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Jason0047 said:
Actually, It's not complex to understand the Godhead or the Trinity if one studies the subject. It makes perfect sense to me.
Brainfreeze said:
Yes Jason, I believe it is,
We can discuss the Trinity at another time (of course), my friend. As for the Incarnation...
Brainfreeze said:
I believe He come in the flesh, added to God.. It added a human experience, your saying it didn't. Your saying Mary was Just a vessel, and He was just in a vessel,
Yes. The Eternal Word or Spirit of Christ entered the empty shell of a human body in the form of a baby thru Mary and by the power of the Holy Ghost.
Brainfreeze said:
your saying He had no soul,
There was no need for a human soul. The Eternal Word who is God and who is Spirit already has a soul (Which is a being's mind, will, and emotions). Philippians 2:6-9 said He humbled himself to be like a man; This is in reference to how Christ suppressed (not eliminated) His divine attribute of Omniscience (i.e. To know all things) and how He gave up His glory in ruling with the Father.
Brainfreeze said:
how did He weep ? How did He get angry at the money changers, if no soul ?
As I mentioned previously, the Scriptures mention how God has a soul in several places. Granted, God's soul is eternal and uncreated, but God who is Spirit has a mind, will, and emotions. For God as Spirit has shown both sorrow and anger in God's Word before. As for Christ shedding actual tears, this a product or manifestation of the Son of God's sorrow in being in the vessel of a human body. For our soul can show forth emotion in our physical body just as Christ who has an Eternal soul is able to do the same.
Brainfreeze said:
He was the same, and is the same, would mean, He didn't live a human life, your saying we don't affect God, and it is Gods son, their different, John 3:16
As I said before, the Son of God existed as Spirit and was known as the Son of God before His incarnation. Read Daniel chapter 3 in the KJV.
As for your reference that we as humans do not effect God: Well, it depends on how you define, "How we effect God." If you mean you mean that God can feel love, sorrow, anger, happiness, etc. over what we do, then... yes (most definitely). However, if you mean that we can tempt God (Whether it be God the Father or the Son of God), then the answer would be a... no. For God cannot be strong armed into our way of thinking or persuaded to do any bad or evil. For sin runs contrary to the very nature of who God is.
As for your reference of Jesus not living a human life: Again, it depends on how you define a human life. If you mean Christ took on a real physical body of a man as a vessel (Where the Son experienced fatigue, hunger, pain, and death thru a physical body) and He suppressed His divine attribute in having all knowledge, then... yes (That would be true). However, if you mean God took on a newly created human soul or another person's human soul, then... no. For the soul within the body or temple of Jesus was the Word's soul that is eternal and or uncreated.
Jason0047 said:
God's Word says we are to study to show ourselves approved unto God. God's Word says the Spirit will guide us into all truth. This would obviously be with God's Word.
Brainfreeze said:
none of this is explained in scripture, so to say, we must show ourselves approved, at this instant, ...I'm sorry but you won't be saving any lives with this...
2 Timothy 2:15 in the KJV says to study to show yourself approved unto God. So yes. That would be in the Word of God. Scripture also states the Spirit will guide a person into all truth. Scripture says that "Thy Word is truth."
If you are referring to how Christ came directly in the flesh with no mention of entering a human created soul: Well, I already gave you several Scriptural references for that. If you need me to repeat them, I would be more than happy to do so, my friend. However, I want you to stop and think for a moment. When was it ever acceptable to God to worship a created soul or created spirit? See, Jesus accepted worsbip. If Jesus was an amalgam or mix of a new created soul or spirit, then people would not be worshipping the same God the Israelites had worshipped. Jesus' body was just a Temple or shell.
Jason0047 said:
So you don't believe there is such a real concept as external temptaton that exists within the real world today? How so? Do you need me to give you more examples?
Brainfreeze said:
There is sin and not sin... There is test and no test... Simple... This internal stuff is bogus.. No scripture, sorry.
Please see my recent reply to Violet. I think I give a pretty good explanation on this point.
Anyways, may God bless you.
And Happy Thanksgiving.