Re: Say what???
One quote one time where I said people must use Hebrew...
Rather I sad that I balieve all should call upon His name..
Here is His name in Hebrew: יהוה
Here is His name in English: YHWH
Did I ever say I hate/dislike greek? No I study konie greek plenty, for as you said the majority of the "NT" is in greek. However I will say I prefer the Hebrew Matt over the greek Matt because the greek Matt has 3 critical errors that I know of, I want no errors.
How is it that I am disliked here for obeying Yah
Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."
7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity
7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity
7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)
Yeremyah 12:14-17, "This is what Yahweh says against all My evil neighbors who touch the inheritance which I have caused My people Israyl to inherit: Behold, I will pluck them up from off their land, and I will pluck up the house of Yahdah from among them. And it will come to pass, after I have plucked them out, that I will return and have compassion on them, and bring them back; everyone to his heritage and everyone to his land. And it will come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of My people, to vow by My Name, saying; As surely as Yahweh lives--as they once taught My people to vow by Baal then they will be established in the midst of My people. But if they do not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, says Yahweh."
Yeremyah 16:19-21, "O Yahweh, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles will come to You from the ends of the earth, and will say: Surely our fathers have inherited nothing but lies and vanity of no use at all! Do men make gods for themselves? Yes, but they are powerless! Therefore behold, I will make them to know--this time I will teach them My power and might; and they will know that My Name is Yahweh!"
Psalm 116:13, "We will take the cup of salvation, and we will call upon Your Name, O Yahweh."
and not obeying a pharisee/Sanhedrin law?
The Jewish Encyclopedia Volume 9, pages 162-163
The restriction upon communicating the Name proper probably originated in Oriental etiquette; in the East even a teacher was not called by name. For naming his master Elisha, Gehazi was punished with leprosy (II Kings viii. 5; Sanh. 100a). After the death of the high priest Simeon the Righteous, forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, the priests ceased to pronounce the Name (Yoma 39b). From that time the pronunciation of the Name was prohibited. "Whoever pronounces the Name forfeits his portion in the future world" (Sanhedrin xi. 1). Hananiah ben Teradion was punished for teaching his disciples the pronunciation of the Name (`Ab. Zarah 17b).
Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."
How am I "bad" for speaking and promoting something that is clearly important to Him? It is 3rd Commandment.
This is the last thing the Messiah said to Sanhedrin the after leaving "the temple"
Mattithyah 23:39, "For I say to you: From this moment you will not see Me, until you say: Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!"
So if that's True .... WHY ON EARTH DID JOHN AND WHOMEVER ELSE YOU TRUST NOT USE HEBREW NAMES FOR GOD AND CHRIST INSTEAD OF GREEK?????
Also - I did not call you evil for questioning JUST why Paul had Timothy circumcised but for your over-all bashing of the Apostle to the Gentiles who TWICE went to the Jerusalem Council -- James, Peter and Co to get what they felt that should be mandatory for the Gentiles that Paul was 'called to' bring the Gospel to - besides being called to ROME to preach before kings - and why would JESUS send an X-Pharisee to the GENTILES ... because he was the best of the best to explain the NEW covenant compared to the OLD covenant to ALL - both Jew and Gentile because HE [GOD] new that they'd be harrassed by the Judaisers and only PAUL could do that sort of APOLOGETICS
Quote you: "when Paul was a man that made mistakes, does have some amazing amazing truth is his writings but he is not the Messiah, there is only one Messiah."
According to you and those like you ONLY. Paul made NO MISTAKES in his writings of SCRIPTURE but yet you trust others that wrote in GREEK.
Poppy-cosh ---- You gave a ton of reasons why you don't like Paul and I knew those reasons since I've been on the internet in 2002 and dealt with others that suddenly became JEWISH or HEBREW speaking and you have the SAME reasons as they did/do for throwing out Paul.
I do not go along with OSAS and gave my reasons why along with you - side-by-side - and with the others in that debate .... but to throw out Paul and say that MANY of his Letters were disposable borders on or many be blasphemy.
ALL WRITERS OF THE NEW COVENANT WROTE IN GREEK --- MOST OF THEM JEWS, YET DIDN'T WRITE IN HEBREW - with only maybe one exception -- some think that Matthew wrote in Hebrew and had it re-written into the GREEK that THEOS/GOD wanted HIS BOOK written in.
It's GOD'S fault that we don't speak HEBREW Names and such - and not Paul's etc. and many have left the N.T. COMPLETELY AND BECAME JUST JEWS BECAUSE OF THIS and I fear for you that you will also as well as anyone else on this site that are mixing the two Covenants together ... though I believe with all of my heart that our Bible, as we call it, is ONE BOOK and not TWO.
It's you that fits into Peter's statement about Paul's teachings - as he wrote that in GREEK. GOD planned before the foundation of the world to be a "Greek-Freak" so - so are we. "In the fulness of times ....." HE factored into that time of when He'd send the Son ALSO when the Greek was the International language and most exact language --- so go ahead with reverting the whole of the N.T. to the language that GOD didn't choose for His Son first Coming and lift yourself above ALL of the Apostles and other writers of GOD'S WORD just so you can be a tad higher than the rest of us poor slobs that don't have YOUR supreme revelation about how GOD SHOULD HAVE HAD IT WRITTEN ... in Hebrew and without PAUL.
That's why this borders on blasphemy against The Word of GOD made flesh Who IS GOD and by Who's Spirit the O.T. Prophets wrote about His Own Coming and what He would do while in the flesh and after ... and wrote it in GREEK after He Came and then Ascended.
Silly self-contradictory reply you gave me - in Every way!
Also - I did not call you evil for questioning JUST why Paul had Timothy circumcised but for your over-all bashing of the Apostle to the Gentiles who TWICE went to the Jerusalem Council -- James, Peter and Co to get what they felt that should be mandatory for the Gentiles that Paul was 'called to' bring the Gospel to - besides being called to ROME to preach before kings - and why would JESUS send an X-Pharisee to the GENTILES ... because he was the best of the best to explain the NEW covenant compared to the OLD covenant to ALL - both Jew and Gentile because HE [GOD] new that they'd be harrassed by the Judaisers and only PAUL could do that sort of APOLOGETICS
Quote you: "when Paul was a man that made mistakes, does have some amazing amazing truth is his writings but he is not the Messiah, there is only one Messiah."
According to you and those like you ONLY. Paul made NO MISTAKES in his writings of SCRIPTURE but yet you trust others that wrote in GREEK.
Poppy-cosh ---- You gave a ton of reasons why you don't like Paul and I knew those reasons since I've been on the internet in 2002 and dealt with others that suddenly became JEWISH or HEBREW speaking and you have the SAME reasons as they did/do for throwing out Paul.
I do not go along with OSAS and gave my reasons why along with you - side-by-side - and with the others in that debate .... but to throw out Paul and say that MANY of his Letters were disposable borders on or many be blasphemy.
ALL WRITERS OF THE NEW COVENANT WROTE IN GREEK --- MOST OF THEM JEWS, YET DIDN'T WRITE IN HEBREW - with only maybe one exception -- some think that Matthew wrote in Hebrew and had it re-written into the GREEK that THEOS/GOD wanted HIS BOOK written in.
It's GOD'S fault that we don't speak HEBREW Names and such - and not Paul's etc. and many have left the N.T. COMPLETELY AND BECAME JUST JEWS BECAUSE OF THIS and I fear for you that you will also as well as anyone else on this site that are mixing the two Covenants together ... though I believe with all of my heart that our Bible, as we call it, is ONE BOOK and not TWO.
It's you that fits into Peter's statement about Paul's teachings - as he wrote that in GREEK. GOD planned before the foundation of the world to be a "Greek-Freak" so - so are we. "In the fulness of times ....." HE factored into that time of when He'd send the Son ALSO when the Greek was the International language and most exact language --- so go ahead with reverting the whole of the N.T. to the language that GOD didn't choose for His Son first Coming and lift yourself above ALL of the Apostles and other writers of GOD'S WORD just so you can be a tad higher than the rest of us poor slobs that don't have YOUR supreme revelation about how GOD SHOULD HAVE HAD IT WRITTEN ... in Hebrew and without PAUL.
That's why this borders on blasphemy against The Word of GOD made flesh Who IS GOD and by Who's Spirit the O.T. Prophets wrote about His Own Coming and what He would do while in the flesh and after ... and wrote it in GREEK after He Came and then Ascended.
Silly self-contradictory reply you gave me - in Every way!
Rather I sad that I balieve all should call upon His name..
Here is His name in Hebrew: יהוה
Here is His name in English: YHWH
Did I ever say I hate/dislike greek? No I study konie greek plenty, for as you said the majority of the "NT" is in greek. However I will say I prefer the Hebrew Matt over the greek Matt because the greek Matt has 3 critical errors that I know of, I want no errors.
How is it that I am disliked here for obeying Yah
Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."
7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity
7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity
7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)
Yeremyah 12:14-17, "This is what Yahweh says against all My evil neighbors who touch the inheritance which I have caused My people Israyl to inherit: Behold, I will pluck them up from off their land, and I will pluck up the house of Yahdah from among them. And it will come to pass, after I have plucked them out, that I will return and have compassion on them, and bring them back; everyone to his heritage and everyone to his land. And it will come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of My people, to vow by My Name, saying; As surely as Yahweh lives--as they once taught My people to vow by Baal then they will be established in the midst of My people. But if they do not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, says Yahweh."
Yeremyah 16:19-21, "O Yahweh, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles will come to You from the ends of the earth, and will say: Surely our fathers have inherited nothing but lies and vanity of no use at all! Do men make gods for themselves? Yes, but they are powerless! Therefore behold, I will make them to know--this time I will teach them My power and might; and they will know that My Name is Yahweh!"
Psalm 116:13, "We will take the cup of salvation, and we will call upon Your Name, O Yahweh."
and not obeying a pharisee/Sanhedrin law?
The Jewish Encyclopedia Volume 9, pages 162-163
The restriction upon communicating the Name proper probably originated in Oriental etiquette; in the East even a teacher was not called by name. For naming his master Elisha, Gehazi was punished with leprosy (II Kings viii. 5; Sanh. 100a). After the death of the high priest Simeon the Righteous, forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, the priests ceased to pronounce the Name (Yoma 39b). From that time the pronunciation of the Name was prohibited. "Whoever pronounces the Name forfeits his portion in the future world" (Sanhedrin xi. 1). Hananiah ben Teradion was punished for teaching his disciples the pronunciation of the Name (`Ab. Zarah 17b).
Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."
How am I "bad" for speaking and promoting something that is clearly important to Him? It is 3rd Commandment.
This is the last thing the Messiah said to Sanhedrin the after leaving "the temple"
Mattithyah 23:39, "For I say to you: From this moment you will not see Me, until you say: Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!"
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