Do you believe Benny Hinn to be a false Prophet?

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Jimbone

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Somewhere Paul; mentions that others were preaching about Jesus... even though they were not part of the 'in crowd". In short, Paul said, "Big deal!" As long as Jesus is preached... whatever their motive might be... don't worry about it."

So, maybe we don't agree with the messenger... as long as they preach the gospel... allow God to straighten them out. Now, I am not a "fan" of Benny Hinn... or any other TV preacher... but, somehow I can't see their heart... but, God can.
That is true, I don't see a point in "trash talking" anyone, but "as long as they preach the gospel"? I have heard Benny preach some truth here and there, but doesn't 1 Cor 6 come into play? “Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?”
If he even teaches a few things wrong people should know, and they would know if they ever picked up their bible and read it. I don’t mean that in a condescending way, before I was saved and regenerated by the Holy Spirit (about 16 months ago) I never did either. He’s lead me to take responsibility and test every teaching by the Word, if it lines up great accept it, if it does not throw it out fast. My point is I agree he throws truth in here and there, but teaches a lot that is false, that being said “bashing” him won’t help anything however we are called to expose false teaching are we not?
 
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Anonimous

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That is true, I don't see a point in "trash talking" anyone, but "as long as they preach the gospel"? I have heard Benny preach some truth here and there, but doesn't 1 Cor 6 come into play? “Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?”
If he even teaches a few things wrong people should know, and they would know if they ever picked up their bible and read it. I don’t mean that in a condescending way, before I was saved and regenerated by the Holy Spirit (about 16 months ago) I never did either. He’s lead me to take responsibility and test every teaching by the Word, if it lines up great accept it, if it does not throw it out fast. My point is I agree he throws truth in here and there, but teaches a lot that is false, that being said “bashing” him won’t help anything however we are called to expose false teaching are we not?
Have to agree with you. I wasn't trying to defend him. I have heard him and others say some way off the wall things. And, we do have to take responsibility and test what we hear others say. Many never bother to pick up their Bible and read for themselves. If people would spend some more time reading what the Author said... they would know error when they hear it.
 

Jimbone

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Have to agree with you. I wasn't trying to defend him. I have heard him and others say some way off the wall things. And, we do have to take responsibility and test what we hear others say. Many never bother to pick up their Bible and read for themselves. If people would spend some more time reading what the Author said... they would know error when they hear it.
I agree 100%, and especially about just bashing to bash. I just don't see anything good coming from that kind of approach. To me it's kind of like thinking you're going to lead someone to God with an evolution debate, I mean if your mind is made up, on either side, then it's just an argument. The only people it would affect are those questioning and seeking truth, and is why I don't see these debates as useless, but just trying to argue someone to salvation will never work in my opinion, just like this. You have to actually look into things and seek truth to find it, if you go into it with a preconceived notion then you will just look for things that support your own view anyway. I think we are both on the same page with that brother.
 
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I agree 100%, and especially about just bashing to bash. I just don't see anything good coming from that kind of approach. To me it's kind of like thinking you're going to lead someone to God with an evolution debate, I mean if your mind is made up, on either side, then it's just an argument. The only people it would affect are those questioning and seeking truth, and is why I don't see these debates as useless, but just trying to argue someone to salvation will never work in my opinion, just like this. You have to actually look into things and seek truth to find it, if you go into it with a preconceived notion then you will just look for things that support your own view anyway. I think we are both on the same page with that brother.
Agreed. I don't remember Jesus giving us the responsibility of leading people into "all truth." That was and still IS the job of the Holy Spirit. I believe He does a much better job than we ever could... and in a much better way. I've never read anywhere in scripture of Jesus getting in a person's face and wigging out.
 

ForthAngel

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Then by all means expose error. As I can expose yours!
pastac
When I'm in error, it often gets exposed on here and I welcome it if I am indeed in error. I accept when I am wrong which I have proven many times in the past. Hinn has never. He returns with hateful comments. One in particular was "I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun. I'd blow your head off." Big difference there. If you can show me where he has admitted any errors in what he teaches, it would be greatly appreciated.

Have you met with Binny Hinn personally? That would be my first question. Have you prayed to God about Binny Hinn would be my second? My third are you sure you want to cast stones? My fourth would be. If you have an ought with a brother you are supposed to follow scripture.

The same scripture you quote for your reasoning or does what YOU are supposed to do not apply? Fifth Did God sanction you before time to a ministry of exposing his selected? Sixth are you selected by God are you a false prophet? Just some things to ponder. Lastly Are you the Judge or God your scripture that you use says God is>
1. I have not met with him personally, no. 2. Yes, and many others. 3. I'm not casting stones. 4. True. Do me a favor and try and get in touch with Hinn yourself and tell me how easy that would be. Well-known ministers (people with actual authority on the subject, unlike me) have confronted Hinn personally. 5. I don't claim to be in any kind of "exposing false teachers" ministry. I just live day to day bro, wherever God takes me. My question to you would be, how do you know "God's selected". I'll ask you the same thing you asked me, are you the judge or is God? 6. I hope not, but I am careful before posting anything regarding this subject. If I am wrong, and I admit I am not always right (Hinn does not), then I will face the consequences of it (which I have in the past and continue to do, just like any other human being). I have embarrassed myself publicly in the past and been in pretty serious error and was always corrected and I'm sure it will happen again. I'm not opposed to correction, never said I was 7. Of course God is the judge.

Also, about the "selected by God" question. I'm not claiming to be anything special man. I don't claim God audibly speaks to me or through some strange vision he has come to me or anything like that. I have a testimony to God's grace that I never in a million years would have deserved and I am a sinner just like every one else. I am also not claiming that anyone is saved or not saved, or that they are God's elect or not elect. That's not for me to decide. But according to scripture, I do have the right to judge for myself if someone is teaching sound doctrine or completely warping it beyond recognition, which is the case with Benny Hinn.

His self-appointment, along with major warping of the scripture, has put him in extremely dangerous territory. Those who fawn over him because of his own self-appointment are themselves in danger. Anyone can claim God said this or that. It doesn't mean God spoke to them. This way of preaching is ripe for abuse and leading people astray, and it's exactly what is happening.

The live and let live, all inclusive, anything goes attitude is not biblical. Our God is not a God of chaos.
 
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Then by all means expose error. As I can expose yours! Have you met with Binny Hinn personally? That would be my first question. Have you prayed to God about Binny Hinn would be my second? My third are you sure you want to cast stones? My fourth would be. If you have an ought with a brother you are supposed to follow scripture.

The same scripture you quote for your reasoning or does what YOU are supposed to do not apply? Fifth Did God sanction you before time to a ministry of exposing his selected? Sixth are you selected by God are you a false prophet? Just some things to ponder. Lastly Are you the Judge or God your scripture that you use says God is>
pastac
If I hear you correctly, you're saying he's throwing stones with his statements. However, when you stand for Hinn as righteous & judge your brother for not knowing Hinn, you are judging yourself when you don't know him either.

Is John MacArthur judging when he exposes them on video? What is so different about him? Exposing falsehood in the church is biblical. Those who take a stand for a false prophet IMO are just as bad as bidding a sinner Godspeed. It is foolish, & we have better things to do with our time than that.
 
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How many TV evangelists does it take to change a light bulb?
One. But for the message of light to continue, send in your faith seed today.
 

ForthAngel

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Somewhere Paul; mentions that others were preaching about Jesus... even though they were not part of the 'in crowd". In short, Paul said, "Big deal!" As long as Jesus is preached... whatever their motive might be... don't worry about it."

So, maybe we don't agree with the messenger... as long as they preach the gospel... allow God to straighten them out. Now, I am not a "fan" of Benny Hinn... or any other TV preacher... but, somehow I can't see their heart... but, God can.
There is also this in Acts 16 that we should be aware of:

Acts 16
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

[SUP]17 [/SUP]The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

[SUP]19[/SUP]And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers,

[SUP]20 [/SUP]And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks.
Notice that this woman was speaking the truth but was silenced.
 
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Anonimous

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There is also this in Acts 16 that we should be aware of:



Notice that this woman was speaking the truth but was silenced.
No, she herself was not silenced... it was the demon that was silenced. Her bosses were mad because their means of income was cut off. Jesus also cast out demons when they "claimed" who he was. And actually, that wasn't my point. The point is that Jesus is being preached... as long as it is the Jesus of the Bible. I'm not sure if that
makes a whole lot of sense.
 
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How does Joel Osteen feel about changing a light bulb?

I choose not to make a statement either in favor of or against the need for a light bulb. However, if in your own journey, you have found that a light bulb works for you, that is fine. You are invited to write a poem or compose a modern dance about your personal relationship to your light bulb and present it next month at our annual light bulb Sunday service, in which we will explore a number of light bulb traditions, including incandescent, fluorescent, three-way, long-lived, and tinted; all of which are equally valid paths to luminescence.
 
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I don't know enough about Benny Hinn to really comment but I have seen some troubling teaching/practices from him. It seems he's really improved of late, but it's still very important to be discerning and match up what he says (what anyone says) against what God says.
 
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There is some truth in your statements but remember God used a donkey too relay a message in times past people are so easy to judge they dont remember that
Just because God used a donkey in a specific situation and setting does not mean we are to follow the donkey.
 
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pastac

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If I hear you correctly, you're saying he's throwing stones with his statements. However, when you stand for Hinn as righteous & judge your brother for not knowing Hinn, you are judging yourself when you don't know him either.

Is John MacArthur judging when he exposes them on video? What is so different about him? Exposing falsehood in the church is biblical. Those who take a stand for a false prophet IMO are just as bad as bidding a sinner Godspeed. It is foolish, & we have better things to do with our time than that.
To you I say the analogy was an inference that we are not all perfect and he that is without sin cast the first stone. Trying to place words in my mouth is like putting a gun to the head of a dead man it just wont work. The point I was making was when we follow Gods way our way seems less important. Soul winning is what wise men do and if God says he takes the foolish things to confound the wise then I believe that. Why is it hard to admit we don't know it all and we may be in error as we try to prove someone else is in error seems like a futile discussion then. I stand for Hinn as you put it I stand for you and any other professing Christian flaws and all!!!!
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pastac

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When I'm in error, it often gets exposed on here and I welcome it if I am indeed in error. I accept when I am wrong which I have proven many times in the past. Hinn has never. He returns with hateful comments. One in particular was "I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun. I'd blow your head off." Big difference there. If you can show me where he has admitted any errors in what he teaches, it would be greatly appreciated.



1. I have not met with him personally, no. 2. Yes, and many others. 3. I'm not casting stones. 4. True. Do me a favor and try and get in touch with Hinn yourself and tell me how easy that would be. Well-known ministers (people with actual authority on the subject, unlike me) have confronted Hinn personally. 5. I don't claim to be in any kind of "exposing false teachers" ministry. I just live day to day bro, wherever God takes me. My question to you would be, how do you know "God's selected". I'll ask you the same thing you asked me, are you the judge or is God? 6. I hope not, but I am careful before posting anything regarding this subject. If I am wrong, and I admit I am not always right (Hinn does not), then I will face the consequences of it (which I have in the past and continue to do, just like any other human being). I have embarrassed myself publicly in the past and been in pretty serious error and was always corrected and I'm sure it will happen again. I'm not opposed to correction, never said I was 7. Of course God is the judge.

Also, about the "selected by God" question. I'm not claiming to be anything special man. I don't claim God audibly speaks to me or through some strange vision he has come to me or anything like that. I have a testimony to God's grace that I never in a million years would have deserved and I am a sinner just like every one else. I am also not claiming that anyone is saved or not saved, or that they are God's elect or not elect. That's not for me to decide. But according to scripture, I do have the right to judge for myself if someone is teaching sound doctrine or completely warping it beyond recognition, which is the case with Benny Hinn.

His self-appointment, along with major warping of the scripture, has put him in extremely dangerous territory. Those who fawn over him because of his own self-appointment are themselves in danger. Anyone can claim God said this or that. It doesn't mean God spoke to them. This way of preaching is ripe for abuse and leading people astray, and it's exactly what is happening.

The live and let live, all inclusive, anything goes attitude is not biblical. Our God is not a God of chaos.
The questions I pose to you were questions to cause you to ponder your application of facts. So I will respond likewise.
1- as to meeting him personally I have and find him to be sincere from my spiritual view with my spiritual eyes. My natural eyes saw just a man but my spirit man was not in jeopardy of being deceived as I found him accurate in his assessment of our conversation.

2- in your praying for him was there an answer to your prayer and what was the specific prayer for him would be my focus. If you prayed that God reveal some insight to him because you feel he is false that is different than asking God to correct him and lead him in all truth if he is in fact false as many are trying to claim. And because God answers prayer with a yes you are correct and gives a reply or he answers with nothing an you take that as a no that prayer is still answered you just may not like the answer either way.

3 Contacting him is not a problem for me personally I always get a response just as I do from most of the ministers I contact about 97 % of them respond to me in a reasonable time frame and with all the respect that is deserving of the office I hold as Pastor and I would like to believe because I touched them in such a way that they knew I was as sincere as I feel they are in their collective ministries.

4- Following scripture simply from the ought point of view if people had an issue with brother hinn they should follow scripture and not be motivated by emotions and head knowledge which can be flawed. Especially since many think brother hinn is flawed in his assentation's

5 that was a question that was asked to point out the contrasting assignment you may have versus what I hinn,jakes duplantis,carter,,howell, or any other minister has, not a lessening of who you are or what you are called to do . Only pointing out that your assignment and gifting's are different and some may consider false or out of Gods will just because they don't have the revelation you have or the assignment you have. I shall know them by their fruits is my answer. I am a fruit inspector in my job as Pastor that's all, I point out over ripe fruit, rotten fruit, fruit that is not quite ready to be picked, and fruit that is ready to be picked. I cast no judgments just point out scripture references that always show that our ways are not Gods ways most of the time because we like doing stuff our way.

6-You seem to be an authority on brother hinn pointing out he does not admit when he is wrong I personally know that not to be true as he was convicted several times for his actions that did not line up with Gods accurate word or he was disobedient in the things of God and had to come clean to God his family his wife and his church so as to that point well! We all can be chastised bro hinn is no different but to do it on cc and not on his site or in an email to him seems like not following what scripture says we should do just my point.

7-I know you are not a judge as that is a particular office and appointment it was just making you ponder the differens callings of our purposes in Christ.

Now my conclusion. You are special and your words carry power either written or spoken. Jesus had authority with his spoken word and when he knelt and wrote on the ground those words had the same power.Cc is a powerful tool used to lift the kingdom work or tear it down, life our brothers and sisters or tear them down, but a powerful tool nonetheless. Of course you are to try scripture against scripture but you don't know all scripture nor do I.

We know in part and we hope the part we know is accurate. Here it is for me. I remember being unsaved, the empty feeling of not belonging because I was trul lost in the things of God. I remember the day I was converted and gave my life to Christ and received his gift of salvation. I wanted to be a preacher since I was a boy and even after bible college and years in seminary constant time with God and studying I don't know half of what God shows me in his times with me. I'm amazed at what I still learn at 52 but that lets me know I'm teachable.

I don't think I'm warped in my teaching methods some may just as they may with you hinn, or any other of our brothers or sisters and my main point is hinn is our brother. If my brother has a problem I talk to him not about him if I cant talk to him I pray for him and leave the rest to God as you stated .As for fawning over hinn that was a bit dramatic but point taken some may, some may be swayed or put off by antics or inconsistent actions against their doctrinal views that is just par for the course. But make no mistake leading Gods people astray is a God thing not an us thing.

I like to think like this. God called me to Pastor and I do that well, I teach well, I counsel well, I am well in several areas of the gifts I have been given. I view each man the same that his gifts are between him and God. I let God be God and I don't mess in his affairs. But I welcome in in mine. think you make some valid points and I hope I have as well. I just simply have a real problem calling out Pastors or ministers on public forums or even our brothers and sisters I think it is wrong and maybe I'm biased but I feel strongly that it has to be done scripturally.

And since not everyone receives scripture the same or even reads the same bible then I do know that it is a problem plaguing the body of Christ .We mature believers have to try to re direct the understanding that simply we just don't know all we think we know about our brothers and sisters. be blessed
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pastac

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Just because God used a donkey in a specific situation and setting does not mean we are to follow the donkey.
yet many follow a lot of the donkeys on cc come on!! The donkey was right did you forget that or was your statement saying something else. The donkey was right but still a donkey!!! If Gods ma did not follow the donkey he would have been killed! just my thoughts
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yet many follow a lot of the donkeys on cc come on!! The donkey was right did you forget that or was your statement saying something else. The donkey was right but still a donkey!!! If Gods ma did not follow the donkey he would have been killed! just my thoughts
pastac
Just because God used a donkey once doesn't mean that from this point on we follow the donkey and the donkey is always right.
 
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pastac

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Just because God used a donkey once doesn't mean that from this point on we follow the donkey and the donkey is always right.
So are you saying then wed throw out all the teachings in the bible that happened once? Jesus died once, Goliath was slain once, Sodom was destroyed once, the earth was flooded I that manner once help me understand your whole point. And yes the donkey would always be right as he spoke as God gave him utterance to speak as this was not a natural event but supernaturally endowed by the Spirit of God to use said donkey,
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That is true, I don't see a point in "trash talking" anyone, but "as long as they preach the gospel"? I have heard Benny preach some truth here and there, but doesn't 1 Cor 6 come into play? “Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?”
If he even teaches a few things wrong people should know, and they would know if they ever picked up their bible and read it. I don’t mean that in a condescending way, before I was saved and regenerated by the Holy Spirit (about 16 months ago) I never did either. He’s lead me to take responsibility and test every teaching by the Word, if it lines up great accept it, if it does not throw it out fast. My point is I agree he throws truth in here and there, but teaches a lot that is false, that being said “bashing” him won’t help anything however we are called to expose false teaching are we not?
Exactly, I'm not here to bash him however he has many followers who are being misguided.

John 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
 

Yeraza_Bats

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It seems like he is preaching things that arent even biblical. I mean 9 Godheads? Where was this written? Jesus spoke of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, all being one. He never claimed that there were six more.

Do people really believe that this man was sent to like..... fix Christs message? If hes teaching things that Christ didnt teach, then shouldnt we walk away from what hes teaching?


I really doubt this man is the beast though. The bible does say he will preform false miracles. But like in the end times to lead people to believe the anti christ is of God. I dont think that was meant for people being led to emotional highs in order to give money.

This is one of the reasons I feel the idea of emotional highs from the Holy Spirit is a dangerous idea. Though I do believe its possible for God to use it to console you, I think that it leads to the idea that you have to "feel saved" and feel the need to look for this, even though feeling down is a natural part of our life that God uses as well.

Of course I dont really know much anything. But I do avoid anyone who teaches things that were never taught by Christ. I do not believe that His message needs to be fixed.