Was Solomon Saved?
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It was over for him Kenneth on earth and in heaven... He turned against YAHWEH, he bowed before false gods until the end of his days.. He did not repent for this, and because so the results are proof... The tribes were split!! He did get to live out his days as " prince/king " because of his father David... Scripture is clear on this..
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2 Samuel 7 speaks to David and then to his son Solomon. We know Solomon is in context in verse 15 because if you were to skip two verses ahead, it is clear it is talking about Solomon in verse 13; For Solomon builded God's temple. Not David.
"He shall build an house for my name," (2 Samuel 7:13).
For God said unto David,
"But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood." (1 Chronicles 28:3).
"He shall build an house for my name," (2 Samuel 7:13).
For God said unto David,
"But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood." (1 Chronicles 28:3).
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My last question and I'm done, do you think one can worship false gods after YAHWEH told one to stop, they don't until death... and they go to heaven.. I'm sorry, Jason... Guys going to burn period.. Please show me the verse, where Solomon repented for bowing to false gods... Other then that, I've got nothing else to say... The proof is in the pudding... THE TRIBES WERE SPLIT!
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You can find Solomon's repentance in the book Ecclesiastes when he wrote about, "Vanity of vanities."
He is well known that he wrote this book at the end of his life, and he writes all that he done was in vane because it was without God. And he ended that book by tell others to fear God and keep His commandments.
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You are wrong about Saul. God was not pleased with Saul because he disobeyed the voice of God. God took the Spirit and gave the kingdom to another. Saul was taken in battle with his sons through the sin unto death. Saul knew it was his time to die and had the young boy of the Philistines to finish him off. It was not suicide but he was no longer in fellowship with God directly or through Samuel.
For one to have mercy " which YAHWEH gives to everyone " they have to accept HIS mercy... Obviously solomon didn't ... What your posting means nothing, it has no merit, solomon was evil, slave driving, no good son of a gun, I know what directed solomon... and it wasn't YAHWEH .. Jason, so no answer for my question ? Didn't think so... Your wrong, very wrong!!
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4 And it came to pass that night, that the word of the Lord came unto Nathan, saying,
5 Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the Lord, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?
12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
17 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David.
Solomon sin with strange wives and was indeed chasten with the rod of men
5 Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the Lord, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?
12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
17 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David.
Solomon sin with strange wives and was indeed chasten with the rod of men
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I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
God cannot lie was Solomon punish for his sin ? in what way ? was that the rod of men ?
15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
God cannot lie was Solomon punish for his sin ? in what way ? was that the rod of men ?
I was not implying Saul had fellowship with God right before he took his own life. However, Saul did have fellowship with the Lord at one point in his life, though. For the Spirit of God departed from Saul (1 Samuel 16:14). Oh, and it was suicide. 1 Samuel 31:4 says, "Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it."
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[h=1]2 Chronicles 33:10-19King James Version (KJV)[/h]10 And the Lord spake to Manasseh, and to his people: but they would not hearken.
11 Wherefore the Lord brought upon them the captains of the host of the king of Assyria, which took Manasseh among the thorns, and bound him with fetters, and carried him to Babylon.(rod of men )
12 And when he was in affliction, he besought the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers,
13 And prayed unto him: and he was intreated of him, and heard his supplication, and brought him again to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the Lord he was God.
14 Now after this he built a wall without the city of David, on the west side of Gihon, in the valley, even to the entering in at the fish gate, and compassed about Ophel, and raised it up a very great height, and put captains of war in all the fenced cities of Judah.
15 And he took away the strange gods, and the idol out of the house of the Lord, and all the altars that he had built in the mount of the house of the Lord, and in Jerusalem, and cast them out of the city.
16 And he repaired the altar of the Lord, and sacrificed thereon peace offerings and thank offerings, and commanded Judah to serve the Lord God of Israel.
17 Nevertheless the people did sacrifice still in the high places, yet unto the Lordtheir God only.
18 Now the rest of the acts of Manasseh, and his prayer unto his God, and the words of the seers that spake to him in the name of the Lord God of Israel, behold, they are written in the book of the kings of Israel.
19 His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sins, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among the sayings of the seers.
When was the idols removed ? before he prayed or after ?
11 Wherefore the Lord brought upon them the captains of the host of the king of Assyria, which took Manasseh among the thorns, and bound him with fetters, and carried him to Babylon.(rod of men )
12 And when he was in affliction, he besought the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers,
13 And prayed unto him: and he was intreated of him, and heard his supplication, and brought him again to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the Lord he was God.
14 Now after this he built a wall without the city of David, on the west side of Gihon, in the valley, even to the entering in at the fish gate, and compassed about Ophel, and raised it up a very great height, and put captains of war in all the fenced cities of Judah.
15 And he took away the strange gods, and the idol out of the house of the Lord, and all the altars that he had built in the mount of the house of the Lord, and in Jerusalem, and cast them out of the city.
16 And he repaired the altar of the Lord, and sacrificed thereon peace offerings and thank offerings, and commanded Judah to serve the Lord God of Israel.
17 Nevertheless the people did sacrifice still in the high places, yet unto the Lordtheir God only.
18 Now the rest of the acts of Manasseh, and his prayer unto his God, and the words of the seers that spake to him in the name of the Lord God of Israel, behold, they are written in the book of the kings of Israel.
19 His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sins, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among the sayings of the seers.
When was the idols removed ? before he prayed or after ?
Oh, and 2 Samuel 7:15 cannot be talking about Jesus because verse 14 talks about how if he will commit iniquity he will be corrected with the rod of men and with the stripes of the children of men; And we know it is a Biblical fact that Solomon and not David was to build the Temple. Clearly verse 15 in 2 Samuel 7 is talking about Solomon. For Solomon had built the Temple.
Where...?? Verse please!! Where does it even say solomon wrote that book ?
Koheleth introduces himself as "son of David, king in Jerusalem", perhaps implying that he is Solomon, but the work is in fact anonymous and was most probably composed in the last part of the 3rd century BCE.[2] The book is in the form of an autobiography telling of his investigation of the meaning of life and the best way of life. He proclaims all the actions of man to be inherently hevel, meaning "vain", "futile", "empty", "meaningless", "temporary", "transitory", "fleeting", or "mere breath", as the lives of both wise and foolish people end in death. While Koheleth clearly endorses wisdom as a means for a well-lived earthly life, he is unable to ascribe eternal meaning to it. In light of this senselessness, one should enjoy the simple pleasures of daily life, such as eating, drinking, and taking enjoyment in one's work, which are gifts from the hand of God. The book concludes with the injunction: "Fear God, and keep his commandments; for that is the whole duty of everyone" (12:13).
Koheleth introduces himself as "son of David, king in Jerusalem", perhaps implying that he is Solomon, but the work is in fact anonymous and was most probably composed in the last part of the 3rd century BCE.[2] The book is in the form of an autobiography telling of his investigation of the meaning of life and the best way of life. He proclaims all the actions of man to be inherently hevel, meaning "vain", "futile", "empty", "meaningless", "temporary", "transitory", "fleeting", or "mere breath", as the lives of both wise and foolish people end in death. While Koheleth clearly endorses wisdom as a means for a well-lived earthly life, he is unable to ascribe eternal meaning to it. In light of this senselessness, one should enjoy the simple pleasures of daily life, such as eating, drinking, and taking enjoyment in one's work, which are gifts from the hand of God. The book concludes with the injunction: "Fear God, and keep his commandments; for that is the whole duty of everyone" (12:13).