Christ was tempted LIKE as we are, but He never desired or was tempted to do evil.
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It's not called adding, my friend. It's called comparing Scripture with Scripture. Hebrews 7:26 will bring you to the conclusion that it is not possible for Jesus to potentially sin. He was separate from sinners, holy, and undefiled. In light of this verse and many others, we are forced to read Hebrews 2, and Hebrews 4 as talking about external temptation which fits the context. For everyone here is addding their own interpretation or take that Hebrew 2 and Hebrews 4 is talking about both internal and external temptation. So saying I am adding to Scripture is just an ad hominem or false accusation that is simply not true.
No, I don't believe Jesus was tempted internally. I am saying that is what you believe. If Jesus was tempted internally, that implies he struggled with sin on some level (whether it be a little or a lot) - Meaning, you are saying that Jesus was tempted by a wrong desire that was within Him. For you cannot be internally tempted by something unless there is a wrong desire for that thing you are being tempted with. It's basic logic. For if Jesus is God (And He is God), then He does not have the capacity to have darkness within Him. Nor would He have the capacity to sin (Because Jesus is God, Holy, undefiled, and separate from sinners) (Hebrews 7:26).
Our temptations are different than Christ's temptations. See, that is why we need Jesus Christ. If we could have resisted temptation on our own merits, then there would be no need for a Savior. We could have just obeyed the Law and we would have been good to go. But all have sinned and have come short of the glory of God. Jesus did not struggle with sin or temptation. For Jesus is God. That is why the Lord came. To help us overcome sin and temptation that has no effect on Him. Only God can be our Savior. And Jesus is God.
James says it's a progression. First it is lust, then sin, and then death.
But Jesus says, that if you lust (have wrong desire) towards a woman then it is committing adultery in your heart.
John says if you hate your brother, you are a murderer; And no murderer has eternal life abiding in them.
So if one's thoughts are bad, then they are not pure and holy. Jesus could not consider in doing evil because Jesus is God who is Holy, separate from sinners and undefiled (Hebrews 7:26). If Jesus had the potential to sin, then that means he who not be separate from sinners. It would mean he was not holy. It would mean he was not undefiled. That is, if you believe He could be tempted internally.
No. The source of purity is Jesus Christ because He is the Light, the Life, the Way, and the Truth. Jesus does the good work within a person once they repent of their sins and accept Him as their Savior.
You make it sound like Jesus was a mere man. He was not. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh. Jesus who is the Holy Son of God obeyed the Father because He is one with the Father. They are are both God and connected as one God within the Godhead. For the fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Christ bodily.
I have. But I don't study the Scriptures from false perspectives or theologies. Why don't you show me the passages you believe proves your case.
The glory that Jesus once shared with God the Father is mentioned in John 17. This was before the world began that Christ shared this glory with the Father. This is talking about Christ's rule in Heaven and the glory thereof. This is not talking about how He cast off His moral code as God so that He could have the potential to sin (But chose not to). The Scriptures do not speak about Christ having an internal struggle with sin.
We praise Christ because He was God Almighty in the flesh who could not fail. Jesus is not just some reallly good guy who inspires us. There was no chance Jesus could have ever failed. Jesus is God. Who lives in our hearts and lives. For the fact that Jesus is God is the reason we are saved. No man alone could do what Jesus did. Jesus was not just a man alone. Jesus was the God Man who deserves all the praise, glory, honor, and power. For Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. For Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh. We praise Christ because He is God our Savior who died in our place as a man. God. That is who Jesus is. As much as you would like to take a scapel and cut out the goodness of God in Christ, the more it will be proclaimed from the roof tops. Jesus is God! Worship Him! For He is worthy of all praise, glory, honor, and power!
But Jesus says, that if you lust (have wrong desire) towards a woman then it is committing adultery in your heart.
John says if you hate your brother, you are a murderer; And no murderer has eternal life abiding in them.
So if one's thoughts are bad, then they are not pure and holy. Jesus could not consider in doing evil because Jesus is God who is Holy, separate from sinners and undefiled (Hebrews 7:26). If Jesus had the potential to sin, then that means he who not be separate from sinners. It would mean he was not holy. It would mean he was not undefiled. That is, if you believe He could be tempted internally.
No. The source of purity is Jesus Christ because He is the Light, the Life, the Way, and the Truth. Jesus does the good work within a person once they repent of their sins and accept Him as their Savior.
You make it sound like Jesus was a mere man. He was not. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh. Jesus who is the Holy Son of God obeyed the Father because He is one with the Father. They are are both God and connected as one God within the Godhead. For the fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Christ bodily.
I have. But I don't study the Scriptures from false perspectives or theologies. Why don't you show me the passages you believe proves your case.
The glory that Jesus once shared with God the Father is mentioned in John 17. This was before the world began that Christ shared this glory with the Father. This is talking about Christ's rule in Heaven and the glory thereof. This is not talking about how He cast off His moral code as God so that He could have the potential to sin (But chose not to). The Scriptures do not speak about Christ having an internal struggle with sin.
We praise Christ because He was God Almighty in the flesh who could not fail. Jesus is not just some reallly good guy who inspires us. There was no chance Jesus could have ever failed. Jesus is God. Who lives in our hearts and lives. For the fact that Jesus is God is the reason we are saved. No man alone could do what Jesus did. Jesus was not just a man alone. Jesus was the God Man who deserves all the praise, glory, honor, and power. For Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. For Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh. We praise Christ because He is God our Savior who died in our place as a man. God. That is who Jesus is. As much as you would like to take a scapel and cut out the goodness of God in Christ, the more it will be proclaimed from the roof tops. Jesus is God! Worship Him! For He is worthy of all praise, glory, honor, and power!
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Uh, Jesus disobeying God? Jesus IS God. He is one with the Father. And God cannot disagree within Himself. That would imply that there was a contradiction or problem with God. There are no problems in the Godhead. God is perfect and Holy and there is no potential for the Son of God to sin. You are ignoring Hebrews 7:26 and are holding onto what you have been taught by others because the idea is comfortable to you.
Personally, it makes me sick to my stomach at the idea that God (Christ) in any way could potentially do evil or sin. You might be comfortable with that idea, but it is neither Scriptural (See Hebrews 7:26 again) and neither is morally right in regards to the goodness of God (Who is Jesus by the way).
Personally, it makes me sick to my stomach at the idea that God (Christ) in any way could potentially do evil or sin. You might be comfortable with that idea, but it is neither Scriptural (See Hebrews 7:26 again) and neither is morally right in regards to the goodness of God (Who is Jesus by the way).
These statements "I have the power", "I lay it down of myself", etc. were not statements of his humanity, but they are statements made that proves He was God Almighty in the flesh. A man who struggles with sin would never have the certainty of his mission to say these kind of things. Jesus is God and He claimed, "I HAVE POWER." Meaning, Jesus has the power as God. Jesus has the power to lay down His own life. A mere man would not make these kinds of claims; Neither could a limited God who could potentially sin make these claims either. Yes, Jesus was not a robot. Nor was Jesus like sinners (who have free will), either. For Hebrews 7:26 says He was separate from sinners and holy, and undefiled. Jesus was not a robot. Nor was just like some ordinary sinful man either. Jesus is God; And He had the power!
Gnostics believe that Jesus Christ did not have a real physical flesh and blood body. I don't believe that.
I believe Jesus Christ was 100% man. For Jesus Christ had a real physical flesh and blood body. His physical body was necessary in order to take on our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane. Christ then paid for our sins upon the cross and died as punishment for sin. Christ's blood washes away our sins. Christ then defeated the punishment of sin and death with a real physical resurrection. In fact, Jesus Christ is still physical (with a real flesh and blood body) in Heaven right now! For Revelation essentially says Christ is forever alive so as to make intercession for us.
However, the Scriptures do not mention anything about how Christ had a human soul or human spirit in addition to His eternal divine soul and spirit as the Word (Which was made flesh). Such a belief would be in contradiction of other verses. Neither does Scripture say that there was something dark in Christ that would give him to potential to make dark choices, either. Jesus is God; And God cannot sin or even think about potentially sinning.
I believe Jesus Christ was 100% man. For Jesus Christ had a real physical flesh and blood body. His physical body was necessary in order to take on our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane. Christ then paid for our sins upon the cross and died as punishment for sin. Christ's blood washes away our sins. Christ then defeated the punishment of sin and death with a real physical resurrection. In fact, Jesus Christ is still physical (with a real flesh and blood body) in Heaven right now! For Revelation essentially says Christ is forever alive so as to make intercession for us.
However, the Scriptures do not mention anything about how Christ had a human soul or human spirit in addition to His eternal divine soul and spirit as the Word (Which was made flesh). Such a belief would be in contradiction of other verses. Neither does Scripture say that there was something dark in Christ that would give him to potential to make dark choices, either. Jesus is God; And God cannot sin or even think about potentially sinning.
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This is more fluff and a rejection of truth...and the bolded is the most ignorant comment I have ever read and or seen by someone who claims to know God as ALL TEMPTATION come FROM WITHIN....
2 scriptures in CONTEXT which states or teaches VERBATIM that there is an internal and external temptation!
More man made heresy and makes me think of the boot scrapings that comes off my boots when I have been where the cows walk!
Really? Are you being serious? So you believe Jesus was not good? Jesus calls Himself the "Good Shepherd." So that throws that false and evil idea right out the window, my friend.
Besides, Jesus is God. So that means He is good. There is no debate about that fact. It is a truth of Scripture.
Besides, Jesus is God. So that means He is good. There is no debate about that fact. It is a truth of Scripture.
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Honestly, if folks here believe Jesus has the potential to do evil, I do not think we worship the same God or Christ which is clearly described in the Scriptures. God (Christ) is good. He has no potential for evil in Him (To be internally tempted). For there is no darkness in God (1 John 1:5); And Jesus is holy, undefiled, and separate from sinners (Hebrews 7:26).