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why did God only make this promise to this nation only? Why did God forget the edomites, the hittites, and all the other nations who were defeated, and lost in the history of their captors to fade away and be nothing.
Your right, the gospel is for them. But that is not the topic of lev 26. it is what they were required to live in peace in the land God gave their fathers.
and you again missed part of that passage.
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
Why is God remembering the land if salvation is what the context is as your claiming?
This is national. Not induvidual. People during the babylonian captivity recieved God. yet they were punished also (see daniel and his friends, and many others)
It has nothing to do with the salvation of an induvidual. It has to do with Gods promise to a nation, or more literally. the fathers of that nation
Your right, the gospel is for them. But that is not the topic of lev 26. it is what they were required to live in peace in the land God gave their fathers.
and you again missed part of that passage.
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
Why is God remembering the land if salvation is what the context is as your claiming?
This is national. Not induvidual. People during the babylonian captivity recieved God. yet they were punished also (see daniel and his friends, and many others)
It has nothing to do with the salvation of an induvidual. It has to do with Gods promise to a nation, or more literally. the fathers of that nation
I believe that the 144,000 are actually Jewish people because at that time the Jews will recognize Jesus as their Savior.
God said He is going to make a full end of all Gentile nations but He will not make a full end of Israel although they will not be wholly unpunished.
God said He is going to gather all nations together to battle against Israel,all the Gentiles that do not love God,and then when they attack Israel God will put them down,and Israel will be the only operating nation in the millennial reign of Christ.
So it would seem at that time that they would be actual physical Jews.
The tribe of Dan was not included but Mannaseh was included,which could be because there is not enough of the tribe of Dan,or because Dan introduced Israel to idolatry.
God said He is going to make a full end of all Gentile nations but He will not make a full end of Israel although they will not be wholly unpunished.
God said He is going to gather all nations together to battle against Israel,all the Gentiles that do not love God,and then when they attack Israel God will put them down,and Israel will be the only operating nation in the millennial reign of Christ.
So it would seem at that time that they would be actual physical Jews.
The tribe of Dan was not included but Mannaseh was included,which could be because there is not enough of the tribe of Dan,or because Dan introduced Israel to idolatry.
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Yes, this is one part of the eternal covenant, but there is another part.
Gen 15: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— 19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”
Nothinng salvic about this promise.
How long did he make this promise?
7 And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
Again, nothing salvic about this promise. so why do people want to make it a salvic promise, or an allegorical promise, when their is nothing to it?
Nice try, but the word can also be viewed in the following manners and CONTEXT dictates it's usage...
1. Amid
2. Occupying an intermediate position between
3. Hence
4, Hence after
5. following
6. Hereafter
7. In sequence
8. Proximity to
9. In association with
ect. So.....like I said, NICE TRY, but NO DICE!
1. Amid
2. Occupying an intermediate position between
3. Hence
4, Hence after
5. following
6. Hereafter
7. In sequence
8. Proximity to
9. In association with
ect. So.....like I said, NICE TRY, but NO DICE!
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just to help:
67.48 μετάg: a marker of a point of time closely associated with a prior point of time—‘after.’ καὶ μετὰ τρεῖς ἡμέρας ἀναστῆναι ‘and to arise after three days’ (that is, ‘on the third day,’ since both the first and the last days of such a set were counted) Mk 8:31; μετὰ ταῦτα ἦλθεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς καὶ οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ εἰς τὴν Ἰουδαίαν γῆν ‘after this, Jesus and his disciples went to the province of Judea’ Jn 3:22. In a number of languages there is no convenient preposition-like word such as ‘after,’ but one can render the expression in Jn 3:22 as ‘these things happened, and then Jesus and his disciples went to the province of Judea.’
Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 634). New York: United Bible Societies.
Well as a pretrib rapture believer my understanding is that the 144,000 are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes who God will raise up to preach the gospel during the tribulation. After the church is raptured this group of Jews is going to look hard at the scriptures and God will open their eyes to the truth of Christ as Messiah.
The 144,000 will go about preaching and seeing souls saved during the tribulation time.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The 144,000 will go about preaching and seeing souls saved during the tribulation time.
For the cause of Christ
Roger