HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE NT]?

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

Unbelieveable hat you would say "Unbelivable - but at least you got me laughing again ... You're even better than JOHN now!"

Did John? speak His Name? Did I say I was better than, or did you put that on me...

Matthew, actually Mattithyah wrote His name in Hebrew because Matt was originally written in Hebrew, and Paul wrote "YHWH" one time in one of the Corinthians letters.... and I wonder if they spoke His name when teaching?

The Messiah did:

Mattithyah 23:39, "For I say to you: From this moment you will not see Me, until you say: Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!"

Do as you please, but what I find odd is a never ending reason why "we" dont have to or dont want to do as He asks,

I, personally need no motivation to say, love, cherish, speak His Name other than: (pick one of these 3)

Psalm 111:9, "You sent redemption to Your people; You have commanded Your covenant forever. Holy and Reverend is Your Name."

Isayah 42:8, "I am Yahweh, that is MY NAME; and My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

I DINT BRING UP WHY I USE HIS NAME UNTIL I WAS PICKED AT OVER IT, as soon as I explain myself, Im this and that for explain..... oh and show me with my own words where I errored about his name, please.

Karraster · Jan 16, 2015

Kerry said:

Well, ..my experience is different. In life, people around me, they are curious and want to know more. Then I come to cc and Hebrew is taboo by some's standards. I'm glad real life people that I am around aren't as controlling as people are here. Man, and it's the one's who say there is no law who mostly want to do the controlling, if you ask me. but then ya didn't didja.

edit to say...I am in construction too.

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

Kerry said:

YHWH is His name, His sons name is Yahshua (meaning YHWH's Salvation) I enjoy calling them by their names.

Proverbs 30:4, "Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!"

Can I post that verse withOUT condemning people to "hell"

"OMG OMG He said His name HES judging us! KILL KILL KILL!"

It seems to me more "flak" is coming from the side that has issue with YHWH, for who started this tangent?

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god (430 - elohim), but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh (3068 - Yhvh) our Father forever and ever."

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Psalm 103:1, "Bless You Yahweh, O our souls! And all that is within us bless Your holy Name!"

Yeremyah 32:18, "Who shows lovingkindness to thousands, and recompenses the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them--the Great, the Mighty Father! Yahweh of hosts is His Name!"

Psalm 111:9, "You sent redemption to Your people; You have commanded Your covenant forever. Holy and Reverend is Your Name."

Yeremyah 33:2, "This is what Yahweh says Who made the earth, Yahweh Who formed it to establish it--Yahweh is His Name:"

OK.... #377

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

Karraster said:

I have run acroos a few people who would not listen to anyting concerning Scripture because they knw x-mas was fake, so I started with hey, His real name is Yahweh, the romans changed the Sabbath to sunday, the pharisees replaced Yahweh with the Lord, etc, and you know what they at least listened....

Scripture is true.

Yeremyah 16:19-21, "O Yahweh, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles will come to You from the ends of the earth, and will say: Surely our fathers have inherited nothing but lies and vanity; worthless, powerless gods of no use at all! Do men make gods for themselves? Yes, but they are powerless! Therefore behold, I will make them to know--this time I will teach them My power and might; and they will know that My Name is Yahweh!

He says He will make them know, not me, Im repeating His words....

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."

Kerry · Jan 16, 2015

Hizikyah said:

YHWH is His name, His sons name is Yahshua (meaning YHWH's Salvation) I enjoy calling them by their names.

Proverbs 30:4, "Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!"

Can I post that verse withOUT condemning people to "hell"

"OMG OMG He said His name HES judging us! KILL KILL KILL!"

It seems to me more "flak" is coming from the side that has issue with YHWH, for who started this tangent?

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god (430 - elohim), but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh (3068 - Yhvh) our Father forever and ever."

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Psalm 103:1, "Bless You Yahweh, O our souls! And all that is within us bless Your holy Name!"

Yeremyah 32:18, "Who shows lovingkindness to thousands, and recompenses the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them--the Great, the Mighty Father! Yahweh of hosts is His Name!"

Psalm 111:9, "You sent redemption to Your people; You have commanded Your covenant forever. Holy and Reverend is Your Name."

Yeremyah 33:2, "This is what Yahweh says Who made the earth, Yahweh Who formed it to establish it--Yahweh is His Name:"

OK.... #377

You still haven't answered my question, what does it do for you? thats what I want to know

ChristIsGod · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

Regardless of your replies, Hiz - you are STILL elevating yourself above the Apostles [again] and other New Covenant writers and the FACT that The Author of The New Covenant had his men to write and even speak in GREEK [the Koine, "language of the people"] --- which makes them guilty of not observing the Scripture that you say compels you to use the Hebrew and it does certainly come off as one-up-manship - even over His Apostles and His choice of the language for HIS Word to be written in.

They didn't observe the same law that you do - so once again - you are one up on those guys.

I'm sure He's supremely impressed with you, over them.

Karraster · Jan 16, 2015

Hizikyah said:

The true message is so much more powerful than the watered down version I got in church most of my life. My 2 grown kids are getting into learning and correcting all the lies we've been taught, pre-trib rapture, grace=do what you think is right, etc. It's amazing what truth can do, and like anything you love you can't get enough! Praise YaH!

The commandment not to take His Name in vain was not understood by me for most of my life. Now I know what it means..it means don't treat it like nothing, don't cast it away! And if anyone thinks the scriptures say don't use His Name, (it says don't swear falsely by His Name) they are not reading scripture, for it was the religious leaders who forbade to speak YaH, and would kill you. I think those times we'll see here soon. Even so, come Messiah.

ChristIsGod · Jan 16, 2015

If you were raised by a Hebrew speaking family or a Greek speaking family - that's one thing - but to make others feel less than yourself - you being a Gentile - by saying that we're "NOT speaking His Name" by giving us that verse you give ..... phewy .... that is arrogance but not quite as high & lifted up as faulting Paul as much as you have on this thread... the same Paul that said that he became all things to all men in order to win them ... speaking Greek to those who spoke Greek and speaking Hebrew to those that preferred Hebrew.

Why don't you go to where they feel as you do --- I know of some forums that fault Paul and only use His Hebrew Name --- but you can't can you? Or is it that you just prefer to bring your insults of Paul here - to where some need to and most do believe that His Word is inerrant and from cover to cover is Divinely Inspired?

All one-up-manship = pride!

john832 · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

Whose attack dog are you?

ChristIsGod · Jan 16, 2015

john832 said:

Who's attack "dog" [as you call people] were Peter & Paul ? Hey, I never was used to cause a husband and wife to drop dead or blind anyone by the Power of GOD.

You come anywhere near saying that The Word of GOD is not inerrant and thus not Divinely Inspired as this Hiz guy has by belittling Paul, etc and I pray that if I'm not here to defend His Word and/or it's writters/Apostles - that someone else would show the danger of doing that.

Neither Christ nor His Apostles were whimpy.

Hiz has come against Paul and thus The Word and then he began to whine that we were picking on him.

Who's servant are you?

Karraster · Jan 16, 2015

Toxic drama, to understand it is to not be sucked in.Toxic Drama and Righteous Indignation – Drama Queen Part IV

ChristIsGod · Jan 16, 2015

Karraster said:

So you've enjoyed seeing Paul be torn up.

Karraster · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

I can read CIG. It's my understanding that most of us can. good day.

Kerry · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

"They Have Done Away With the Cross!" by David Wilkerson, founding pastor of Times Square Church, New York City - December 23, 1996

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

John (Yahchanan) 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."

John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

The story about Him, and the amazing Sacrifice He supplied for us is precious beyond measure, but once they are "in the door" it's is not "Jesus is dead" so go play, it's, now do His will.

John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John 7:16-17 "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching--whether it comes from Yahweh, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."

Hebrews 12:3-11, "For consider Him Who endured such opposition against Himself from sinners, so that you would not become weary, and faint in your minds. You yourselves have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as unto sons: My son, do not despise the chastening of Yahweh, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; For whom Yahweh loves, He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, Yahweh deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons. Furthermore, we have had fleshly fathers who corrected us, and we gave them reverence; should we not even more be subject to Father Yahweh, and live? For they truly chastened us for a few days as they thought best; but He, for our profit, that we might be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful at the present time, but grievous; nevertheless, afterward it produces the peaceable fruit of righteousness, that is, for those who have been trained by it."

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

I think most doctrine stops at, "He died for you, you are forgiven"

What about being dead to sin, which is transgression of the Law? DO we break it and say we don't, or do we use the Messiah's blood as a doormat for sin? BY NO MEANS!

Romans 3:25, "Whom Yahweh set forth as a sacrifice of atonement by His own blood, through the faith, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of Yahweh."

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us."

Hebrews 10:26-30, "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Those who rejected the Law given through Mosheh died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished, who has trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot, and has counted the blood of the covenant (with which He was sanctified) an unholy thing, and who has insulted the Spirit of mercy? For we know Him Who has said: Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says Yahweh. And again: Yahweh will judge His people."

Yahchanan 5:14, "Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you."

2 Timothy 4:3-4, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to fables.”

Karraster · Jan 16, 2015

Hizikyah said:

I think most doctrine stops at, "He died for you, you are forgiven"

What about being dead to sin, which is transgression of the Law? DO we break it and say we don't, or do we use the Messiah's blood as a doormat for sin? BY NO MEANS!

Romans 3:25, "Whom Yahweh set forth as a sacrifice of atonement by His own blood, through the faith, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of Yahweh."

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us."

Hebrews 10:26-30, "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Those who rejected the Law given through Mosheh died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished, who has trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot, and has counted the blood of the covenant (with which He was sanctified) an unholy thing, and who has insulted the Spirit of mercy? For we know Him Who has said: Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says Yahweh. And again: Yahweh will judge His people."

Yahchanan 5:14, "Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you."

2 Timothy 4:3-4, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to fables.”

The second most popular doctrine, "Think not."

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

Karraster said:

Ohh eee, I used to be "good" at the one...

Thanks be to the Most High He has granted me repentance!

Psalm 40:16, "May all those who seek You rejoice and be glad in You! May those who love Your Salvation always say: May Yahweh be magnified!"

ChristIsGod · Jan 16, 2015

Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE

Act 19:11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
Act 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Act 19:17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the Name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
Act 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
Act 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
Act 19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
Act 19:21 After these things were ended, Paul purposed in the spirit, when he had passed through Macedonia and Achaia, to go to Jerusalem, saying,
After I have been there, I must also see Rome.

Hizikyah · Jan 16, 2015

ChristIsGod said:

Act 19:11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
Act 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Act 19:17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the Name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
Act 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
Act 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
Act 19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
Act 19:21 After these things were ended, Paul purposed in the spirit, when he had passed through Macedonia and Achaia, to go to Jerusalem, saying,
After I have been there, I must also see Rome.

So does Paul lead us to the Father or to Messiah?

and

Who leads us to the Father?

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