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Rupert Murdoch: All Muslims must be held responsible for French attacks
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It already is. You must practice your religion (a given secular right) at no detriment to another's secular rights.
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kennethcadwell
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It is not a straw man argument.....
If you want to contend that all Muslims are guilty of what the Islamic radicalists who misuse that religion for their terrible acts of violence. Then you must consider yourself guilty for all the terribly acts that others have done in the name of Christianity. Just like those who preach a hate gospel toward others while standing on the street corners, spewing hate garbage at others for what they do. You are guilty for their actions, as they are doing it in the name of Christianity.
Sorry but that does not fly with me !!!
My goodness, here we have another fine example of unrestricted paranoia. It's exceptionally weak to shut down a valid argument by crying victim. Trap you into what? Reason? Sense? Rational, logical thought?
Mitspa asserts every Muslim m is responsible for the crimes of the few. If that's the case, then it logically follows that the same can be applied to any number of people we can group together with a common trait. Remember that blonde guy Anders Brevik that shot all the people in that school? ALL BLONDE PEOPLE ARE MASS MURDERERS! Remember that cop on the news that killed the black kid? ALL COPS ARE BLACK MURDERERS! Remember that Inquisitiion that happened? ALL BIBLE BELIEVERS ARE TORTURING SADISTS!
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You guys are bringing up the salem witch trials nazi germany and the green river killer while muslims are teaching their children to kill the 'zionists' with bomb belts TODAY. Pretty funny stuff really.
No, Sirk. It isn't funny at all. It's funny to you because you care more about winning the forum's approval by making yourself look nonchalant in front of your friends than you do about actually making the world a better place. Only an absolute moron could think that blaming a billion people for the crimes of a few could ever work out well.
You'll no doubt reply some victim-mentality argument ''oh well no need to be so aggressive'' or ''you're showing yourself to be this or that right now, I refuse to discuss''. Petty, and besides the point. You're absolutely wrong to assume every Muslim is responsible for these crimes.
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Your reasoning IS... pretty funny stuff really. I'm just guessing but having people who want to kill you over for tea to talk out your differences is gonna be a fruitless effort. I am however, not gonna resort to name calling or placing a stake in the moral high ground as you have done in your own mind.
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Mitspa
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Yea well lets see if we can get them to show us this evil Christian strawman that we need to stop killing people TODAY?
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Sirk
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They gotta go back 500 years to make their hole riddled reasoning bucket hold any water...and even then it gets empty.
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Mitspa
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No don't support in any way...anyone who does evil and if I knowingly allowed such things I would expect I would be held responsible for my support.
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Mitspa
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Oh yea your being very logical...where are they teaching blonde kids to kill people? Who is teaching the kids and giving them money to train? Who is dancing in the streets when they murder others...yes if they are such people we should for sure go after them. And stop them whatever it takes.
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kennethcadwell
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Well you say you want to blame all Muslims for the acts of the Islamic radicalists.
Then you as a Christian need to take the blame and say you are just as guilty, as those who stand out on the street corners in groups holding signs bashing others and preaching a hate gospel in the name of Christianity.
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Mitspa
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I said we should treat these people and this movement the same way we did the Nazis...
and Im not guilty of supporting anyone who does such things in the name of anyone....Im a righteous man who upholds Gods ways and His justice against the evildoers of this world.
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How quick you are to condemn...No one is innocent, including you. War is not the answer, nor is hate, nor is blame. Those roads all lead to atrocity.
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kennethcadwell
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Well then you do double talk again.
For you want to blame all of them, when not all of them are guilty. But when it comes to our own religion you don't want to take the blame for what other Christians have done wrongfully in the name of Christ.
So I see the blame game for you only works when you are doing it to others, and not when it is reversed back on you.
It doesn't work that way my brother, so sorry. You must take the blame of bad Christians, or not blame all Muslims.
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JakeyRue
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and please don't tell me It aint if u got no understanding on it please the good muslims and there are many are the ones tht blow the karan off
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AgeofKnowledge
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But this doesn't though:
Mohammed And the Unbelievers : a political life (Islamic trilogy series, v.1): Bill Warner, Cspi: 9780978552893: Amazon.com: Books
^ No fluff in this one, just good old genocide, democide, raiding, torture, deception, slavery, assassinations, treachery, etc...
Hard to believe it all began with a poor orphan who's tribe rejected him for leadership because he was too weak and unbalanced which left him so disgruntled he retreated into a cave to sulk where in his self-pity the idea came to him to fabricate a false religious cult to change his fortunes... which would have gotten nowhere except the world is full of fools.
Mohammed And the Unbelievers : a political life (Islamic trilogy series, v.1): Bill Warner, Cspi: 9780978552893: Amazon.com: Books
^ No fluff in this one, just good old genocide, democide, raiding, torture, deception, slavery, assassinations, treachery, etc...
Hard to believe it all began with a poor orphan who's tribe rejected him for leadership because he was too weak and unbalanced which left him so disgruntled he retreated into a cave to sulk where in his self-pity the idea came to him to fabricate a false religious cult to change his fortunes... which would have gotten nowhere except the world is full of fools.