JOSEPH PRINCE (of this world) FALSE SPIRIT EXPOSED

[Mitspa]

If you deny that He convicts us through the Holy Spirit when we sin, then you deny clear cut scripture.
To say this scripture is false is wrong, as all scripture is inspired by God. If you do not get corrected when you sin then you do not have the Holy Spirit guiding you, as this scripture makes it clear that if you are not chastised/convicted/corrected then you are not sons......

No where in the bible does it teach the Holy Spirit convicts a believer of sin...that's what SATAN (the accuser) wants believers to think ....

Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Well the strength of sin is the law...nothing can help those under the law they are slaves to sin. I hope you are a son Kenneth?

Well all I can tell you is in that passage He says sons.
Those called His sons are not unbelievers, as they are born again believers in Him that walk in light. But even as sons we slip up from time to time, and when we do He convicts us for correction through the Holy Spirit. Leading us to confess that sin and turn away from it, to receive His remission for it.
He is saying here that if you sin as one of His sons, if you don't feel His chastising for correction then you are not truly His sons......You are illegitimate !!!

I pray those listening right now that if they believe themselves to be born again believers but do not feel His correcting in their lives to go to God in prayer tonight and ask for His guidance.

 

[Kerry]

If you want fill a basketball arena with people, you must provide excitement or tell them what they want to hear. Tell them that they are great, tell them that no matter what God loves them (and is true) tell them stories from people you know and never ever preach the word of God, do not mention passages and verses. Just tell them it's okay and you to will be wealthy above your dreams,

But to wealthy and preach thus saith Lord is a different thing, Most are not and most struggle with finances. It not a popular thing to preach the cross. The cross is offensive and in our politically correct society it is a hate message and the opposite is the truth.

Why do Pastors speak out against a homo lifestyle? because they know that it hurts Americans. Do we hate Homo's no, we hate Homosexuality, why, because it hurts America.

Accepting Homos as Osteen doe's promotes homosexuality, well the church is okay with it so why not. What are you teaching your children? would you enjoy a homosexual child?

 

[kennethcadwell]

No where in the bible does it teach the Holy Spirit convicts a believer of sin...that's what SATAN (the accuser) wants believers to think ....

Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

How do you thing the Lord chastises His sons ????


Then once again you take and highlight Hebrews 10:17 which is true, but you can not cancel out repentance and confession that comes before to receive remission of those sins. Then after they have been covered after you repented or confessed them are they never remembered no more........

 

[kennethcadwell]

If you want fill a basketball arena with people, you must provide excitement or tell them what they want to hear. Tell them that they are great, tell them that no matter what God loves them (and is true) tell them stories from people you know and never ever preach the word of God, do not mention passages and verses. Just tell them it's okay and you to will be wealthy above your dreams,

But to wealthy and preach thus saith Lord is a different thing, Most are not and most struggle with finances. It not a popular thing to preach the cross. The cross is offensive and in our politically correct society it is a hate message and the opposite is the truth.

Why do Pastors speak out against a homo lifestyle? because they know that it hurts Americans. Do we hate Homo's no, we hate Homosexuality, why, because it hurts America.

Accepting Homos as Osteen doe's promotes homosexuality, well the church is okay with it so why not. What are you teaching your children? would you enjoy a homosexual child?

We show love to people who live a homosexual lifestyle, but we also preach to them God's love so that through His love they can see they are living a life contrary to God and turn from it. If they then choose to continue to live in that lifestyle then it will lead them to spiritual death, and not eternal life. This is why through love we help others as we are called to do. Not through hatred, but through love.

 

[Kerry]

We show love to people who live a homosexual lifestyle, but we also preach to them God's love so that through His love they can see they are living a life contrary to God and turn from it. If they then choose to continue to live in that lifestyle then it will lead them to spiritual death, and not eternal life. This is why through love we help others as we are called to do. Not through hatred, but through love.

But should we as a nation condone such life style?

 

[kennethcadwell]

But should we as a nation condone such life style?

As a nation made up of different people, nationalities, religions, lifestyles; unfortunately that call does not fall just on us.
We can stand up as Christians and show by not voting in favor of it, that we do not support it. Because if you do support it by voting yes, then the bible says you make yourself just as guilty of that sin.
The problem is say 5,000 Christians show up at the poll and vote no, but 6,000 other people from other groups vote yes. Then it still will become law, and then the next step will be it will get infringed on our rights as businesses can not show discrimination...

 

[damombomb]

[video=youtube_share;h2c0SbFim6w]http://youtu.be/h2c0SbFim6w[/video]

Here is a very good video

 

[breno785au]

Why do Pastors speak out against a homo lifestyle? because they know that it hurts Americans. Do we hate Homo's no, we hate Homosexuality, why, because it hurts America.

Accepting Homos as Osteen doe's promotes homosexuality, well the church is okay with it so why not. What are you teaching your children? would you enjoy a homosexual child?

Why target homosexuality exclusively like that?
It's not the job of a preacher to stand behind the pulpit and tell us what to think and do each time we gather.

 

[JGIG]

If you deny that He convicts us through the Holy Spirit when we sin, then you deny clear cut scripture.
To say this scripture is false is wrong, as all scripture is inspired by God. If you do not get corrected when you sin then you do not have the Holy Spirit guiding you, as this scripture makes it clear that if you are not chastised/convicted/corrected then you are not sons......

Correction is not scourging. Did you read the article?

Hebrews 12:6 Does God Scourge His Kids?

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

If you want fill a basketball arena with people, you must provide excitement or tell them what they want to hear. Tell them that they are great, tell them that no matter what God loves them (and is true) tell them stories from people you know and never ever preach the word of God, do not mention passages and verses. Just tell them it's okay and you to will be wealthy above your dreams,

But to wealthy and preach thus saith Lord is a different thing, Most are not and most struggle with finances. It not a popular thing to preach the cross. The cross is offensive and in our politically correct society it is a hate message and the opposite is the truth.

Why do Pastors speak out against a homo lifestyle? because they know that it hurts Americans. Do we hate Homo's no, we hate Homosexuality, why, because it hurts America.

Accepting Homos as Osteen doe's promotes homosexuality, well the church is okay with it so why not. What are you teaching your children? would you enjoy a homosexual child?

Forgive me for asking an obvious question, but where but in Christ, in the Body of Christ should a homosexual go to become a New Creation?

"Come to me all you who are tired and weary and I will give you rest . . . "

"While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us . . . "

All but homosexuals can come as they are, but homosexuals have to clean up their acts first?

Sheesh.

From Osteen:

Zepps read a piece that he liked from Osteen's new book: "It doesn't matter who likes you or doesn't like you, all that matters is that God likes you. He accepts you, he approves of you." Zepps followed up by asking if that included homosexuals.

"Absolutely," Osteen insisted, "I believe that God breathed life into every person and that every person is made in the image of God and you have accept them as they are, on their journey. I'm not here to preach hate or push people down."
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There is some wisdom in leadership recognizing that many folks coming out of a sinful LIFESTYLE will not immediately shed all that is associated with that lifestyle. Fundamentalism/Evangelicism has a microwave mindset - get saved, here's your list of rules, stop sinning or maybe you really weren't saved, or worse yet, you better fly straight or you'll be cut off.

Thankfully, God, having invested His Blood in the deal is FAR more patient with us than even we ourselves are.

And sinning is sinning is sinning. One could be a thief, a murderer, a rapist, or just an ol' run of the mill liar and cheat, or even sin the sins of pride and arrogance mixed with false humility.

All of those sins were bled and died for at the Cross. The ground is level there, and once received, His salvation is complete (Heb. 7:25).

Why?

Because of Who He is and what He's done, not because of who we are and what we do or do not do. And it's in that atmosphere - of adoption and commitment (sealed unto the day of redemption Eph. 2) of the Blood to your salvation - where one becomes free to act as a son. When one understands who they are in Christ, sinning becomes less and less over time.

I don't care for Osteen, myself; I think he's a bit of a cotton-ball floofy preacher - not a lot of meat. That said, he's got the whole building one another up in love thing down a whole lot better than many, many believers.


-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

How do you thing the Lord chastises His sons ????


Then once again you take and highlight Hebrews 10:17 which is true, but you can not cancel out repentance and confession that comes before to receive remission of those sins. Then after they have been covered after you repented or confessed them are they never remembered no more........

How many times do you suppose that Jesus died for your sins? How are sins forgiven? When were they forgiven? How many times were they forgiven?

Consider this: What does Scripture say about sin and those in Christ?

18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. (from 2 Cor. 5)​

See, under the Law, your sins have to be counted against you. Sin, repent, sacrifice, rinse, and repeat. That's the Old Covenant.

Under Grace, Jesus has taken all of the punishment for your sins - they will never be credited to your account again. I like the way Bob George puts it:

Has God dealt with the sins of the world?

Yes.

How many times did He deal with it?

Once.

Have your sins been judged?

Yes.

Where were they judged?

At the Cross.

What was the verdict?

Guilty.

What was the punishment?

Death.

Who took it?

Jesus.

How much of it?

All of it.

How much is left for you?

None.

(More here: The New Covenant Explained – Study notes available HERE.)​

But if you really feel you must keep track of all your sins and confess them before they can be forgiven, hey, there's an app for that - only $1.99, available for both apple and android: Have You Confessed Your Sins? There’s an App for That.

-JGIG

 

[Mitspa]

Well all I can tell you is in that passage He says sons.
Those called His sons are not unbelievers, as they are born again believers in Him that walk in light. But even as sons we slip up from time to time, and when we do He convicts us for correction through the Holy Spirit. Leading us to confess that sin and turn away from it, to receive His remission for it.
He is saying here that if you sin as one of His sons, if you don't feel His chastising for correction then you are not truly His sons......You are illegitimate !!!

I pray those listening right now that if they believe themselves to be born again believers but do not feel His correcting in their lives to go to God in prayer tonight and ask for His guidance.

Yes His first lesson is always to teach believers to forsake hypocrisy and repentance from dead works...if a believer has not turned from these things you can know that they have not submitted to Gods righteousness but are going about to establish their own.

 

[Mitspa]

How do you thing the Lord chastises His sons ????


Then once again you take and highlight Hebrews 10:17 which is true, but you can not cancel out repentance and confession that comes before to receive remission of those sins. Then after they have been covered after you repented or confessed them are they never remembered no more........

By Grace...it is the grace of God that "teaches" us to deny ungodliness....that's the same word in the Greek . Its the goodness of God that leads to repentance. Never by a spirit of fear and bondage to legalism.

 

[Mitspa]

If you want fill a basketball arena with people, you must provide excitement or tell them what they want to hear. Tell them that they are great, tell them that no matter what God loves them (and is true) tell them stories from people you know and never ever preach the word of God, do not mention passages and verses. Just tell them it's okay and you to will be wealthy above your dreams,

But to wealthy and preach thus saith Lord is a different thing, Most are not and most struggle with finances. It not a popular thing to preach the cross. The cross is offensive and in our politically correct society it is a hate message and the opposite is the truth.

Why do Pastors speak out against a homo lifestyle? because they know that it hurts Americans. Do we hate Homo's no, we hate Homosexuality, why, because it hurts America.

Accepting Homos as Osteen doe's promotes homosexuality, well the church is okay with it so why not. What are you teaching your children? would you enjoy a homosexual child?

You mean like billy grahm?

 

[Mitspa]

Why does it seem like those who cant get other people to come and be a part of their dead religion always get mad at those who have large crowds like Jesus, Peter and Paul had? The reason nobody comes to your dead church and joins your houses of hypocrisy is because folks lives are already hard enough. Jesus came to give us life and life in abundance ...these dead churches wouldn't know Jesus if He walked in and set on their empty front row.

 

[john832]

No where in the bible does it teach the Holy Spirit convicts a believer of sin...that's what SATAN (the accuser) wants believers to think ....

This is almost too easy...

Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
Joh 16:8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: - NKJV

Are your eyes brown?

 

[Mitspa]

This is almost too easy...

Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
Joh 16:8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: - NKJV

Are your eyes brown?

Yea its too easy...read the next verse.. THE WORLD...OF SIN BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE! believers of righteousness..because I go to the Father and you see me no more....Christ is our righteousness and the Holy Spirit convicts the believer that we are righteous in Him.


NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE doe the Holy Spirit convict a believer of sin ...but the exact opposite is taught! The name satan means ACCUSER ...he is the spirit that accuses and he loves these biblically ignorant people who teach this nonsense.


Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

 

[john832]

Yea its too easy...read the next verse.. THE WORLD...OF SIN BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE! believers of righteousness..because I go to the Father and you see me no more....Christ is our righteousness and the Holy Spirit convicts the believer that we are righteous in Him.

Had to add a little there didn't ya? The verse does not have the word 'believers' in it.

Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

It convicts ALL of sin, righteousness and judgment.

NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE doe the Holy Spirit convict a believer of sin ...but the exact opposite is taught! The name satan means ACCUSER ...he is the spirit that accuses and he loves these biblically ignorant people who teach this nonsense.


Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

There is a difference between being convicted and being accused. Apparently you have no convictions.

 

[AzureAfire]

I have been quite interested in expositions of false teachers for quite some time now. This is mainly because I want to become more aware of what we true believers are up against, and to be prepared to contend for our faith, and the Truth that our Holy LORD speaks and reveals to us in HIS Word through HIS Holy Spirit.

I didn't know much about this Joseph Prince preacher, only that he is a Word of Faith advocate, who followed the teachings of Kenneth Hagin. When I watched this video, I discovered that this man is DANGEROUS. I encourage those who haven't watched the video fully to take the time to finish viewing and listening in. What I like about videos by Brian Moonan is that he not only highlights the heretical teachings of the false teachers he studied, but he EMPHASIZES the Holy Scripture in response to the false claims of said false teacher. In effect, he is encouraging brethren to be more steadfast and diligent in examining GOD's Word, and to test everything we hear, if they agree with what is taught to us in the Holy Bible.

It is disconcerting how some agree that the Holy Spirit doesn't convict a believer of sin, just as what this Joseph Prince is preaching. Why would any true believer say that??? This is HUGE mistake. A VERY DANGEROUS LIE to believe. Because one would brush aside the convictions of the Holy Spirit as negative internal feelings or thoughts that are ungodly, when they should be regarded with honesty and humility when evaluating one's spiritual walk with GOD.

Those who believe this false claim would ask for book, chapter and verse where that truth is stated. Well, let me ask these questions to the naysayers: do you believe that GOD the Father, our LORD Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are in perfect agreement? Or do you think they teach different things that are contrary to each other?

Here are other important questions to answer: how was the written Word of GOD created? Was it man's wisdom, or was it "inspired" of GOD? Did HIS Holy Spirit move in these brethren who wrote them down, or was the Holy Spirit out of the picture?

I believe, truly, that the Holy Spirit convicts us of sin. If not, then what does? Is our conscience sufficient to direct us into righteous and holy living? If so, then why should we desire for GOD's gifts of discernment and wisdom if we are fully equipped, and our own personal and internal convictions are enough? It is through HIS Holy Spirit that our GOD teaches us all things, and imprints into our memory and our hearts HIS Holy teachings. And GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and the Holy Spirit are One and in perfect agreement in what they teach and purpose for what HIS children should hear, believe, and follow. HIS Holy Scripture says it clearly.

John 14:22-26 King James Version (KJV)

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


The Holy Bible carries the important admonition to True Christians to live righteous and holy lives, well pleasing and honoring before our GOD, as an act of love and worship to HIM who has paid the ultimate price for us sinners, so that we would be cleansed of sin, freed from its curse and its power, and be restored to HIM for all eternity. It is SO important for us who call Jesus Christ as our LORD and Saviour to abide in HIM and HIS Holy Word, that teaches us the ways of GODly wisdom, discernment, faith, righteousness and holiness, and so we would bear HIS Spiritual fruits, to honorable witnesses of HIS awesome work in our lives, and living testaments to HIS grace, power, holiness, and love. HIS Word speaks heavily against sin, and how we should flee from it. In no way, shape nor form does GOD ever condone sin of any kind. Even our LORD Jesus convicted sin, and gave the command to "sin no more."

So, if this is the case, why would anyone believe that the Holy Spirit, who is ONE with GOD the Father and GOD the Son, would do otherwise??? The Bible is inspired of GOD, or GOD-breathed. GOD's Holy Word was written by our blessed brethren as they were moved by HIS Holy Spirit. So therefore, if the written Word of GOD convicts people's sin, it being made with the action of the Holy Spirit, it is only right to believe that the Holy Spirit does the same.

2 Timothy 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


2 Peter 1:20-21 King James Version (KJV)

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


A mistake we (me included) might make sometimes is we forget that the Holy Spirit is a living being. Our Holy GOD's personal connection to us. HE is not a mere whisper in the wind, or a stamp of approval on our soul. HE is ALIVE. Our Comforter. Our Teacher. Our Sanctifier. HE reacts to what we do. If we abide and delight in HIM, we are drawn closer to HIM and experience peace, fulfillment, spiritual healing and restoration, and the sweetness of HIS presence.

Psalm 23:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.


Psalm 16:11

Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.


If we do acts of sin and rebellion, we grieve HIM. And HE doesn't encourage nor condone our sinful actions. HE fights against it!!! Our GOD is HOLY. Sin is enmity to GOD and unacceptable to HIM, as well as to HIS Holy Spirit, which is one with HIM, along with the Living Word, our LORD Jesus Christ!!!

Isaiah 63:10
But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


Our Almighty and Evergracious and Longsufferingly Merciful and Loving GOD and KING desires us to be like HIM: perfect, blameless, righteous and holy. Walking as HIS children of light. In order for us to become as HE is, HE needs to work in us. HE needs to sanctify us. HIS Holy Word is our instruction guide/love letter, to encourage and guide, remind and comfort, strengthen and teach us in HIS Holy ways. Our Warrior GOD and KING, LORD Jesus Christ, prays for us continually and takes HIS place as the head of HIS Church. And GOD's Holy Spirit is HIS Seal of Salvation, HIS Mark and Manifestation of HIS power and presence in our lives, as we walk this earth, confident in what HE bares witness before our own spirit, that we are truly HIS own. HE is here, and not just near. HE is in our hearts, that HE has made HIS very throne. But HE doesn't sit idly by, just letting us do what we will. HE is here to teach us HIS ways, and to correct and reprove us, should we go against HIS righteous ways. HE convicts us of our sins, and gives us that dire need to confess our sin before GOD and repent of it all, so that our fellowship with our Beloved GOD will not suffer, and so we would not be stalled in our walk of righteousness, but instead, grow deeper in love and knowledge of HIM, and continue on in full hope and confidence in HIM and all that HE has promised for us true believers. To become victorious, and to be like our LORD Jesus Christ. And someday, to finally be with HIM at last, for all eternity.

Let us be careful of what we hear and believe. It doesn't matter if this Joseph Prince spoke some biblical truths in his sermons. The fact that he inserts dangerous lies in between those truths should be cause for concern. He is deceiving others by preaching that the Holy Spirit doesn't convict believers of sin. It is not a small matter. This very act is blasphemy to the Holy Spirit, for he is saying something that the Holy Spirit doesn't do. It is an unforgivable act, that he will pay dearly for. Please do not partake in his folly. Prove everything he and other preacher' words against GOD's Holy Word. The Holy Bible should be our final and absolute authority in revealing HIS Truths, no one and nothing else!!!

Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Thank you for those who took the time to read my wall. I know it's pretty long, but I just couldn't help but share what HIS Holy Spirit has taught me and urges me to write. I truly hope and pray that it will serve as a blessing, even if just a small one.

Praying for everyone here. GOD bless us all!!!