Are bikinis immodest?

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Are bikinis immodest

  • yes

    Votes: 56 72.7%

  • no

    Votes: 21 27.3%
  • Total voters
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Kerry

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Any ways I thought this about women being half naked at the beach and not a Jimmy Swaggart bashing. But evidently, he is doing something right, he has his own network and no one else has and that takes a lot of money and a lot of people giving it. Just call TBN and ask how much a 30 minute spot cost and then think about a 24 hour network, thats on Dish, Comcast, Time warner, Direct TV, The UK, Australia, and all over the world.

In my opinion, He is a modern day Apostle, bringing back the message of the cross to the body of Christ. Many preachers have failed and are accepted, because they preach what tickles the ears. Swaggart, will make you mad, but for some reason you have to keep listening. Because he preaches the truth. If you let something that happened 30 years ago get in your way, I meant just how perfect are you?
 
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nogard

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If a woman wears a bikini, and no one sees her in it, is it still immodest?
 
Word_Swordsman

Word_Swordsman

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Nobody can avoid seeing a woman in a bikini, but you can discipline yourself not to take another look. It helped me by thinking of them as sisters. I was trained by the government to always keep my eyes focused on eyes, keeping a purity of professionalism in place at all times, plus much can be read in eyes for purposes of planning the next moment.

My problem is mine alone if I look again. That second look is taking a bite of temptation to look more closely, which is the beginning of lust. Capture the thought, slam it to the ground and look away.
 
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john832

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justin777 said:
I am wondering what you think about this I know many Christian women wear them.
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There are "Christians" who do any number of things that God's word condemns.
 
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phil112

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Kerry said:
.................... Swaggart, will make you mad, but for some reason you have to keep listening. Because he preaches the truth. If you let something that happened 30 years ago get in your way, I meant just how perfect are you?
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Maybe he preaches truth, but he doesn't live it. Just like the rest of the TV "evangelists", he has a pot of money and he shares it with no one. God never intended for preachers to become rich by preaching His word.
2 Corinthians 8:13,14 "For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality"

I promise you there is no equality between TV preachers and their flock. That supplying want deal only goes one way, now doesn't it?




Word_Swordsman said:
......................My problem is mine alone if I look again. That second look is taking a bite of temptation to look more closely, which is the beginning of lust. Capture the thought, slam it to the ground and look away.
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Not true. Women dress to be seen and dress so men will look. The ones that do that are just as culpable, if not more so, than the men they entice.
 
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john832

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phil112 said:
Not true. Women dress to be seen and dress so men will look. The ones that do that are just as culpable, if not more so, than the men they entice.
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I may be married and I may be old, but I ain't dead yet. When some young gal flaunts it, it is a test of character to look the other way.

Pro 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction are the way of life,
Pro 6:24 To keep you from the evil woman, From the flattering tongue of a seductress.
Pro 6:25 Do not lust after her beauty in your heart, Nor let her allure you with her eyelids.
Pro 6:26 For by means of a harlot A man is reduced to a crust of bread; And an adulteress will prey upon his precious life.
Pro 6:27 Can a man take fire to his bosom, And his clothes not be burned?
Pro 6:28 Can one walk on hot coals, And his feet not be seared? Pro 6:29 So is he who goes in to his neighbor's wife; Whoever touches her shall not be innocent.

This passage helps me keep the proper perspective.
 
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gb9

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Jesus said to look at a woman to lust after her or with lust in your eye is a sin. he did not to look at a women is a sin. it is more of a internal heart and sprit issue than a external dress issue. but, so no one will get me wrong, there should not be provocative dress by Christian women. wearing an swimsuit, as long as it is not too revealing, at the beach or pool, not wrong.
 
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john832

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gb9 said:
Jesus said to look at a woman to lust after her or with lust in your eye is a sin. he did not to look at a women is a sin. it is more of a internal heart and sprit issue than a external dress issue. but, so no one will get me wrong, there should not be provocative dress by Christian women. wearing an swimsuit, as long as it is not too revealing, at the beach or pool, not wrong.
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Notice the thread title, a bikini leaves little to the imagination.
 
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Human

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phil112 said:
So what God had to say about modesty and moderation is irrelevant.

Okay, gotcha....thanks for clearing that up for us.
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Modesty isn't just about the level of clothing a person wears. It's to do with the manner in which one wears them and the intent with which one dresses in the chosen manner. Modesty simply means unassuming.

It's not immodest for a tribal woman to spend her day clad in a loin cloth and not much else, nor is it immodest for an infant girl to run around her house in the nude. It's not necissarily immodest for a grown woman to be completely naked (in her bedroom, around her husband) nor is it modest for a fully clothed woman to be suggestively licking her lips.

Context is more important than level of clothing, in my opinion.
 
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notuptome

notuptome

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You cannot live by societies norms. Society will be in continuous state of flux and a downward flux. When man sinned in the garden God made a covering for them because they were naked. They knew they were naked and tried to cover themselves because they sinned.

Today we seem to forget that we are sinners and we want to go about uninhibited by clothing. I wish to God that all of us would be ashamed at nakedness when we encounter it. Most times we don't have the sense God intended for us to have.

What got David in trouble if it was not the nakedness of Bathsheba?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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john832 said:
Notice the thread title, a bikini leaves little to the imagination.
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The imagination's efforts are the real reason lust takes mental form in a person's mind. Imagining the person with less clothing can invoke more lust than seeing them in a state that leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination.

Thoughts cause more lust than dress, unless of course you think you can't be held responsible for your own mental ruminations.
 
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The_highwayman

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King David slept with one of his thirty best men wives and then had Him killed are going to throw him out of the bible?. Yes if you go to a club dresses half naked and get raped in my opinion you were asking for it. Don't mean it's right and the rapist should be charge, but it don't change the fact that you were raped.
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If David had been where he was commanded by God to be, he would have never been on his rooftop. Stop re-directing and being an chauvinist.
 
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Kerry

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The_highwayman said:
If David had been where he was commanded by God to be, he would have never been on his rooftop. Stop re-directing and being an chauvinist.
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But he wasn't, so you gonna throw him out, did God?
 
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The_highwayman

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Kerry said:
Any ways I thought this about women being half naked at the beach and not a Jimmy Swaggart bashing. But evidently, he is doing something right, he has his own network and no one else has and that takes a lot of money and a lot of people giving it. Just call TBN and ask how much a 30 minute spot cost and then think about a 24 hour network, thats on Dish, Comcast, Time warner, Direct TV, The UK, Australia, and all over the world.

In my opinion, He is a modern day Apostle, bringing back the message of the cross to the body of Christ. Many preachers have failed and are accepted, because they preach what tickles the ears. Swaggart, will make you mad, but for some reason you have to keep listening. Because he preaches the truth. If you let something that happened 30 years ago get in your way, I meant just how perfect are you?
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Jimmy Swaggert NEVER submitted to proper restoration and chose to let the Assemblies of God Defrock him, when they asked him to give up being on TV and in the public for the 2 year restoration period he agreed to, as every AOG Ordained minister agrees to.

Because of this swaggert went indepnedant and was never properly restored for his SIN and has since condemned the AOG and everyone else that attempted to counsel and restore him.

His false gospel aside, he never was correctly restored. The AOG denomination defrocked him, for his refusal to adhere to the AOG 2 year restoration process which all AOG ministers must go through, when it is discovered they have been in guilty in Sexual SIN.

Because of this and the refusal to let anyone restore him but "Jesus Christ" the man has no minister standing in my view.
 
Hizikyah

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Kerry said:
But he wasn't, so you gonna throw him out, did God?
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Kerry why so much focus on David's errors, the thief, etc.. why not focus on who the Savior wants us to be?

The "old man" being dead is day one stuff, is it not time to move on toward maturity?
 
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The_highwayman

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Kerry said:
But he wasn't, so you gonna throw him out, did God?
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God did not throw David out, because he repented....Aside from the very fake public showmans apology, Swaggert never has repented, because he failed to follow the restoration plan outlined by the denomination that ordained him.

In fact he attempted to sue the AOG for forcing him to the plan.

All you are doing is diverting away from the fact, you blame women for causing men to stumble...come to full age man....put that under the blood and man up and take your own accountability.
 
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Kerry

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phil112 said:
Maybe he preaches truth, but he doesn't live it. Just like the rest of the TV "evangelists", he has a pot of money and he shares it with no one. God never intended for preachers to become rich by preaching His word.
2 Corinthians 8:13,14 "For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality"



I promise you there is no equality between TV preachers and their flock. That supplying want deal only goes one way, now doesn't it?




Not true. Women dress to be seen and dress so men will look. The ones that do that are just as culpable, if not more so, than the men they entice.
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when did we start looking at the man and not the message. I know this thread is about bikinis, would you go out in your underwear? What's the difference? It's underwear with colors. What do women want to expose them self and then claim a mans exploitation, you know that the celebs are now posting full nude photos on what 's it called instagram and what not. I meant just go to walmart, you don't need to buy a magazine, they are showing it willfully.

It needs to stop.

Back to tv preachers, does this include internet and youtube preachers as well?
 
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Kerry

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Hizikyah said:
Kerry why so much focus on David's errors, the thief, etc.. why not focus on who the Savior wants us to be?

The "old man" being dead is day one stuff, is it not time to move on toward maturity?
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Because as I have said to much focus is on the man and not the message. I would rather bash a guy for the message he preach rather than what he did last night. All of the OT greats failed and we will fail. I thank God that my failures were not blasted over tv and internet aren't you?

I meant a celeb screws up, and does drugs and slaps his wife or beats his children. we love them and become fan club members and buy all the memorabilia we can. But if a preacher makes one mistake, let's send him to hell.
 
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Kerry

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The amazing thing to me is that Christians have no forgiveness.
 
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