He promised me a baby, but lied

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StevieNicole

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Thank you for the kind words. I am looking deep in my heart trying to forgive him. He says we can work towards marriage, so i feel thats making it easier...however i told him his words don't mean anything anymore since hes lied. hes going to have to show some action and show it soon. So we are trying to communicate better and hopefully once our relationship advances to the next level the baby conversion will happen again, he said we can talk about it at a later date, so i guess time will tell, i just dont know how much more time i can give this. Ive given him 4.5 years, i told him as much as i hate to put atime frame on things, he has 6 months to figure it out, he either wants me or not, and he is not allowed to have me as just his girlfriend anymore, im not comfortable continuing to live our life this way... house together, kid together, bills, responsibilities together and all, but no commitment of marriage yet, its not ok anymore.
 
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live4faith

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I've not read all the replies, I apologize. My opinion? Regardless if you are married or not, you can not change someone's outlook on family and children. Forcing it actually does the opposite. If this man is a seeker of God, first and foremost, it is likely that he will want to marry you, and make it right in the eyes of The Lord. As for future children, that comes with God's will... not our own.
Hope this helps. And more importantly, I hope you seek God in this matter. Be blessed. <3
 
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Blackson

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Question for you... Did Adam and Eve have a Marriage Certificate? Or was it o.k. because God made Eve for Adam? And then what about all those that followed back in the beginning? Just wondering that's all.
The thing here is not a written certificate my dear. The Bible teaches and requires us Christians to follow its principles for marriage and sex life. Hebrews 13:4 says that marriage should be honoured and bed be undefiled. Having sex before you get married is like putting the cart before the horses.
The horse should pull the cart, not the other way round. Most of the times the end results of such relationships is what our beloved sister complains here. The man has even come to the extent of saying that marriage is pointless. I do not blame him though. How many people have ended up in such situations today in our communities?
 

RickyZ

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Thank you for the kind words. I am looking deep in my heart trying to forgive him. He says we can work towards marriage, so i feel thats making it easier...however i told him his words don't mean anything anymore since hes lied. hes going to have to show some action and show it soon. So we are trying to communicate better and hopefully once our relationship advances to the next level the baby conversion will happen again, he said we can talk about it at a later date, so i guess time will tell, i just dont know how much more time i can give this. Ive given him 4.5 years, i told him as much as i hate to put atime frame on things, he has 6 months to figure it out, he either wants me or not, and he is not allowed to have me as just his girlfriend anymore, im not comfortable continuing to live our life this way... house together, kid together, bills, responsibilities together and all, but no commitment of marriage yet, its not ok anymore.
Once upon a time there was a frog who was about to cross a river. A scorpion appeared and asked the frog to carry it across. "You're a scorpion, you'll sting me and we'll both drown" said the frog. But the scorpion assured the frog that he would not do such a thing. So the frog said ok, hop on. And across the river they started.

Halfway across the river the scorpion stung the frog. "Why did you do that?" cried the frog, "now we'll both drown!"

To which the scorpion answered, "I'm a scorpion. What else could you expect from me?"
 
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souljahblyndslym

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souljahblyndslym

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Im in desperate need for advice. I have been with my boyfriend for four and a half years. We have a 3 year old child together. We didn't plan the pregnancy, it was a surprise, but we actually made things work, he bought us a house and we started a life together. He always knew i wanted to get married and have more children. I waited for the proposal and after 3 and a half years of nothing i brought up that i needed to be married and have more children in order to be fulfilled in life, and that i wanted this with him. He said he throught marriage was pointless but he would do it anyway someday and he didn't want a big family, he said he never wanted our first one, so why would he want more? After months of back and forth discussion he agreed we could have one more child and that was it. I was so happy, we set a date we would start trying to conceive, talked about how we were going to do things different this time, planned financially and everything. From the moment he told me we could have another child and we set a date to try and conceive, the image of that baby we were going to have grew in my heart. I even told our 3 year old that he was going to be a big brother some day and mommy was going to have a baby in her belly for Christmas.... well the day before we were suppose to start trying to conceive he told me its not happening anymore. He doesn't want it. I am devastated. The image of this baby grew in my heart and i was just waiting for the time WE agreed on to have it start growing in my belly. He says he doesn't care about his promise, he doesn't want it anymore and thats that. I feel like he killed something in me. I am completely broken inside and feel like i have already suffered the loss of this child because the image of this child we were suppose to have was in my heart and i dont know if i can ever forgive him. What do i do? I want to leave because i dont think i can ever trust him again nor do i feel like my life will be complete without a second child, but he is a good father to our 3 year old. I just keep hearing from him and his family "why can't you just be thankful for what you have?" And believe me, i am , but i dont see why me wanting to be someone's wife and giving my son a sibling is labeled ungratefu? .... help?
Those bolded parts are a bit troubling I feel for ya you gotta bunch of feelings you need too sort out. A lot of people young and old tend to place or base their happiness on others and it never fulfills them. You get it and then you want another cause it wasn't lasting as long as you wanted. Don't think a second child will fulfill your life it will bring a temporary happiness but it will wear off sooner or later and kids are not a source solely for happiness, in other words yes kids bring moments of joy that last a while maybe a few a lifetime but too base off that alone you will find yourself more unhappy in life. I challenge you to rethink things who are you? and who is responsible for your happiness?
 

karen0123

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Ahh the gift of compassion...







We are all in desperate need of each other’s prayers. Without your prayer many are going to be lost to us!. I will always pray for you, and your family and friends.




 
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honeybee

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my husband died and I will never get over him.
 

DiscipleDave

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Those bolded parts are a bit troubling I feel for ya you gotta bunch of feelings you need too sort out. A lot of people young and old tend to place or base their happiness on others and it never fulfills them. You get it and then you want another cause it wasn't lasting as long as you wanted. Don't think a second child will fulfill your life it will bring a temporary happiness but it will wear off sooner or later and kids are not a source solely for happiness, in other words yes kids bring moments of joy that last a while maybe a few a lifetime but too base off that alone you will find yourself more unhappy in life. I challenge you to rethink things who are you? and who is responsible for your happiness?
A child gets a teddy bear for birthday, the child loves that bear, takes the bear everywhere, sleeps with the bear, eats with the bear and plays with the bear. The child and bear are inseparable. Now to that child that bear is EVERYTHING, it is what makes that child happy, it is what that child believes will make them happy. Take that bear away from that child and it will feel like the end of the world to that child, they will be devastated, hurt, and crushed. But we as adults know that the bear is nothing compared to the Big Picture. We know that the bear is but a temporary happiness, not a lasting happiness.

Likewise:

An adult gets a husband and kids, the adult loves that husband and her kids, takes care of the husband and kids, sleeps with the husband, cooks for and eats with the Husband and her kids and works and vacations with the family. The adult and her family are inseparable. Now to that adult that Family is EVERYTHING, it is what makes that adult happy, it is what that adult believes will make her happy. Take that family away from that adult and it will feel like the end of the world to that adult, she will be devastated, hurt, and crushed. But we as Spiritual know that the husband and kids is nothing compared to the Big Picture. We know that the family is but a temporary happiness, not a lasting happiness.

The Big Picture, is Where you spend eternity at. A lasting happiness is Jesus Christ inside of your heart.

i will tell you the Truth, even as a kid i wanted a family, a house with a white picked fence, and a garden, and kids running around and a wife who would love me. i married, it lasted ten years, and i was most unhappy. i have now been celibate for over 6 years now, and i am telling you the God's honest Truth, i have never been more happy in my entire life.
What i thought would make me happy was wrong, i thought having a family and kids, and a good job and a nice house, that that would make me happy. It did not make me happy. Jesus inside of my heart, has changed me. i am now happy. i do not desire to have someone, i never feel alone, or even lonely, and it is because of Him. i am content, and have a peace that surpasses all understanding, not because it is something that i have done, saving only that i realized that all i need is Jesus and nothing else, but is because of what He has done inside of me. i will tell you the Truth. Those who try to find happiness in ANYTHING other than Jesus Christ and His LOVE, will never find it. But when a person Truly finds happiness in Jesus Christ, they realize that EVERYTHING that they thought would make them happy (Husband, wife, kids, lands, Great Job, more money, bigger house, better car, bigger boobs, less weight, ANYTHING that YOU THINK will make you happy) is nothing but a teddy bear to that little child. Its when you realize that it is not the bear that makes you happy, and that happiness comes from within a persons heart, is when you can grow spiritually and then you will know what it means to be Truly Happy, even during the most trying of times here and now on the Earth.
 

fdpa24

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I would encourage you to sit down with him and tell him how you feel and also to get into some marriage counseling and both of you to pray about this
 
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sunburn

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There is a growing misconception among women that a man that sleep with you and have kids with you and marry you, wants you in his life.
Unfortunately.

You belong to a man when he calls you BONE OF MY BONE, FLESH OF MY FLESH.
If the man you are sleeping with, married with, have kids with, cannot say those words to himself, to you, to society and to God, you are NOTHING to him.

Marriage is not a fantasy. Is not a piece of paper. it is a commitment before God and Men to do things the right way with the correct state of mind. to bear children in the respect of that commitment.

There is no commitment between this man and you.
You slept with him. you became pregnant. He felt pressured to live with you to play house for the sake of an ideal that never existed in the first place. Now in a relationship two people need to agree so they can work smoothely together.
Emotionnally coercing him to give you a kid so you can have the life you have always dreamed of is utterly naieve and selfish way to live.
What about him? sure he falls short on his own responsibilities towards you but if the life you always wanted was really your concern and great purpose in the first place, you would have never got yourself in that position in the first place.
Seems to me you are trying to find him responsible to make you happy and take you where you want to be in life.
He never promised you marriage, didn't want the first kid, now is showing you, he doesn't even want this life you want.

Why continue to decieve yourself?
You don't even need to say you don't trust him, he is asking you not to count on him. it is just a matter of time when he mans up and faces his own shortcoming and God knows what he would do...will he leave or force you to leave him...

Now if you are on a hristian website, I assume, you want a christian outlook.
Let God heal your wounds and pray for yourself, your child and your boyfriend.
Ask God to put you in the right state of mind and give you direction.
Asking how to fogive him after being hurt is not the most important question.
 
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sunburn

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Thank you for the kind words. I am looking deep in my heart trying to forgive him. He says we can work towards marriage, so i feel thats making it easier...however i told him his words don't mean anything anymore since hes lied. hes going to have to show some action and show it soon. So we are trying to communicate better and hopefully once our relationship advances to the next level the baby conversion will happen again, he said we can talk about it at a later date, so i guess time will tell, i just dont know how much more time i can give this. Ive given him 4.5 years, i told him as much as i hate to put atime frame on things, he has 6 months to figure it out, he either wants me or not, and he is not allowed to have me as just his girlfriend anymore, im not comfortable continuing to live our life this way... house together, kid together, bills, responsibilities together and all, but no commitment of marriage yet, its not ok anymore.
Remember "marriage" can give you a status. the satisfaction that outsiders can see and call you married. but Marriage cannot give you a guarantee. Only God who search the heart of Men, can tell whether your marriage is a solid one. If there is a commitment at all.
My point is you want a marriage that is solid before God. Otherwise, him marrying you is just another piece of paper.
 

Atwood

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I apologize, for I am not a Bible scholar. Today we live in much different society than the O.T....where in those days you went into someone's tent without any ceremony and were considered married. Sorry, I don't have a specific verse. But men also had several wives back then too and it was acceptable to God back then, apparently. Very different times. I always thought fornicating was random sex or one night stand type of sex...not someone you love and live with and have children with, someone who is "like" a husband in every way but the piece of paper. But I suppose that topic is up for a whole other debate.

I would not dignify fornication by calling it "love." Eros is not agape. Agape love is not shacking up.

Acceptable to God? Where does scripture say that? I would not go assuming things about the past without proof. In general the history of man is set forth in Romans 1, how men refused to have God in mind, & we given up to a reprobate mind to do sinful activities.
 

Atwood

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"Working towards marriage?"

LOL.

I can see someone dropping a pencil on the floor. Another person comes into the room & says, "Why don't you pick up the pencil?"

Answer: "I'm working towards it" (yawn).
 
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kennethcadwell

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1 Corinthians 7:36

But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.