Big Bang Biblical???

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The bible doesn't go into heavy detail on how everything was created. If you are looking for evidence on the big bang based on the bible you will not find it. That is why I posted the link so you can see how the "big bang" is impossible based on modern man's interpretation of it. Is it possible that God started everything with a bang? Sure! because he created "out of nothing". The natural "big bang" was impossible because there was nothing there! Did you know that modern science says that the big bang started with something the size of a period at the end of a sentence and only took a trillionth of a second to do all the stuff it did? Don't believe me? Look it up!
 
Cako53, did you read my post? (#121) I think I might have provided some biblical evidence there. I'm curious what you think of it.

And Cup-Of-Ruin, can you explain what's unbiblical about relativity of time, bending space and stuff like that? I totally fail to see that.
 
Markus said:
Cako53, did you read my post? (#121) I think I might have provided some biblical evidence there. I'm curious what you think of it.

And Cup-Of-Ruin, can you explain what's unbiblical about relativity of time, bending space and stuff like that? I totally fail to see that.
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I apologize Markus, I must have missed it. I did read it now though. That is a very interesting thought, something that I am unsure of. But I have also read versions of the big bang theory, that don't suggest this, so I guess it depends what one you read. I am not saying that We came out of the big bang, so please don't think that I am saying that. I am just curious.
 
Markus said:
Cako53, did you read my post? (#121) I think I might have provided some biblical evidence there. I'm curious what you think of it.
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That is a very good reference against the "Big Bang" theory, but it still does not disprove that when God created the earth or stars or sun/moon etc..that there was no violent reactions in the process of creation.
 
Graybeard said:
That is a very good reference against the "Big Bang" theory, but it still does not disprove that when God created the earth or stars or sun/moon etc..that there was no violent reactions in the process of creation.
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That's true and I don't really have a problem with violent reaction in the process of creation, I just can't think of a reason why there would have been any.
 
Markus said:
That's true and I don't really have a problem with violent reaction in the process of creation, I just can't think of a reason why there would have been any.
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I'm not all for it, I'm just not against it yet.
 
Markus said:
And Cup-Of-Ruin, can you explain what's unbiblical about relativity of time, bending space and stuff like that? I totally fail to see that.
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Well it's not just unbiblical its completely fake science, utterly false, relativity is a pseudo doctrine, it was necessary to invent the concept in order uphold the fake heliocentric model of Copernicus, because no movement of the earth was detected in experiments, Relativity was invented pre-Einstein, it simply did away with absolute time and space and made it relative, the Devil scored a double victory because of the moral implications of Relativity doctrine.
 
Cup-of-Ruin said:
Well it's not just unbiblical its completely fake science, utterly false, relativity is a pseudo doctrine, it was necessary to invent the concept in order uphold the fake heliocentric model of Copernicus, because no movement of the earth was detected in experiments, Relativity was invented pre-Einstein, it simply did away with absolute time and space and made it relative, the Devil scored a double victory because of the moral implications of Relativity doctrine.
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Well that's just nonsense. But I'm not really interested in your scientific views, since they sound quite illogical to me, I just like to know what's so unbiblical about the idea of relativity of space and time, in your opinion.
 
Markus said:
Well that's just nonsense.
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Well, no, it's not nonsense.


But I'm not really interested in your scientific views, since they sound quite illogical to me,
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My science may seem unfamiliar to you, but on the contrary it is very logical.


I just like to know what's so unbiblical about the idea of relativity of space and time, in your opinion.
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Relativity theory is invented to cover up the failure of Michelson and Morley experiments which could not detect movement of the earth relative to the Aether, so Einstein and others just got rid of the Aether mathematically, since the problem could not be solved with logic and thus heliocentricity would be defeated and the Bible proved correct with a geo-static earth in the centre of the universe. It was necessary to use a method to circumvent the problem, and this was the mathmatical tool of relativity, the Lorentz Transformation. Since there is no relative motion between the Earth and Aether, the MM experiments cannot show anything but "Null-results"!, no movement of the earth. The measured speed of light on Earth must be the same in all directions, - thus, the reltivistic postulates and their mathematical equations are SUPERFLUOUS, meaningless, wrong, fake science.
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The concept of the Aether is neither biblical, nor unbiblical. Maybe the MM experiments didn't show movement of the earth relative to the Aether because there is no Aether and was Einstein correct when he "got rid of the Aether mathematically". Heliocentricity wouldn't have been defeated because you simply can't have a correct geocentric model that explains the movements of the planets as we see them from earth. No matter how many epicycles (or whatever you use to explain the movements of the planets) you postulate, you can't get the geocentric model in line with the observations. Every piece of the puzzle falls beautifully into place when you realize that the sun really is the centre of the solar system. And there's no need to defend geocentricity, because the bible doesn't teach it.
I have another question: why do we have nuclear powerplants? Because if you're correct, they shouldn't work.
 
Markus said:
The concept of the Aether is neither biblical, nor unbiblical. Maybe the MM experiments didn't show movement of the earth relative to the Aether because there is no Aether and was Einstein correct when he "got rid of the Aether mathematically". Heliocentricity wouldn't have been defeated because you simply can't have a correct geocentric model that explains the movements of the planets as we see them from earth. No matter how many epicycles (or whatever you use to explain the movements of the planets) you postulate, you can't get the geocentric model in line with the observations. Every piece of the puzzle falls beautifully into place when you realize that the sun really is the centre of the solar system. And there's no need to defend geocentricity, because the bible doesn't teach it.
I have another question: why do we have nuclear powerplants? Because if you're correct, they shouldn't work.
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Yea the MM experiment showed no movement of the Earth, this agrees with the Bible - "the Earth is stablished, so it cannot be moved" etc.

But if you want to believe Einstein instead of God, go right ahead...
 
I don't have to choose between Einstein and God. I believe everything that God has said, and I believe Einstein figured out some properties of Gods creation. I guess you read the bible as if it were a science textbook, but it isn't. "the Earth is stablished, so it cannot be moved" can simply mean that I don't have to be afraid that the earth will suddenly fall down from under my feet or something. That it's in a stable orbit around the sun.
 
Markus said:
I don't have to choose between Einstein and God. I believe everything that God has said, and I believe Einstein figured out some properties of Gods creation. I guess you read the bible as if it were a science textbook, but it isn't. "the Earth is stablished, so it cannot be moved" can simply mean that I don't have to be afraid that the earth will suddenly fall down from under my feet or something. That it's in a stable orbit around the sun.
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'the Earth is stablished, so it cannot be moved' - that means it is stablished so it cannot be moved, just like the Michelson Morley experiment discovered, no movement, nil, which agrees with what our 5 senses testify as well.
 
Well, I'm very sorry, but our 5 senses testify without a doubt that we are on a planet orbiting the sun just like the other planets. It's simply impossible to explain our observations if the earth was the centre. How do you explain the fact that we are able to very very very accurately and correctly predict the positions of the planets and comets and moons in the sky if the heliocentric model is incorrect, where all geocentric models have failed?
 
Or how do you explain the fact that air doesn't go in a straight line for a high pressure area to a low pressure area? It's easily explained by the fact that the earth makes one rotation around its axis in 24 hours. You also haven't answered my question about nuclear energy. How do you explain that we have nuclear powerplants, because if Einstein was incorrect, they should be useless, yet they are not!
It's good that you want to use your 5 senses, but you forget a very important one: common sense. Your view is simply impossible and makes God look like a fool. But you know just as well as I do that He is certainly not. He created a logical and understandable universe which we can examine and find out how it works, but you refuse to do that because of one misunderstood sentence in the bible and from that you build an illogical, inconsistant and easily refutable cosmology.
 
Okay, just this one and I'll quit, because I realize this is not what the topic was about.
Cup-Of-Ruin, how do you explain the Foucault pendulum. I think it shows undoubtedly that the earth rotates.
 
Markus said:
Okay, just this one and I'll quit, because I realize this is not what the topic was about.
Cup-Of-Ruin, how do you explain the Foucault pendulum. I think it shows undoubtedly that the earth rotates.
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yeah so we get from big bang to fixed earth - go check the thread.

THE TRUTH IS that the Big Bang is just a theory to stop people believing in British Israelism,:o
 
wwjd_kilden said:
what is British Isrealism?
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I was wondering too!..so as google is a friend of mine, this is what he told me:

British-Israelism (Anglo-Israelism) is the belief and teaching of a number of religious groups, that the 10 "lost" tribes of Israel are actually the Anglo-Saxon race and are specifically the people of Great Britain. By definition, then, the Anglo-Saxon (or white) people are the true Israelites, being the descendants of Abraham and are the only chosen people of God and heirs to the covenant of God. The people who are living in Israel today, calling themselves Jews, are actually impostors who mistakenly identify themselves with the Israelites, but are, in fact, descendants of Judah and are not the chosen people of God and are not part of the covenant of God..

http://www.ondoctrine.com/10brtish.htm

BTW greatkraw, do you believe this?
 
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