Why do some Christians think the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/herasy?

[eternally-gratefull]

the biggest reason is the gospel.


Scripure says we are saved by faith not works. Yet the catholic church states our salvation is through a sacramental (works) based system. and even then, does not assure salvation.

salvation thus is based on us, and how good we do, and not Christ.

However I must say, If I believed in a works oriented gospel. I would most definately be a catholic. They have the most means to heaven.. I would feel more secure doing all their works, then just a few works of the other churches..

 

[kennethcadwell]

As a fellow Catholic, firstly be conscious that most here aren't Catholic, and may have negative views (that are often misguided) about the Catholic Church. I hope and pray that you can find the beauty and mystery in our ancient Church, and remain in her. As Saint Augustine said: "O Beauty ever ancient, ever new."
If you have questions the site Catholic Answers - Catholic Answers is a great place to find answers.

God bless.

As I love my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, as we are told to by the word.
I would caution you as a Catholic on what you just said. You told a fellow Catholic to go to a Catholic website for answers. We are to test everything that is told to us by our man made denominations with the scriptures of the bible, His Holy Word. If it does not match up, then it is not from God, for no man has the right to add, take away, or change anything from His Word. The truth should always be looked for in His Word.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

One of the most informative sites that expose the false teachings of Roman Catholicism i have found is Berean Beacon. It's ran by a former Catholic priest of 28 years. Richard goes to great lengths to detail the false teachings of the RCC from a very educated stand point. He does not hate Roman Catholics but he is against the RCC's obvious stand against God and His saving power and that is reflected in his highly educated and loving words. If you get a chance, check it out sometime.

"The Roman religious cultus and doctrinal system is the epitome of a man-made religion system. It is an authoritatively self-referencing dogmatic belief system that substitutes itself in the place of a relationship with the living God through the Gospel"

 

[secularhermit]

There are many things wrong with the RCC, mostly because Catholics do not read the Bible!

But the only one of these errors that matters is soteriology or how a person is saved! The Bible us clear we are saved by grace through faith. God alone saves!

The RCC believes the church, through the ever dying Jesus of the mass and sacrament saves, and that is not, and never has been how we are saved.

Some do read it but, if you have cheched, at the bottom of each "reading", their Church "interprets" what the Bible itsself says, so, by doing so, those readers are bound to bellive their "leaders".

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

One of the most informative sites that expose the false teachings of Roman Catholicism i have found is Berean Beacon. It's ran by a former Catholic priest of 28 years. Richard goes to great lengths to detail the false teachings of the RCC from a very educated stand point. He does not hate Roman Catholics but he is against the RCC's obvious stand against God and His saving power and that is reflected in his highly educated and loving words. If you get a chance, check it out sometime.

"The Roman religious cultus and doctrinal system is the epitome of a man-made religion system. It is an authoritatively self-referencing dogmatic belief system that substitutes itself in the place of a relationship with the living God through the Gospel"

Correction: he was not a Catholic priest for 28 years but was a Catholic priest

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[GodsGirl368]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

 

[kennethcadwell]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

Yes they are a branch of Christianity, and some like to point out the planks (wrongs) of that church and not look at the planks (wrongs) in their own denomination.

Saying that though I have come across some Catholic's who believe they are not Christian.
A nun even came and did a bible study with a group of people, and she was asked a question by one of them saying aren't you a Christian. Her response to start out with was no there is a difference between Catholic's and Christians. When I heard that I joined the conversation, and started questioning her. I first asked do you believe in Jesus Christ and what He did for us? She said yes. I then asked her does she follow His teachings? She said again yes. I told her then you are Christian, because that is what believing in Him is all about. That He existed in flesh, died on the cross to give remission of sins, resurrection on the third day, and the continuance of following His teachings.

 

[Utah]

A few things to add:

A man who graduates from a Catholic seminary and becomes a priest does not suddenly become endowed with special powers that enable him to turn bread and wine into the actual body and blood of Jesus. News flash, the bread and wine remain just that, bread and wine.

Purgatory? No such place. To say that purgatory exists is to say that what Jesus did on the Cross and rising from the dead was not good enough.

The Catholic Church puts the Catholic Church above Jesus Christ -- not in writing, but damn sure in practice.

Too much guilt and damnation, not enough grace. My heart breaks for Catholics because they live in perpetual fear according to what they are taught. Thankfully some are able to break through the imprisonment and rejoice, but not many.

 

[Jackson123]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

you may consider to read Jesuit secret Oath from US congress journal and Judge yourself if it christian.

If you want to read complete oath this is the link


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"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica] Professor Arthur Noble [/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843),[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica] translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.][/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica] When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers.
Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:
(The Superior speaks
My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but op
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[Jason0047]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

Jehovah's Witnesses calls themselves Christians but they are not true Christians. They call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses because it helps them to distinguish themselves from others. It is the same with Catholics. They call themselves Catholics or the Catholic Church. Most Catholic websites are called Catholic, etc. They distinguish themselves as being Catholic because it is Catholic and not it is not really Christian. Christian is more of a sub heading or name for them. Catholics are Catholics and Bible believing Christians are Christians.

 

[JonahLynx]

1) Perhaps the most relevant cause of our skepticism/cynicism is Rome's track record. The largest persecutor of Christians has, historically, been the Catholic church. The church in its prime was notorious for its violence, deception, and meddling in world affairs - which largely contributed to the atheist movement via French Revolution and of course the Protestant Reformation. Although the inquisitions and crusades are over, there is a dark blemish on RCC for this reason alone.

2) The status of the Pope is dangerously close to, or even outright blasphemy. The position has been titled "Holy Father," and "Lord God the Pope" in history. Vatican writings also accentuate his assumed supreme authority over all Christians, that he acts and speaks on behalf of God, and that he is implicitly infallible. Such an ideology has led to the events of my first point.

3) Mary is a goddess in the Catholic church, being named "Mother of God" and believed to be in greater authority than Christ as a result. She is seen as a mediator between God and man, when the Bible explicitly says that this is Christ's position alone. Mary is also believed to be sinless. The deification of Mary and demotion of Jesus is heresy.

4) Idolatry is an infestation in Rome, who encourages bowing to/kissing the statues of Mary and the saints in addition to praying to them. Not only is this idolatry, but the practice also constitutes communing with the dead or necromancy - which is vehemently condemned in Scripture (a crime worthy of capital punishment acc. Leviticus). Evidently, praying to the dead is an act God hates.

5) The Catholic church teaches the doctrine of Purgatory, where souls/spirits are able to be prayed or bought into heaven. It also rejects salvation by grace alone, but believes that man must do good works in order to earn salvation. This has oppressed many true Christians and prevented them from having the peace that comes from being forgiven and loved unconditionally by the Lord.

6) Rome believes that the bread and wine of communion turns into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it encourages actual cannibalism.

 

[Jason0047]

Yes they are a branch of Christianity, and some like to point out the planks (wrongs) of that church and not look at the planks (wrongs) in their own denomination.

Saying that though I have come across some Catholic's who believe they are not Christian.
A nun even came and did a bible study with a group of people, and she was asked a question by one of them saying aren't you a Christian. Her response to start out with was no there is a difference between Catholic's and Christians. When I heard that I joined the conversation, and started questioning her. I first asked do you believe in Jesus Christ and what He did for us? She said yes. I then asked her does she follow His teachings? She said again yes. I told her then you are Christian, because that is what believing in Him is all about. That He existed in flesh, died on the cross to give remission of sins, resurrection on the third day, and the continuance of following His teachings.

In order to be a branch you have to actually have life in that branch which comes from the trunk or the Tree of Life (Who is Jesus). They never were a branch of true Christianity. Catholicism is the result of taking various aspects of pagan Roman religious practices and mixing it with elements of Christianity. It never was an official branch of true Christianity. It has always been false since it's formation with Constantine.

 

[ArtsieSteph]

I have no doubt that a person who was raised roman catholic can indeed ask Jesus in their heart as their savior at a young age, it's just some of the doctrine I disagree with. Praying to mary: she was just the vessel God used to carry His Son, not the queen of heaven or anything. Praying to saints: they were just men who were blessed enough for God to give them His grace first off and then work in that grace to do what He wanted. Saying the same prayers over and over: there's a verse about not being like the heathen (if that's the correct word, I can't recall fully), with a multitude of words. Don't we trust God to hear us the first time? Thinking water baptism is what saves: it specifically says no one can see the kingdom of heaven lest they be born again, meaning asking Jesus into their heart. Water baptism is just a witness to that salvation. Confessing to a priest: he doesn't forgive your sinis, Jesus does. Confess to Jesus. The Pope: his position is held creepily high. Those priests (not sure about the people who do, or if they still do the whole celibacy thing some places) that are forced to be celibate: it specifically says for those who don't think they can do it, to marry. Shouldn't be forced to be celebate just cuz you wanna serve the Lord.

 

[Jason0047]

Yes, Catholics can be saved, but they have to come out of Catholicism to do it, though. You can't practice idolatry and or pray to the dead and be saved anymore than you can believe on Jesus and be a practicing axe murderer and be saved.

 

[notuptome]

Roman Catholic church is a religion. Religion cannot save. Romanism will never teach eternal security for the believer. They cannot because their soteriology is wrong. We are saved by grace received through faith according to Ephesians 2:8-9. Gods grace is made available to us because Christ went to the cross and shed His blood to atone for our sins. The blood of Christ fully and eternally atones for our sins. Nothing can be added or taken away from the atonement that Christ made for us.

God imputes the righteousness of Christ to us by grace. 2 Corinthians 5:21 Mark 10 we see Christ as the minister of our salvation. Christ came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to die for sinners.

We see Christ as the intercessor for us before the Father in heaven. Christ is also the mediator of the new covenant in Hebrews.

Christianity is all about Christ and not about the church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[GodsGirl368]

"6) Rome believes that the bread and wine of communion turns into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it encourages actual cannibalism."

This actally made me laugh, it's not taken literal lol

 

[sealabeag]

Jesus seems to have taken it pretty literally...

 

[LionEyes]

Why do some Christians think the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/herasy?

They're just jealous.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I am Roman Catholic and I would like to hear your thoughts

It's not just Catholics. It's all churches. They've all been on the chopping block. Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, church of Christ, Jehovah's witness, charismatic churches. They've all had their turn.

 

[ArtsieSteph]

"6) Rome believes that the bread and wine of communion turns into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it encourages actual cannibalism."

This actally made me laugh, it's not taken literal lol

Now I know why people always make "zombie jesus" jokes