Christ was tempted LIKE as we are, but He never desired or was tempted to do evil.
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You just called God a liar in his word......IN ALL POINTS LIKE AS WE ARE TEMPTED...study it from the Greek and you will see that you are lying about God and God's word....oh that's right no guts to admit error and come on line with the truth...here I will help you....
Translation from Greek-->For we have a high priest not being able to suffer with the weakness of us, having been tempted but in ALL RESPECTS according to our likeness apart from sin.
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses , but one who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet with out sin.
For we don not have a high priest who is not able to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way that we are tempted, yet was without sin.
I have already quoted King Jim probably 8 times and the truth is that you are a deceiver and preaching heresy Jason...good luck being found under the banner of a false teacher...I suggest Jude as it is going to be hot for false teachers to whom is reserved the mists of darkness for ever!
Translation from Greek-->For we have a high priest not being able to suffer with the weakness of us, having been tempted but in ALL RESPECTS according to our likeness apart from sin.
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses , but one who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet with out sin.
For we don not have a high priest who is not able to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way that we are tempted, yet was without sin.
I have already quoted King Jim probably 8 times and the truth is that you are a deceiver and preaching heresy Jason...good luck being found under the banner of a false teacher...I suggest Jude as it is going to be hot for false teachers to whom is reserved the mists of darkness for ever!
Sooooo.... you are just gonna like ignore the statment that Jesus said He was the "GOOD Shepherd" then?
I mean, if you believe Jesus is not good, then why are you following Him?
I mean, such a claim that Jesus is not good is a statement of insanity. Surely, you must know that is not what Jesus meant, right?
I mean, if you believe Jesus is not good, then why are you following Him?
I mean, such a claim that Jesus is not good is a statement of insanity. Surely, you must know that is not what Jesus meant, right?
As for the poster who keeps repeating Hebrews 4, and Hebrews 2: I have already explained these passages numerous times already within this thread. However, to lay this argument to rest, I will read thru these passages again, do some heavy research, pray, compare Scripture with Scripture, and strive to offer a more detailed break down of what it is saying. This will take some time and I will comment on Hebrews on these points in another thread.
Anyways, may the Lord's love and peace be unto you all.
And may God bless you.
Anyways, may the Lord's love and peace be unto you all.
And may God bless you.
K
Notice the context of the scripture I gave.
The person who came running to Him thought of Him as just a teacher, not the Son of God. We know this because he called Jesus good teacher. Then after Jesus responded why do you call me good, for only God is good. If you look at the following verse the person then drops the good part and just calls Him teacher.
Nobody is good in the flesh form, that was Jesus point. Even He pleaded with the Father to take away the burden from Him to be crucified for our sins.
Luke 22:42
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Yeah good luck with that bro......It has been posted and broken down for you by what 20 plus people in this thread and you still reject it.......I pray God opens your eyes as to deny the temptation of Christ in the same manner as we have been tempted denies His ability to accurately know our struggles....and calls God and the word of God a liar and lies!
While you are at it...bring two sets of verses in context that prove internal and external temptations which state verbatim such theologies...!
While you are at it...bring two sets of verses in context that prove internal and external temptations which state verbatim such theologies...!
Jesus is still physical in Heaven (Right Now) Making Intercession For us!!!
Hebrews 7:25 - "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."
Now, some folk have said that it is impossible for Christ to be physical in Heaven right now because the Scriptures say that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 15:50 - "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
Now in defense of Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Corinthians 15:50 others have wrongfully suggested that we have glorified physical / spiritual bodies in Heaven.
However, such a notion does not make any sense because this is not what 1 Corinthians chapter 15 teaches. For the chapter makes a constant parallel between that which is physical and that which is spiritual; And Jesus himself returned and said He had flesh and bones as they did and He was not a spirit or ghost (Luke 24:39).
And others have suggested that Jesus had no blood and only flesh and bones when He ascended to Heaven. Yet that does not work because Jesus enters the Holy place by his blood and obtains eternal redemption for us.
Hebrews 9:12 - "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."
So if flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God then how does Jesus live forever to make intercession for us?
The answer can be found in the 3rd chapter of John.
John 3:13 - "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
In other words, this passage is telling us above that Jesus (i.e. the Son of Man who came down from Heaven) is the exception to the rule of being flesh and blood inheriting the Kingdom of God in 1 Corinthians chapter 15.
So Jesus is the only man who ascends up into Heaven physically. Everyone else who has ascended or will ascend into Heaven will go from being a physical person to a spirit being. For Enoch and Elijah were translated into spirit when they entered up into Heaven. Jesus is the only man (i.e. flesh and blood person) in Heaven. For He is making intercession for us!!!
Hebrews 7:25 - "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."
Now, some folk have said that it is impossible for Christ to be physical in Heaven right now because the Scriptures say that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 15:50 - "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
Now in defense of Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Corinthians 15:50 others have wrongfully suggested that we have glorified physical / spiritual bodies in Heaven.
However, such a notion does not make any sense because this is not what 1 Corinthians chapter 15 teaches. For the chapter makes a constant parallel between that which is physical and that which is spiritual; And Jesus himself returned and said He had flesh and bones as they did and He was not a spirit or ghost (Luke 24:39).
And others have suggested that Jesus had no blood and only flesh and bones when He ascended to Heaven. Yet that does not work because Jesus enters the Holy place by his blood and obtains eternal redemption for us.
Hebrews 9:12 - "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."
So if flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God then how does Jesus live forever to make intercession for us?
The answer can be found in the 3rd chapter of John.
John 3:13 - "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
In other words, this passage is telling us above that Jesus (i.e. the Son of Man who came down from Heaven) is the exception to the rule of being flesh and blood inheriting the Kingdom of God in 1 Corinthians chapter 15.
So Jesus is the only man who ascends up into Heaven physically. Everyone else who has ascended or will ascend into Heaven will go from being a physical person to a spirit being. For Enoch and Elijah were translated into spirit when they entered up into Heaven. Jesus is the only man (i.e. flesh and blood person) in Heaven. For He is making intercession for us!!!
Here is a link to what earlier believers opposed as heresy...one being what you teach about the temptation of Jesus....
CHRISTOLOGICAL HERESIES
CHRISTOLOGICAL HERESIES
Remember when we were talking about if we could stop time, it would take us years on years to do what God does in a day ?
We just can't explain how this happens, if we tell this to a atheist, they laugh.. We know it's truth though.
It's the same with trying to understand Jesus in the flesh, and how He's able to do what He does.. We won't be able to understand everything, why there's humbleness there, why He is God, who is a all knowing God. The scriptures say He felt, just like I feel, He was tempted " asked " just as I was asked, except I failed a lot, but He has a soul Jason, and His Spirit, He is..
We just can't explain how this happens, if we tell this to a atheist, they laugh.. We know it's truth though.
It's the same with trying to understand Jesus in the flesh, and how He's able to do what He does.. We won't be able to understand everything, why there's humbleness there, why He is God, who is a all knowing God. The scriptures say He felt, just like I feel, He was tempted " asked " just as I was asked, except I failed a lot, but He has a soul Jason, and His Spirit, He is..
Remember, Jesus was said to have blasphemed for making claims He was God. The religious leaders of his day didn't like truth and it is no different today. For there is nothing new under the sun. In fact, Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and few be there that find it. Saying that God (Christ) can potentially do evil is wrong and you know it. I don''t care what some group of religious men say today or in the past. Truth is truth (According to God's Word). And no, there are other believers who believe as I do on this issue. They believe Jesus is good and not evil. In fact, it doesn't even make any sense that we are even debating this fact. To say that God can potentially do evil is what Isaiah 5:20 warns you not to do (i.e. In calling that which is good as evil). For people here cannot even say Jesus is good. That is sick and that is wrong; And that is spiritual darkness at work.
I never once said he could do wrong, sinned or had sin....quit LYING and attributing things to me I never said nor implied...
Saying he was not tempted like we are tempted and or trying to divide temptation into internal and external is the lie, heretical and false dude...so keep preaching heresy and see who stands before God as a lying false teacher that twists the word dude!
Saying he was not tempted like we are tempted and or trying to divide temptation into internal and external is the lie, heretical and false dude...so keep preaching heresy and see who stands before God as a lying false teacher that twists the word dude!
Also, if this verse does not do it for you, there is another verse that suggests that Jesus Christ lives on forever in a physical body.
Revelation 21:22
"And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."
In other words, when the New City of Jerusalem comes down from out of Heaven and lands on the Eternal New Earth, there will be no Traditional Temple in it, but the Lord God Almighty and (who is also known) as the Lamb will be the Temple thereof.
We know this Temple is in reference to Christ's body. For Jesus said so himself.
John 2:19
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
And the context (That lets us know that Jesus was referring to his body as the Temple).
John 2:20-21
"Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]But he spake of the temple of his body"
Revelation 21:22
"And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."
In other words, when the New City of Jerusalem comes down from out of Heaven and lands on the Eternal New Earth, there will be no Traditional Temple in it, but the Lord God Almighty and (who is also known) as the Lamb will be the Temple thereof.
We know this Temple is in reference to Christ's body. For Jesus said so himself.
John 2:19
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
And the context (That lets us know that Jesus was referring to his body as the Temple).
John 2:20-21
"Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]But he spake of the temple of his body"