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Why not, He created sex. Here is what He says about sex between a man and wife...
Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Gen 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
You think sex embarrasses God? He designed and created it and then gave the rules to use it properly. When used in the confines of marriage, God blesses it.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Gen 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
You think sex embarrasses God? He designed and created it and then gave the rules to use it properly. When used in the confines of marriage, God blesses it.
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Granted Jews often refer to Songs at times of marriage, however, Bullinger (Companion Bible) has by far the best study of Songs. He actually explains who is who and the meanings of some of the Hebraisms. The Hebrew in the Bible was never really concerned with what things actually looked like. Physical descriptions had other meanings. One can easily see the King (old Covenant), the Beloved (New Covenant) and the maiden. So you can read Songs as a very lively and descriptive story about the love The Lord has for His people. After all the Messiah is referred to as the 'bridegroom'. The Jews are the 'apple' of His eye...'engraved' upon His hand. Really good commentary.
No, pornography is written for "entertainment." Song of Solomon was not written with the intention of causing arousal. It is simply romantic poetry which conveys the relationship of marriage as intended by God. To be honest, Songs is very tame in its language compared to other parts of the Old Testament which deal with the subject explicitly and unashamedly.
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We know that the old testament is scripture because Jesus quoted from every book except Song of Solomon, which was often found among the scriptures. I can see God putting it in there. A husband and wife are very intimate physically speaking. And since that relationship spiritually represents Christ and His Bride (the church), it is therefore a nessesary example. It also promotes sexual health for married couples.
Song of Solomon is not the only place in the bible that talks about sex. In Proverbs 5:19 God commands husbands to enjoy their wife's breasts. God made sex. Sex is a very good thing the way that God intended it to be. And He says it's not good for man to be alone.
Song of Solomon is not the only place in the bible that talks about sex. In Proverbs 5:19 God commands husbands to enjoy their wife's breasts. God made sex. Sex is a very good thing the way that God intended it to be. And He says it's not good for man to be alone.
One either has a spiritual mind when reading Song of Solomon or they have a carnal mind or approach to reading it. In other words, you have to seek the spiritual meaning and not drag your mind thru the gutter when reading this book. Check out some good commentaries on it and pray about it before going to the skeptics who do not even believe the Bible.
10"I was a wall, and my breasts were like towers; Then I became in his eyes as one who finds peace. 11"Solomon had a vineyardat Baal-hamon; He entrusted the vineyard to caretakers. Each one was to bring a thousand shekels of silver for its fruit
How beautiful are your feet in sandals, O noble daughter! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. Your navel is a rounded bowl that never lacks mixed wine. Your belly is a heap of wheat, encircled with lilies. Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are pools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bath-rabbim. Your nose is like a tower of Lebanon, which looks toward Damascus. Your head crowns you like Carmel, and your flowing locks are like purple; a king is held captive in the tresses.
Where's the " spiritual meaning " here... about said church...
I believe the Bible, but this book has lust of a woman written all over it... not " love " of said woman... and why solomon, why would we want to hear from solomon... After YAHWEH told him to stop!! with all the wives, ....... So please show me any where that Jesus referred back to this book, Jesus talked about virgins with lamps, not prostitutes with false gods....
How beautiful are your feet in sandals, O noble daughter! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. Your navel is a rounded bowl that never lacks mixed wine. Your belly is a heap of wheat, encircled with lilies. Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are pools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bath-rabbim. Your nose is like a tower of Lebanon, which looks toward Damascus. Your head crowns you like Carmel, and your flowing locks are like purple; a king is held captive in the tresses.
Where's the " spiritual meaning " here... about said church...
I believe the Bible, but this book has lust of a woman written all over it... not " love " of said woman... and why solomon, why would we want to hear from solomon... After YAHWEH told him to stop!! with all the wives, ....... So please show me any where that Jesus referred back to this book, Jesus talked about virgins with lamps, not prostitutes with false gods....
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One spiritual meaning... I was watching tv one time, and these scientists were doing an experiment. Long story short, they discovered that people with symmetrical body parts, especially in the face, were more attractive to the opposite sex, even though they couldn't pinpoint what it was about them. But more than that, that it was a sign. That people who were more symmetric were healthier and produced healthier babies.
Christ's Bride (the church) also has a symmetrical sign that she is perfect- spiritually more beautiful, spiritually the healthiest, and spiritually produces what is right and good. The semmetrical twin sides are the old and new testaments. In the new testament we spiritually do exactly what was done physically in the old testament. For example, in the O.T. a physically perfect lamb was sacrificed, and in the N.T. the spiritually perfect Lamb (of God) was sacrificed. In the old testament David fought physical battles, but in the N.T. our battles are spiritual (Ephesians 6). If someone comes up with a new testament meaning that does not match a physical example in the O.T., that is a clear sign that it comes from a false, man made church, and not Christ's genuine church.
Also, it shows that there's two sides, not one. some people try to make the old and new covenants one. They say we are under both. But the bible says we need to rightly divide the word of truth- O.T. And N.T.- not one testament. To be under Moses and Christ is wrong (Romans 7:1-4).
Christ's Bride (the church) also has a symmetrical sign that she is perfect- spiritually more beautiful, spiritually the healthiest, and spiritually produces what is right and good. The semmetrical twin sides are the old and new testaments. In the new testament we spiritually do exactly what was done physically in the old testament. For example, in the O.T. a physically perfect lamb was sacrificed, and in the N.T. the spiritually perfect Lamb (of God) was sacrificed. In the old testament David fought physical battles, but in the N.T. our battles are spiritual (Ephesians 6). If someone comes up with a new testament meaning that does not match a physical example in the O.T., that is a clear sign that it comes from a false, man made church, and not Christ's genuine church.
Also, it shows that there's two sides, not one. some people try to make the old and new covenants one. They say we are under both. But the bible says we need to rightly divide the word of truth- O.T. And N.T.- not one testament. To be under Moses and Christ is wrong (Romans 7:1-4).
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Ok, you know that Jesus used Old Testament verses, so why didn't He use this book,
" it's a whole book " never mentioned in the NT not 1 time, matter a fact God is not mentioned 1 time in S.O.S neither the church... So when one says " it's about the church ", this is nothing but speculation and opinions, the book wasn't part of the early Bible until the 2nd century ...
As for law.... I never said anything about 613 laws of Moses ... I talk about the commandments, if we love Him we will keep them, the law is a teacher, then when we live and walk in the Spirit...
Against such there is no law..
" it's a whole book " never mentioned in the NT not 1 time, matter a fact God is not mentioned 1 time in S.O.S neither the church... So when one says " it's about the church ", this is nothing but speculation and opinions, the book wasn't part of the early Bible until the 2nd century ...
As for law.... I never said anything about 613 laws of Moses ... I talk about the commandments, if we love Him we will keep them, the law is a teacher, then when we live and walk in the Spirit...
Against such there is no law..
Both David and Paul repented showing so in scripture, show me one verse with solomons name repenting...
No such thing..
It's just not there, all speculation.. As for David and Paul's sins, there's no book
" the acts of David's murder " or a book highlighting Paul's crimes... Instead you see Paul very sorry for what he had done, David the same...
If some get something out of it... So be it, If the book was there or not, no substance or significance to me.
No such thing..
It's just not there, all speculation.. As for David and Paul's sins, there's no book
" the acts of David's murder " or a book highlighting Paul's crimes... Instead you see Paul very sorry for what he had done, David the same...
If some get something out of it... So be it, If the book was there or not, no substance or significance to me.
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I believe Solomon was saved for several reasons according to Scripture.
See this thread here:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/105157-solomon-saved.html
As for the Book of the Song of Solomon being a part of the Bible: Well, it's not up for debate. It's already in your Bible. Unless of course you want to tear it out or something --- which would be taking away from God's Word (Which is forbidden for us to do as a part of the warning in Revelation). Yes, I am aware of that warning in Revelation can be a reference to the book of Revelation. But I also believe it is in reference to the entirety of the Scriptures as a whole. To see my explanation on this point, please check out my OP (Original Post) in this thread here:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100040-biblical-defense-sola-scriptura.html
Anyways, what really fascinates me is the chronology of the Song of Solomon. I believe this article offers a good proposed fit for when Song of Solomon was written.
http://www.rakkav.com/song/pages/song06.htm
See this thread here:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/105157-solomon-saved.html
As for the Book of the Song of Solomon being a part of the Bible: Well, it's not up for debate. It's already in your Bible. Unless of course you want to tear it out or something --- which would be taking away from God's Word (Which is forbidden for us to do as a part of the warning in Revelation). Yes, I am aware of that warning in Revelation can be a reference to the book of Revelation. But I also believe it is in reference to the entirety of the Scriptures as a whole. To see my explanation on this point, please check out my OP (Original Post) in this thread here:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/100040-biblical-defense-sola-scriptura.html
Anyways, what really fascinates me is the chronology of the Song of Solomon. I believe this article offers a good proposed fit for when Song of Solomon was written.
http://www.rakkav.com/song/pages/song06.htm
Yea, what you believe and what is written is two different stories Jason, I'm sorry friend but I really do think your wrong here.. Solomons name is never mentioned, it alludes to him writing it, but solomon is never mentioned.. As you said, it says a wise king of Israel, but it doesn't say solomon by name, why wouldn't he be screaming out saying how sorry he was, show me where HE does so, or repents and sends all the prostitutes away with their gods... Just one verse, as for Jesus talking about him, makes no difference, he talked about hell and sinners a lot as well... No connection brother, people try to connect dots with their own mind, where scripture says nothing of the like...
What scripture does say is that the tribes were split, solomon slaved the Israelites, he worshipped false gods, and rebelled until he was old and grey... and there's nothing in scripture that says other wise...
What scripture does say is that the tribes were split, solomon slaved the Israelites, he worshipped false gods, and rebelled until he was old and grey... and there's nothing in scripture that says other wise...