If None of Us Get Married, Who is God Calling to Raise His Next Generation?

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seoulsearch

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Hey Everyone,

*I wasn't sure how to "summarize" this one, so I know some people will want to read this and some will see it as being too long. :) My thanks in advance to those who want to read and discuss the topic.*

Something I was thinking about today: many of us here in Singles have a variety of different reasons as to why we aren't married. I could list a thousand different reasons and every single one has some validity. Some of the most popular reasons here in the forum seem to be: fear, hurt, rejection, can't find the right person (or any person), wanting to concentrate on other things right now (career, raising children, etc.), and believing that marriage has more negative outcomes than positive.

All of these reasons can be perfectly legitimate. But I couldn't help but ask, if most Christian singles don't get married, who is God calling to create and raise His next generation of believers?

As many here know, I myself am adopted. For whatever reason they had at the time, my birth parents (presumably) put me in a cardboard box and left me in a public place to be found. I was born into a society that sees no use for an unwanted child, except as an object or slave. I am very thankful to God that a young Christian couple in the middle of No
Where's Land, USA, very much wanted that unwanted child.

But what if a Christian couple had not stepped up? What if I had been adopted by two people who were very loving... but gay, and that was the only environment I had known? I can only imagine the stones and hellfire I would be walking through right now from the CHURCH, and not necessarily from God, because He would have understood my situation. Let me also tell you, as someone who went back to her own orphanage as an adult and saw for herself many, many children who will never be adopted, if this would have been MY ONLY CHOICE, I would have surely chosen two gay people who loved me as their own child rather than an institution. I am certainly NOT saying IN ANY WAY that it is God's plan for gay couples to raise the next generation.

BUT at the same time, if so many of us Christian singles aren't, who is God calling to raise the children who are both created and abandoned in order to fill the earth? God has never taken back the command to "Be fruitful and multiply," though that can mean very different things for different people.

The point of my post is this--many of us aren't married because we haven't found the "right" person, situation, or set of benefits that will entices us into getting married. Some of us are waiting for perfect people and perfect situations. Some just haven't found anyone willing to marry them (and I am certainly NOT condoning getting married just to be married or because you're in a rush.) Others are too afraid, hurt, bitter, or just not interested in looking. All of these situations might be acceptable in their own situations. But here are some questions I've been thinking about.

1. Do you think God will simply call together the "right number" of Christian couples to produce (whether on their own or through adoption, etc.) enough human beings to carry us into the future? Will they all be "nearly perfect couples", as we all seem to hope for in our own lives, or do you think they will be marriages purposely called together with a lot of flaws and heartaches?

2. Could God be calling us to what would be very hard marriages, partially in order to learn to trust Him, and partially in order to raise children? I once knew a couple who married in their early 20's. Everyone, including the groom's father, told her not to marry him because he was already a raging alcohol. But at 16 years old, she felt God was calling her to stand by and marry this man. It took 20 years of living hell--suicide attempts, drunken rages, ultimatums and near-divorce--but he finally gave his life to Christ. And, they had a beautiful daughter whom they both loved very much.

3. Instead of marrying, do you believe God is calling many of us singles to adopt, foster children, help raise the families of those around us who are struggling?

I understand that God's will and plans will prevail whether we all marry or not.

But I have to wonder, is the reason many of us aren't married and having families because we are refusing to answer a call into a life that might not have the happily-ever-after story we think we can find if we just hold out long enough? And if we don't answer the call, what will become of the next generation of Christians?

(I am not criticizing anyone for where they are at in life or why. After all, I happen to be one of those people hoping to hold out for a "good" situation! I just thought this might be an interesting topic of discussion.)
 
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Good thought!

My son, who is not married neither a Christian, will be a dad this year (if God allows).

God knows it better!
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Hi Secular,

Congrats to your son :).

I do want to make the point here though that I AM NOT SAYING in any way, shape, or form, that God will try to fill the next generation through means that go against His own commands at all.

I'm just saying... Could we be missing out on His Plan because we're too hung up on how beneficial a situation will be for us?

And is God calling many of us as unmarried singles to be "parents" in other ways, such as by supporting other parents, whether it be by babysitting, helping with errands, meeting physical and emotional needs, or just listening?

I myself believe I make a much better "mid-wife" (support person who will hold your hand and yell, "PUSH, PUSH!! YOU'VE GOT THIS!!") rather than try to be a parent myself. But I also try to be honest with myself as to whether or not I'm just making excuses because I don't want to "mess up" my "comfortable little life" or choose to take on a situation in which I'm not receiving the lioness's share of benefits.
 

Joidevivre

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For every one of you who are holding off getting married, there are 1,000 Christians everyday who are having babies. I wouldn't worry about the next generation. The maternity wards are still very full every day.

And they are swarming around me - 17 grandchildren.
 

seoulsearch

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For every one of you who are holding off getting married, there are 1,000 Christians everyday who are having babies. I wouldn't worry about the next generation. The maternity wards are still very full every day.

And they are swarming around me - 17 grandchildren.
A person could be unmarried with 1,500 cousins.

But if God is calling them to step up and help raise the next generation (Maybe by taking in one of those cousins who is being neglected? Becoming a foster parent? Adopting a child? Helping your neighbor who is a single parent? Becoming a Big Brother or Sister?) and they aren't obeying His call, they're turning their back on God's plan.

If God is leading us in a particular direction and we aren't listening, it doesn't matter if a million other kids are being raised around us.
 
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ServantStrike

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For every one of you who are holding off getting married, there are 1,000 Christians everyday who are having babies. I wouldn't worry about the next generation. The maternity wards are still very full every day.

And they are swarming around me - 17 grandchildren.
Conservatives tend to be the ones who have less children.

So, Christianity is in very real danger of becoming extinct over successive generations. Either that or it will morph into something very different than it is today.
 
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Tintin

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I don't know. All I know is that I need some time to heal before looking again.

In the meantime, I'll just share God's goodness with the children God has put in my care in one form or another eg. students - in regards to teaching and the children of cousins and friends.
 
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ELECT

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Hey Everyone,

*I wasn't sure how to "summarize" this one, so I know some people will want to read this and some will see it as being too long. :) My thanks in advance to those who want to read and discuss the topic.*

Something I was thinking about today: many of us here in Singles have a variety of different reasons as to why we aren't married. I could list a thousand different reasons and every single one has some validity. Some of the most popular reasons here in the forum seem to be: fear, hurt, rejection, can't find the right person (or any person), wanting to concentrate on other things right now (career, raising children, etc.), and believing that marriage has more negative outcomes than positive.

All of these reasons can be perfectly legitimate. But I couldn't help but ask, if most Christian singles don't get married, who is God calling to create and raise His next generation of believers?

As many here know, I myself am adopted. For whatever reason they had at the time, my birth parents (presumably) put me in a cardboard box and left me in a public place to be found. I was born into a society that sees no use for an unwanted child, except as an object or slave. I am very thankful to God that a young Christian couple in the middle of No
Where's Land, USA, very much wanted that unwanted child.

But what if a Christian couple had not stepped up? What if I had been adopted by two people who were very loving... but gay, and that was the only environment I had known? I can only imagine the stones and hellfire I would be walking through right now from the CHURCH, and not necessarily from God, because He would have understood my situation. Let me also tell you, as someone who went back to her own orphanage as an adult and saw for herself many, many children who will never be adopted, if this would have been MY ONLY CHOICE, I would have surely chosen two gay people who loved me as their own child rather than an institution. I am certainly NOT saying IN ANY WAY that it is God's plan for gay couples to raise the next generation.

BUT at the same time, if so many of us Christian singles aren't, who is God calling to raise the children who are both created and abandoned in order to fill the earth? God has never taken back the command to "Be fruitful and multiply," though that can mean very different things for different people.

The point of my post is this--many of us aren't married because we haven't found the "right" person, situation, or set of benefits that will entices us into getting married. Some of us are waiting for perfect people and perfect situations. Some just haven't found anyone willing to marry them (and I am certainly NOT condoning getting married just to be married or because you're in a rush.) Others are too afraid, hurt, bitter, or just not interested in looking. All of these situations might be acceptable in their own situations. But here are some questions I've been thinking about.

1. Do you think God will simply call together the "right number" of Christian couples to produce (whether on their own or through adoption, etc.) enough human beings to carry us into the future? Will they all be "nearly perfect couples", as we all seem to hope for in our own lives, or do you think they will be marriages purposely called together with a lot of flaws and heartaches?

2. Could God be calling us to what would be very hard marriages, partially in order to learn to trust Him, and partially in order to raise children? I once knew a couple who married in their early 20's. Everyone, including the groom's father, told her not to marry him because he was already a raging alcohol. But at 16 years old, she felt God was calling her to stand by and marry this man. It took 20 years of living hell--suicide attempts, drunken rages, ultimatums and near-divorce--but he finally gave his life to Christ. And, they had a beautiful daughter whom they both loved very much.

3. Instead of marrying, do you believe God is calling many of us singles to adopt, foster children, help raise the families of those around us who are struggling?

I understand that God's will and plans will prevail whether we all marry or not.

But I have to wonder, is the reason many of us aren't married and having families because we are refusing to answer a call into a life that might not have the happily-ever-after story we think we can find if we just hold out long enough? And if we don't answer the call, what will become of the next generation of Christians?

(I am not criticizing anyone for where they are at in life or why. After all, I happen to be one of those people hoping to hold out for a "good" situation! I just thought this might be an interesting topic of discussion.)
God can take non Christians to raise a gneration of prayer warriors
Even christians bring forth an evil seed example Adam and Eve brought Cain and Abel ;)

Take for example John parent had given up a long time but by the command of God that passion was renewed and ignited ;)
 
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A person could be unmarried with 1,500 cousins.

But if God is calling them to step up and help raise the next generation (Maybe by taking in one of those cousins who is being neglected? Becoming a foster parent? Adopting a child? Helping your neighbor who is a single parent? Becoming a Big Brother or Sister?) and they aren't obeying His call, they're turning their back on God's plan.

If God is leading us in a particular direction and we aren't listening, it doesn't matter if a million other kids are being raised around us.
The good Samaritan story (Luk 10:30-37) seemed to show us part of that you´ve mentioned.


Luk 10:25 An expert in the Law of Moses stood up and asked Jesus a question to see what he would say. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to have eternal life?"
Luk 10:26 Jesus answered, "What is written in the Scriptures? How do you understand them?"
Luk 10:27 The man replied, "The Scriptures say, 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.' They also say, 'Love your neighbors as much as you love yourself.' "
Luk 10:28 Jesus said, "You have given the right answer. If you do this, you will have eternal life."
Luk 10:29 But the man wanted to show that he knew what he was talking about. So he asked Jesus, "Who are my neighbors?"
 

Liamson

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ManyPeople in the world have a variety of different reasons as to why Can't be Single. I could list a thousand different reasons and every single one has some validity. Some of the most popular reasons here in the World seem to be: fear, hurt, rejection, can't find the right person (or any person), wanting to concentrate on other things right now (career, raising children, etc.), and believing that Being Single has more negative outcomes than positive.



“A certain man gave a great supper and invited many, and sent his servant at supper time to say to those who were invited, ‘Come, for all things are now ready.’ But they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I have bought a piece of ground, and I must go and see it. I ask you to have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I am going to test them. I ask you to have me excused.’ Still another said, ‘I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.’ So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in here the poor and the maimed and the lame and the blind.’ And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still there is room.’ Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. For I say to you that none of those men who were invited shall taste my supper.’ Luke 14


 
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ELECT

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There is a reason why God choose to make Adam first then Eve
lonliness is a teacher thus Adam learn alot alone before he got Eve
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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I'm certainly not saying that all of us are called to marry and/or have kids.

I myself don't fit this bill as well. Some of us may very well be called to be single, isolated, and childless (which is what I consider myself to be), with no immediate, if ever, plan to change that. I've reached a point in my life where I cherish my freedom and it would take probably both heaven and earth to convince me to give it up.

And that's absolutely fine, as long as I'm not disobeying God in choosing to remain so.

What I was pondering for myself today is whether I'm just choosing what seems to be the easiest or most convenient answer and not necessarily God's will. What seems to us to be the shiniest, happiest, most beneficial situation is not always God's will.

I'm in the process of a personal reality check. And I was wondering if anyone else ever wondered the same.

P.S. Love the gifs, Still!!! :D
 
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I disbelive, some readers here, will agree with this:

Eze 24:16 "Ezekiel, son of man, I will suddenly take the life of the person you love most. But I don't want you to complain or cry.
 

Lynx

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seoulsearch I don't know how things are over where you are, but where I am there is no shortage of married people with kids in my church. That's part of the reason I'm still single - all the ladies are already taken. :-/

And in response to your OP, it sounds almost like you are saying one should actively seek a spouse for the sole purpose of adopting a child. Or adopt one anyway. A single woman adopting a child might fly, but there's a bit of a stigma these days that would influence a single guy trying to adopt a child...


But if we should find a spouse, so we can adopt a child... hmm... well, what are you doing Saturday night? Wanna go out? ;)
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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seoulsearch I don't know how things are over where you are, but where I am there is no shortage of married people with kids in my church. That's part of the reason I'm still single - all the ladies are already taken. :-/

And in response to your OP, it sounds almost like you are saying one should actively seek a spouse for the sole purpose of adopting a child. Or adopt one anyway. A single woman adopting a child might fly, but there's a bit of a stigma these days that would influence a single guy trying to adopt a child...


But if we should find a spouse, so we can adopt a child... hmm... well, what are you doing Saturday night? Wanna go out? ;)
You bring the bread and the chocolate, and I'll bring... Um... I'll bring... My appetite? D'oh. Maybe this is why all my Saturday nights are free. (I could, however, take you Clubbing. Sam's Clubbing, that is. ;))

I've had an extremely long week and it's only Tuesday. I had all these thoughts jumbled in my head, tried to make an outline and write them out, and apparently did a lousy job of it.

ServantStrike really caught a good part of what I was trying to say but there were several elements to my line of thought. Some of the things I was asking myself were:

1. What would have happened to me if I had been adopted by a non-Christian, or even gay couple?

2. I'm single, Christian, childless, and intending to stay that way. A part of my own mind says, "Procreation and child-rearing aren't part of my calling. That's for OTHER people...." But if we're all saying that... How many Christian couples are left to have, adopt, or raise children?

Just some things I was thinking about. And as I said before, being single and childless is FINE if it's ok with God. It's only wrong if we're disobeying something God wants us to do. And I'm certainly not saying we should all run out and take in children in order to be obedient to God.

But as I said before, I'm doing some serious self-reflection and asking God if I need a spiritual tune-up, and maybe even a new direction for my life. I'm looking in the mirror and asking if I'm choosing more of what I want instead of what God wants. (It might not mean HAVING or adopting children. It could just mean that He wants me to look around and help out single moms I know and I've been slow to notice.)

And I was just wondering if anyone else out there ever wonders the same kind of things.
 

Lynx

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Thought never crossed my mind, actually. Almost everyone in my church has already found someone and has kids. Very few single people above the age of 20 or so. Maybe our church should go teach a class in your area on how to find a guy/girl.

And if it's bread and chocolate, it should be buttermilk biscuits and chocolate sauce. Probably with raspberry, raspberry chocolate sauce. Goes very well on buttermilk biscuits. I should know, I ate some just a while ago.
 
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Jacob_Fitzgerald

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Are there still orphanages? I thought the USA had gone all to foster homes and adoption?

1. I couldn’t imagine life or a marriage without tribulation. That’s why I would only marry a stander. Not that God will give me a choice in the matter, but that’s for the best.:D

2. Maybe. We often don’t know why we end up in difficult situations. On occasion I can look back at a certain difficult time in my life and see that the outcome was really good, even though the whole trial was very painful.

3. God calls each person to that which he has appointed unto them. I know, so obvious, but I didn’t know what else to say.:eek:


The happy-ever-after-story, I’ll take it….. um… …. what is happy-ever-after…..?
All too often I have set my desire upon something or some position in life and sought after it diligently. Only to reach that goal and find that I don’t like it, and it wasn’t satisfying. So, I quite doing that and instead I trust in the Lord to give me those things which he considers good. Often enough when he gives me something new, I look at it from afar and make excuses like it’s too difficult, I don’t want to do that, it’s just not me. But like a loving Father he gently takes my hand and leads me into it. It amazes me how gentle he really is with me even when I dig my heels in and resist with all my strength. After he has brought me into this new gift, whether it is a task or any of the numerous gifts which he gives his children, I quickly find that I like it. In fact I find that what he has given me is far better than I imagined existed. I also find some satisfaction in these gifts. I think it is because during those times I know that I am right where I am supposed to be.

So, I trust the Lord to write my happy-ever-after-story, even if it looks bad from afar and even if it is a rocky road at the onset.:)
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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^^^ Thanks for torturing me, Lynx. :)

Actually, another huge influence on what I was trying to communicate here was the raging war in the Step Up thread regarding who wins and loses in marriage.

Now of course, I agree that sin, society, and human flaws have greatly eroded God's original plan for marriage for BOTH genders.

However, what I kept thinking about was that the basic line of thought in those arguments was, "But... Marriage just doesn't have any benefits left FOR ME." Notice where the emphasis seems to be.

And I was just wondering what God would have to say in reply when our greatest concern regarding marriage is what's in it for us.