Was Solomon Saved?

[EbalT5]

No, it says he gave him Saul's house and wives into his care, not for being there actual wives. Jesus never endorsed polygamy. He said the original plan for marriage was like it was back in the Garden.

How many wives did Jacob have? Did God ever complain? No
David had numerous wives and God never complained.
2Sam 3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Sons were born to David at Hebron: his firstborn was Amnon, by Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; [SUP]3 [/SUP]and his second, Chileab, by Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite; and the third, Absalom the son of Maacah, the daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur; [SUP]4 [/SUP]and the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth, Shephatiah the son of Abital; [SUP]5 [/SUP]and the sixth, Ithream, by David’s wife Eglah. These were born to David at Hebron.

Judges 8:30New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]30 [/SUP]Now Gideon had seventy sons who were his direct descendants, for he had many wives.
No complaints from God

God made rules for the second wife.
Exodus 21:10New American Standard Bible (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.

What about brother in law marriage?
Deuteronomy 25:5New American Standard Bible (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]“When brothers live together and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the deceased shall not be married outside the family to a strange man. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her to himself as wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her.

 

[Jason0047]

Your denying scripture...

. 4For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with YAHWEH his God, as was the heart of David his father. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6And Solomon did evil in the sight of YAHWEH, and went not fully after YAHWEH, as did David his father.

9And YAHWEH was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from YAHWEH God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which YAHWEH commanded. 11Wherefore YAHWEH said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. 12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.

40Solomon sought therefore to kill Jeroboam. And Jeroboam arose, and fled into Egypt, unto Shishak king of Egypt, and was in Egypt until the death of Solomon.

And your denying the Scripture of Ecclesiastes. Scripture has to be compared with Scripture, my friend. Solomon did not have his kingdom taken from him while he was ruler. 2 Samuel 7:15 makes it clear that his mercy did not depart from Solomon as it did with Saul. This is another piece of Scripture you have to ignore in order for your theory to work that Solomon was not saved. Besides, Solomon was listed in the royal line of Jesus (i.e. thru Joseph being his legal step father and heir to the throne of David of the nation fo Israel). In other words, you would have us believe that God chose a man who would turn away from the faith to write Holy Scripture and God chose a man who would later be unsaved to be within the royal line of Christ. Jesus never talked about Solomon in an unfavorable light in the New Testament, too.

 

[Jason0047]

12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.

40Solomon sought therefore to kill Jeroboam. And Jeroboam arose, and fled into Egypt, unto Shishak king of Egypt, and was in Egypt until the death of Solomon.

The whole story is obviously not given at this point in Scripture. For why did Solomon seek to kill his son Jeroboam if he himself was wicked?

1 Kings 13:33 After this thing Jeroboam didn't return from his evil way, but again made priests of the high places from among all the people. Whoever wanted to, he consecrated him, that there might be priests of the high places.


Topical Bible: Jeroboam

 

[Brainfreeze]

And your denying the Scripture of Ecclesiastes. Scripture has to be compared with Scripture, my friend. Solomon did not have his kingdom taken from him while he was ruler. 2 Samuel 7:15 makes it clear that his mercy did not depart from Solomon as it did with Saul. This is another piece of Scripture you have to ignore in order for your theory to work that Solomon was not saved. Besides, Solomon was listed in the royal line of Jesus (i.e. thru Joseph being his legal step father and heir to the throne of David of the nation fo Israel). In other words, you would have us believe that God chose a man who would turn away from the faith to write Holy Scripture and God chose a man who would later be unsaved to be within the royal line of Christ. Jesus never talked about Solomon in an unfavorable light in the New Testament, too.

34Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes: 35But I will take the kingdom out of his son's hand, and will give it unto thee, even ten tribes. 36And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there. 37And I will take thee, and thou shalt reign according to all that thy soul desireth, and shalt be king over Israel. 38And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right in my sight, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee. 39And I will for this afflict the seed of David, but not for ever.

Yahshua's Father is YAHWEH. .. He came through, the line of David ... not a descendent ... Brother Jason

 

[Jason0047]

How many wives did Jacob have? Did God ever complain? No
David had numerous wives and God never complained.
2Sam 3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Sons were born to David at Hebron: his firstborn was Amnon, by Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; [SUP]3 [/SUP]and his second, Chileab, by Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite; and the third, Absalom the son of Maacah, the daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur; [SUP]4 [/SUP]and the fourth, Adonijah the son of Haggith; and the fifth, Shephatiah the son of Abital; [SUP]5 [/SUP]and the sixth, Ithream, by David’s wife Eglah. These were born to David at Hebron.

Judges 8:30New American Standard Bible (NASB) [SUP]30 [/SUP]Now Gideon had seventy sons who were his direct descendants, for he had many wives.
No complaints from God

God made rules for the second wife.
Exodus 21:10New American Standard Bible (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.

What about brother in law marriage?
Deuteronomy 25:5New American Standard Bible (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]“When brothers live together and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the deceased shall not be married outside the family to a strange man. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her to himself as wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her.

Just because we do not see any immediate or direct complaints from God does not mean God approves of such said sin. Scripture clearly condemns polygamy in other places. Read the article within the link I provided.

Do you believe God endorses polygamy today? Are you an old school Mormon?

 

[EbalT5]

Did God approve of Polygamy

Deut 21
[SUP]10 [/SUP]“When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, [SUP]11 [/SUP]and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, [SUP]12 [/SUP]then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. [SUP]13 [/SUP]She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. [SUP]14 [/SUP]It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not mistreat her, because you have humbled her.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved, [SUP]16 [/SUP]then it shall be in the day he wills what he has to his sons, he cannot make the son of the loved the firstborn before the son of the unloved, who is the firstborn. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But he shall acknowledge the firstborn, the son of the unloved, by giving him a double portion of all that he has, for he is the beginning of his strength; to him belongs the right of the firstborn.

 

[Jason0047]

34Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes: 35But I will take the kingdom out of his son's hand, and will give it unto thee, even ten tribes. 36And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there. 37And I will take thee, and thou shalt reign according to all that thy soul desireth, and shalt be king over Israel. 38And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right in my sight, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee. 39And I will for this afflict the seed of David, but not for ever.

Yahshua's Father is YAHWEH. .. He came through, the line of David ... not a descendent ... Brother Jason

Yes, I said Solomon was of the royal line, i.e. he was Joseph's father in law, giving him rights to the royal throne of David, who was King of Israel and given the Davidic Promise. Again, Jesus' royal line was not a line of unsaved men.

 

[Brainfreeze]

The whole story is obviously not given at this point in Scripture. For why did Solomon seek to kill his son Jeroboam if he himself was wicked?

1 Kings 13:33 After this thing Jeroboam didn't return from his evil way, but again made priests of the high places from among all the people. Whoever wanted to, he consecrated him, that there might be priests of the high places.


Topical Bible: Jeroboam

34Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

If Solomon's a good guy, why did YAHWEH say this ? The only reason he even lasted the 40 years was because of his father King David..

 

[EbalT5]

Just because we do not see any immediate or direct complaints from God does not mean God approves of such said sin. Scripture clearly condemns polygamy in other places. Read the article within the link I provided.

Do you believe God endorses polygamy today? Are you an old school Mormon?

If God didn't complain how do you know God does not approve?
No I'm not a Mormon.
Polygamy is illegal in the USA.

 

[The_highwayman]

Solomon was hardly the saintly kind of person. Him having multiple wives was probably only a small fraction of his unseemly activities.

(1) There's a good chance that Solomon actually usurped the throne from Adonijah. First, Adonijah was older than Solomon, and would have been naturally in line before Solomon to be king.
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2 Sam3:3 His second son was Kileab, born to Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite. His third son was Absalom, the son of Maacah daughter of King Talmai of Geshur. 3:4 His fourth son was Adonijah, the son of Haggith. His fifth son was Shephatiah, the son of Abitail. 3:5 His sixth son was Ithream, born to David’s wife Eglah. These sonswere all born to David in Hebron.

5:14 These are the names of children born to him in Jerusalem: Shammua, Shobab, Nathan, Solomon, 5:15 Ibhar, Elishua, Nepheg, Japhia, 5:16 Elishama, Eliada, and Eliphelet.
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We know Absolom was killed. Amnon was dead (2 Sam 13). This made Kileab next-in-line then Adonijah, though we don't know what happened to Kileab.

In any case, Adonijah doesn't seem to know anything about Solomon being the rightful successor to David (1 Kn 1:5-6). Not only did Adonijah seem to think he was the rightful king, but David's own top general/right-hand-man Joab and high priest Abiathar also thought Adonijah was the rightful heir (1 Kn 1:7). While David was on his death bead, Adonijah held a coronation party just outside of Jerusalem with David's other sons (except Solomon), the elders of Judah, and David's own royal court in attendance. Everyone thought Adonijah was the rightful heir - everyone except Solomon, his mother Bathsheba, Nathan, and some of David's elite warriors. And it's suspiciously Nathan, Benaiah (one of those elite warriors), and Bathsheba that go see David while he's on his death bead. And while they are in there, it's only then that David supposedly names Solomon as his successor. This is suspicious indeed. Bathsheba has ample motive to see her son be the successor to the throne given that David had her husband murdered (also one of David's elite warriors). David's elite warriors also have motive - Solomon was the son of one of their own, unlike Adonijah.

After Bathsheba, Nathan, and Benaiah claim that David named Solomon, they rush Solomon into a coronation ceremony and then rush him back into Jerusalem before Adonijah could arrive. They have to do this to try to raise support quickly since the support for the rightful king seems to be in favor of Adonijah.

For whatever reason, Adonijah seems to have panicked and grabbed the horns of the altar in the temple, which should have given him safety according to Israelite law. But Solomon and Bathsheba betray that law and murder Adonijah. Then they murder David's top general/right-hand-man Joab. Then they dismiss David's high priest Abiathar. All are conveniently replaced by Solomon's supporters. Benaiah becomes top general. Zadok becomes high priest.

All appearances are that Solomon usurped the throne and eliminated the original claimants. It looks like a classic coup. This isn't all that surprising either; this frequently happens when "strong-man" types of rulers, like David, die leaving a power vacuum behind. Factions formed between those who aligned with Solomon (Nathan, Bathsheba, some of David's royal guard) and Adonijah (David's general, David's high priest, David's other sons, and the royal court). In all odds, David's royal guard did what they always had done, murder their way into power and installed one of their own.

(2) Solomon also seems to have enslaved some of his own population in order to build his work projects - the temple, his own palace, walls, and various cities (1 Kn 9:10-24). Of course, comfortingly we are told that he didn't enslave Israelites, just non-Israelites, though later we find out that he also actually enslaved some Ephraimites and Josephites (1 Kn 11). So in reality, Solomon just didn't enslave his own Judahites. Solomon wasn't wise enough to prevent one of the leaders of his slave labor (Jeroboam) to revolt. Not only did Jeroboam lead a revolt, but it was successful in the end - Israel separated from Judah.

In any case, Solomon appears to have been a usurper to the throne, a murderer, an adulterer, an idolater, a lawbreaker, a politician, a pawn (for his mother and David's royal guard in the beginning), and a harsh slave master.

But other than that, I'm sure he was a model example for the rest of us.

1 Kings 2.15 is Adonijah speaking...Notice the end of the verse. Adonijah knew the throne belonged to Solomon and it was decreed to Solomon by the Lord to David in 2 Samuel 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he said, Thou knowest that the kingdom was mine, and that all Israel set their faces on me, that I should reign:
howbeit the kingdom is turned about, and is become my brother's: for it was his from the Lord.

Solomon had execute and not murdered Adonijah because Adonijah attempted to grab the throne from Solomon and then attempted it again by attempting to gain the hand of marriage of Abishag.

God told David the original claim to his Throne was Solomon and the events leading to Adonijah execution are in the Bible.

Why are you attempting to distort scripture?

 

[Brainfreeze]

Solomon was hardly the saintly kind of person. Him having multiple wives was probably only a small fraction of his unseemly activities.

(1) There's a good chance that Solomon actually usurped the throne from Adonijah. First, Adonijah was older than Solomon, and would have been naturally in line before Solomon to be king.
.

2 Sam3:3 His second son was Kileab, born to Abigail the widow of Nabal the Carmelite. His third son was Absalom, the son of Maacah daughter of King Talmai of Geshur. 3:4 His fourth son was Adonijah, the son of Haggith. His fifth son was Shephatiah, the son of Abitail. 3:5 His sixth son was Ithream, born to David’s wife Eglah. These sonswere all born to David in Hebron.

5:14 These are the names of children born to him in Jerusalem: Shammua, Shobab, Nathan, Solomon, 5:15 Ibhar, Elishua, Nepheg, Japhia, 5:16 Elishama, Eliada, and Eliphelet.
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We know Absolom was killed. Amnon was dead (2 Sam 13). This made Kileab next-in-line then Adonijah, though we don't know what happened to Kileab.

In any case, Adonijah doesn't seem to know anything about Solomon being the rightful successor to David (1 Kn 1:5-6). Not only did Adonijah seem to think he was the rightful king, but David's own top general/right-hand-man Joab and high priest Abiathar also thought Adonijah was the rightful heir (1 Kn 1:7). While David was on his death bead, Adonijah held a coronation party just outside of Jerusalem with David's other sons (except Solomon), the elders of Judah, and David's own royal court in attendance. Everyone thought Adonijah was the rightful heir - everyone except Solomon, his mother Bathsheba, Nathan, and some of David's elite warriors. And it's suspiciously Nathan, Benaiah (one of those elite warriors), and Bathsheba that go see David while he's on his death bead. And while they are in there, it's only then that David supposedly names Solomon as his successor. This is suspicious indeed. Bathsheba has ample motive to see her son be the successor to the throne given that David had her husband murdered (also one of David's elite warriors). David's elite warriors also have motive - Solomon was the son of one of their own, unlike Adonijah.

After Bathsheba, Nathan, and Benaiah claim that David named Solomon, they rush Solomon into a coronation ceremony and then rush him back into Jerusalem before Adonijah could arrive. They have to do this to try to raise support quickly since the support for the rightful king seems to be in favor of Adonijah.

For whatever reason, Adonijah seems to have panicked and grabbed the horns of the altar in the temple, which should have given him safety according to Israelite law. But Solomon and Bathsheba betray that law and murder Adonijah. Then they murder David's top general/right-hand-man Joab. Then they dismiss David's high priest Abiathar. All are conveniently replaced by Solomon's supporters. Benaiah becomes top general. Zadok becomes high priest.

All appearances are that Solomon usurped the throne and eliminated the original claimants. It looks like a classic coup. This isn't all that surprising either; this frequently happens when "strong-man" types of rulers, like David, die leaving a power vacuum behind. Factions formed between those who aligned with Solomon (Nathan, Bathsheba, some of David's royal guard) and Adonijah (David's general, David's high priest, David's other sons, and the royal court). In all odds, David's royal guard did what they always had done, murder their way into power and installed one of their own.

(2) Solomon also seems to have enslaved some of his own population in order to build his work projects - the temple, his own palace, walls, and various cities (1 Kn 9:10-24). Of course, comfortingly we are told that he didn't enslave Israelites, just non-Israelites, though later we find out that he also actually enslaved some Ephraimites and Josephites (1 Kn 11). So in reality, Solomon just didn't enslave his own Judahites. Solomon wasn't wise enough to prevent one of the leaders of his slave labor (Jeroboam) to revolt. Not only did Jeroboam lead a revolt, but it was successful in the end - Israel separated from Judah.

In any case, Solomon appears to have been a usurper to the throne, a murderer, an adulterer, an idolater, a lawbreaker, a politician, a pawn (for his mother and David's royal guard in the beginning), and a harsh slave master.

But other than that, I'm sure he was a model example for the rest of us.

Yeah, He doesn't want to hear any of this, and don't mention the king of Tyre, " Solomon's buddy ", he might call him a saint as well..??!!

 

[EbalT5]

It wasn't just because of a few wives like Abram, the wives of Solomon turned his heart to worship other gods was the root of the problem.

That is the point!
It wasn't that he had too many wives, the problem is that his wives drew him away from the worship of YHWH.
You got it right.

 

[Brainfreeze]

1 Kings 2.15 is Adonijah speaking...Notice the end of the verse. Adonijah knew the throne belonged to Solomon and it was decreed to Solomon by the Lord to David in 2 Samuel 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he said, Thou knowest that the kingdom was mine, and that all Israel set their faces on me, that I should reign:
howbeit the kingdom is turned about, and is become my brother's: for it was his from the Lord.

Solomon had execute and not murdered Adonijah because Adonijah attempted to grab the throne from Solomon and then attempted it again by attempting to gain the hand of marriage of Abishag.

God told David the original claim to his Throne was Solomon and the events leading to Adonijah execution are in the Bible.

Why are you attempting to distort scripture?

And the story goes....



1 Bathsheba and King David (2 Samuel 11:1-26, 12:15-25)
Bathsheba was a beautiful, clever and unscrupulous woman. She was seen by King David as she bathed, desired by him, and subsequently became pregnant to him even though married to the soldier Uriah. Uriah was murdered by David, and she then married the King. Her baby died. She had a second son, who was called Solomon.


2 The struggle for the throne (1 Kings 1:1-37, 2:10-25)
David lost his sexual potency, and therefore his political power, in old age. In a palace coup Bathsheba and her adviser Nathan manoeuvred to secure the throne for Solomon, even though there was an older, more popular brother who was expected to succeed King David. Solomon took the throne, honored his mother, and was advised by her. She took part in court intrigues, occupying the most prestigious position a woman could hold, Queen Mother. She and Solomon organized the death of Solomon's older half-brother who had been the popular choice to succeed King David.

 

[Jason0047]

Re: Did God approve of Polygamy

Deut 21
[SUP]10 [/SUP]“When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, [SUP]11 [/SUP]and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, [SUP]12 [/SUP]then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails. [SUP]13 [/SUP]She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. [SUP]14 [/SUP]It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not mistreat her, because you have humbled her.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved, [SUP]16 [/SUP]then it shall be in the day he wills what he has to his sons, he cannot make the son of the loved the firstborn before the son of the unloved, who is the firstborn. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But he shall acknowledge the firstborn, the son of the unloved, by giving him a double portion of all that he has, for he is the beginning of his strength; to him belongs the right of the firstborn.

Considering Deuteronomy 21:15-17 we read:


If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.


This text does not authorize polygamy. Rather, it demonstrates the unfairness that can result because of it. This law was given to protect the rights of the firstborn under such circumstances. Because of an aversion toward one of the wives when polygamy is tolerated there is the ever present threat to supplant the rights of the firstborn (Jerome Bible Commentary). This text points out the mischief that can come from having more than one wife. In these circumstances it is natural to assume that one wife would be favored above the other. In such relationships strife, jealousy, envy, confusion, constant tension, and vexation are bound to exist. What this text illustrates is that monogamy is to be preferred above polygamy.


The truth is if Deuteronomy 21:15-17 authorizes polygamy, then God has violated His own divine ideal given at Creation. A Critical and Experimental Commentary, by Jamieson, Faussett, and Brown, gives a likely interpretation as to why this text addresses the issue of inheritance rather than polygamy.


In the original, and in all translations but ours, the words are rendered ‘have had,’ referring to events that have already taken place . . . . Moses, therefore, does not here legislate upon the case of a man who has two wives at the same time, but on that of a man who has married twice in succession, the second wife after the decease of the first; and there was an obvious necessity for legislation in these circumstances; for the first wife, who was hated, was dead, and the second wife, the favourite, was alive: and with the feelings of a stepmother, she would urge her husband to make her own son the heir. This case has no bearing upon polygamy, which there is no evidence that the Mosaic code legalized.

Source:
Polygamy – Who Benefits? | Bethel Church of God
(Note: Not all views and beliefs expressed by the author of this site may not reflect my own. I merely agree with the point of topic within this article).

 

[EbalT5]

No, it says he gave him Saul's house and wives into his care, not for being there actual wives. Jesus never endorsed polygamy. He said the original plan for marriage was like it was back in the Garden.

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[TD]7. And Nathan said to David, "You are the man. So says the Lord the God of Israel: 'I anointed you as king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul.[/TD]
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[TD]8. And I gave you the house of your master and your master's wives in your midst, and I gave you the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that were too little, then would I add unto you like them and like them.

I looked up a Jewish translation of 2Samuel12:7-8 and guess what??? ""into his care"" is not in their translation. Do you think maybe the monks did a little editing because the Catholic Church was against polygamy??[/TD]
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[Brainfreeze]

Isaiah 5:20


20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

 

[Jason0047]

34Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

If Solomon's a good guy, why did YAHWEH say this ? The only reason he even lasted the 40 years was because of his father King David..

Notice how he did not take the kingdom from Solomon? Read 2 Samuel 7:15 again. It says God's mercy shall not depart from Solomon as it did from Saul.

 

[EbalT5]

Jewish Commentary on Polygamy
The Torah does not forbid a man from having multiple wives. Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon are notable examples of biblical figures who wedded more than one wife.
A close reading, however, reveals that in virtually all cases where our forefathers took multiple wives, it was for a specific reason. Abraham married Hagar only after Sarah suggested that he do so because she and Abraham had no children together. Another classic example is Jacob. He married Leah only because he was tricked into it by Laban. Similarly, he took Bilhah and Zilpah at the advice of his first two wives, who wished to bear children through them.
Yet the Torah does not outlaw polygamy.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Notice how he did not take the kingdom from Solomon? Read 2 Samuel 7:15 again. It says God's mercy shall not depart from Solomon as it did from Saul.

I guess your not getting it... Maybe in size four letters you will..

34Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

 

[Jason0047]

Isaiah 5:20


20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

The question you should ask yourself is why are you refusing to look at Eccclesiastes and 2 Samuel 7:15? If Solomon was evil then you should not read any of his written works that was inspired by God. If Solomon turned out to be evil, then Jesus' royal line did not glorify saved men but unsaved men.

Besides, even if I thought Solomon was unsaved, I would never quote the verse above to you (Like you just did). I believe you are taking it waaay too personally and you are not looking at all of Scripture, my friend. Look at the list of verses I have given a little more closely in prayer.