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There is absolutely nothing in this verse, nor its immediate context, which denies that God is not The Spirit.
There is absolutely nothing in this verse, nor its immediate context, which denies that the Word is not The Spirit
 
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God....yes.

Not God The Father.

You are reading into the text your unsupported worldview.

Try again...
are you saying God is not the Father???.....what does scripture mean when it says there is only one God the father...you are saying there is another God that is not the Father...so we have (1)God ...(2)the Father..(3)the HS (4) the Son
 
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are you saying God is not the Father???.....what does scripture mean when it says there is only one God the father...you are saying there is another God that is not the Father...so we have (1)God ...(2)the Father..(3)the HS (4) the Son
Is Jesus God ?

Is Jesus the Father ?
 
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are you saying God is not the Father???.....what does scripture mean when it says there is only one God the father...you are saying there is another God that is not the Father...so we have (1)God ...(2)the Father..(3)the HS (4) the Son
There is one God...look again at my avatar.

God The Father
God The Son
God The Spirit


The Trinity.


Your issue is that you think that only The Father is the One God.


Think again....
 
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1 Timothy 2:4-5New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

What do you think about this Scripture?
 
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are you saying God is not the Father???.....what does scripture mean when it says there is only one God the father...you are saying there is another God that is not the Father...so we have (1)God ...(2)the Father..(3)the HS (4) the Son
Is Jesus God ?.....

Is Jesus the Father ?
 
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1 Timothy 2:4-5New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

What do you think about this Scripture?
How readesth thou ?

[h=1]Deuteronomy 6:4King James Version (KJV)[/h]4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
 
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1 Timothy 2:4-5New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]4 [/SUP]who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

What do you think about this Scripture?


Jesus is the God-man.


Jesus is the Savior man.


Thus, when we come to your example, we can easily see that God and Savior both apply to Jesus.


Further, ‘Truth’ also applies to Jesus.


Your example establishes that Jesus is both God and man.


He is the God-man, as thus…

1 Tim 2.3 - 5


For this is good and acceptable before God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to a full knowledge of Truth. For God is one, also there is one Mediator of God and of men, the Man Christ Jesus,
 
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There is one God...look again at my avatar.

God The Father
God The Son
God The Spirit


The Trinity.


Your issue is that you think that only The Father is the One God.


Think again....
according to you this scripture would mean....God the Father is the father of God the father ....father of God the son ...father of God the spirit

Ephesians 4:6

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


this is what the scripture says...
Malachi 2:10

Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
 
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according to you this scripture would mean....God the Father is the father of God the father ....father of God the son ...father of God the spirit

Ephesians 4:6

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


this is what the scripture says...
Malachi 2:10

Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Did the Holy Spirit create in genesis or was it God alone ?
 
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How readesth thou ?

Deuteronomy 6:4King James Version (KJV)

4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
I agree...

Jesus had an interesting conversation with a Scribe which is relevant to this thread.
Mark 12:28-34 (New American Standard Bible)
28One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"
29Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
30AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'
31"The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
32The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that HE IS ONE, AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDES HIM;
33AND TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL THE HEART AND WITH ALL THE UNDERSTANDING AND WITH ALL THE STRENGTH, AND TO LOVE ONE'S NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34When Jesus saw that he had answered intelligently, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." After that, no one would venture to ask Him any more questions.

The question that you have to ask is.....What was the Scribe's understanding of the nature of God? I think that it is obvious that the Scribe believed ""HE IS ONE, AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDES HIM; ""[Deut 4:35]

Jesus concurs with the Scribe's assessment when he ""saw that he had answered intelligently"" and Jesus said...."You are not far from the kingdom of God."

IMO Jesus affirmed that God is one and one alone and there is no other God.

Note....The portions in Capital Letters are quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures.
 
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Jesus is the God-man.


Jesus is the Savior man.


Thus, when we come to your example, we can easily see that God and Savior both apply to Jesus.


Further, ‘Truth’ also applies to Jesus.


Your example establishes that Jesus is both God and man.


He is the God-man, as thus…

1 Tim 2.3 - 5


For this is good and acceptable before God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to a full knowledge of Truth. For God is one, also there is one Mediator of God and of men, the Man Christ Jesus,
[h=1]1 Timothy 3:16King James Version (KJV)[/h]16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 
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Yes, I've been taught and believe God the father, Jesus the son (that gave his life for the sins of the world), and the Holy Spirit that lives on the inside of us (leads and guides us in all truth and righteousness). Blessed Trinity!




I believe in the Trinity!
I write about it!
 
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Is the Holy Spirit a God person or is it the power of God?
Acts 1:8King James Version (KJV)

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

 
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Yes, I've been taught and believe God the father, Jesus the son (that gave his life for the sins of the world), and the Holy Spirit that lives on the inside of us (leads and guides us in all truth and righteousness). Blessed Trinity!




I believe in the Trinity!
I write about it!
because you believe it... that does not make it truth....
 
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This is He about whom I said, After me comes a Man who has been before me, for He was preceding me.(John 1.30)
Of course He was before John the Baptist. "Before Abraham was, I Am." Who is I AM in the O.T.?

I think that answers your question. How many Gods did Israel have in the O.T.?

Did they consider that I AM - the Father? or per chance the everlasting father, when they read Isaiah 9:6? Do we have a different God then is in the Old Testament? When did He change His essence?

What did Jesus say to Philip -- was He playing games with Philip's head here or just word games?

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?




Earlier in this thread - you kept stressing the word "gods" because of Elohim. I think you went on overkill on that and that threw more than just me. I know that Elohim can be plural but the three gods thing was hard for some to see over and over again.

When did the Father become the Father of The Word of God? You only gave me John the Baptist and not the O.T. as I kept asking you and only because you keep asking me for Scripture that I've already given you in abundance. Maybe you work or something and can't keep up with the posts -- well, I can understand that and sympathize.