.
Think Cause and Effect.
Think of the core of who Jesus was based on the good works that He did.
In other words, if Jesus only did good, that means at his core, He is good both body, and in His Eternal Spirit.
How can one be Holy and good and yet have the potential to do evil?
Is that the God you serve? A God who actually had to overcome sin? As if something was inside him tempting Him (internally) to do bad things? See, you can't be internally tempted by something without some kind of desire for the thing you are tempted with. Jesus did not even consider turning the stones into bread to be fed in the devil's temptation. Such a possibility did not exist for the Son of God because He is God and cannot think bad thoughts, or consider evil, or lust, or do sin. Jesus is Holy. Jesus did not have to contend with carnal flesh. He had to be clean. Spotless. Blameless so as to clean of our sin and be our substitute.
I can say the same for you. However, the difference between us on this topic is that I have brought forth verses backing me up and I didn't attack you. You really didn't do that. Did you go back and seek the Scriptures on this matter for this topic? Or are you just going off what you believe and or what other people believe?