"The Tribulation is NOT God's Wrath, it is SATAN'S wrath."
Really?
Explain this [Revelation 6:12-17; 17:16-18]
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Post tribulation thinking is flawed for many reasons and I can show them all [I may start a thread for the purpose] { "Please do - it should be interesting..." }
But the point is that your view may be detrimental to you .... do you know why? { "Do you understand that the pre-trib rapture, double-coming-of-Christ view is detrimental to the Christian who believes it? -- do you know why?" }
Revelation 6:
[SUP]12[/SUP] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; [SUP]13[/SUP] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. [SUP]14[/SUP] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. [SUP]15[/SUP] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; [SUP]16[/SUP] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: [SUP]17[/SUP] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
This is pre-'Wrath of God', and is post-tribulation. What makes you think it is pre-tribulation?
( It is not talking about the Tribulation Period itself. )
Revelation 17:
[SUP]16[/SUP] And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. [SUP]17[/SUP] For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. [SUP]18[/SUP] And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
This is not talking about the Wrath of God.
I find that most Christians seem to not understand the difference between the Tribulation Period and the Wrath of God. They seem to think that any and all "trouble-type prophetic-imagery" in Revelation is
both 'Tribulation Period'
and 'Wrath of God'; however, this is simply not true. A careful study of the scriptures will yield a different conclusion.
It seems that most Christians have been taught erroneous doctrine concerning the End Times Scenario. And, it seems that -
built into the "learning" of that erroneous doctrine - is a kind of
pride that "resists at all costs" looking deeper into the scriptures to find the real truth about the End Times Scenario. (
This is truly sad. )
I believe that there is a space of time ( which is
at least 3.5 years in length ) between the
end of the Tribulation Period and the return of Christ, and that it is during this time that [ the first six of ] the 'Trumpet' events ( Revelation 8:7 - 9:21 ) occur. ( Please see the 'Order of Events' link in my signature. )
I also believe that, by the
end of the Tribulation Period,
most Christians on the earth will have been beheaded for not worshiping the beast.
( Technically, it will not be for "not taking the mark of the beast";
most Christians will be killed [ first ] for not worshiping the beast -
then, all that remain will have to accept the mark. I believe that a close examination of the scriptures bears this out. According to my reading / understanding of Revelation 13:15-16, most Christians will not have to worry about having to face "taking the mark" because they will be killed for not worshiping the beast before the mark is forced onto the population.
And, it would actually fit the mentality of those who wish to administer the mark onto the population of the earth -- there would be a greater cost and effort to "mark" the whole population - and then kill a great number of them. I am thinking that they would probably want to
exterminate those who will not "play along" - i.e., worship the beast - before administering the mark... )
I did not arrive at this conclusion because it was what I wanted or thought the End Times Scenario should be.
Until a person decides that they are truly more interested in knowing the actual truth concerning the End Times Scenario - and are willing to "do the hard work" to arrive at that truth - they will be "stuck" in what they were taught...
Until a person is able to "suspend"
all that they have been taught - and consider the scriptures - with the right 'attitude' towards the knowledge of the truth - they will not attain unto what the scriptures actually say about the End Time Scenario.
Folks on CC cannot even come to any agreement with what the word 'rapture' actually means...
If we cannot even accomplish this --- the rest is moot...