Trinity?

[DiscipleDave]

DiscipleDave said

Scriptures does not teach the Holy Ghost sits on the left of the Father, does not change the Truth that the Holy Ghost sits on the left side of the Father.

^i^

So, in other words, ignore this scripture?

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

i don't get it, how is what i have said above, ignoring 1 Thess 5:21?

If i say the antichrist will be on TV one day and say "Where is your God now" how is that ignoring 1 thess 5:21. Are you suggesting that God can not reveal prophesies to anyone in these last days? lol. God reveals to whom God reveals it.

^i^

 

[newbirth]

DiscipleDave said



lol, pizza must not be a Truth, Abortion must not be True, a million must not be True, Trinity must not be True, Rapture must not be True, according to this same logic you use above. Just because the Bible does not mention certain things, does not make everything else that is NOT mentioned untrue.

You ask "where did you get that truth " If i told you the Truth, you would not believe me. But that i give credit where it is due, because i don't want people thinking that i have came to this knowledge by my own power or through my own studies. i will tell you the Truth. God told me.
Call me crazy, call me strange, call me a liar, does not change the Truth that i have spoken with Angels of God, had conversations with God many times, seen visions of the future, had dreams of the future as if i were actually standing there. What i teach is what God has told me in many of our conversations. Is it my fault that this generation does not believe God speaks to people any more? Even though it is written He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Can you show me where it is written that God STOPS speaking to people? Is it not written in the latter days, God Spirit will be poured out on the Sons and Daughters and they shall prophesies. And now that one of those sons who the Lord has revealed a great many things to you, reveals to you the same Truths that God revealed to him, you do not believe because it is not in the Word of God.
What point would there be if God poured out the gift of prophesy to someone who has no new prophesies? lol, God has revealed to me what is going to happen in the future, how it is all going to happen and why it is all going to happen. if i lie then let me burn in Hell for all eternity, if i am lying let every known disease in the world come upon me, and not only me but those that i love and that love me. i lie not. NOT my fault if you do not believe God speaks to people in the last days.

^i^

are you saying you have new scripture from God???...then why does the scripture say ....if an angel comes with a different gospel let him be accursed....you have a different gospel and Paul is telling me not to follow you....

2 Corinthians 11:1-5King James Version (KJV)
11 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

 

[Bowman]

Tard.

common sense will tell you Harley was not even born then much less make a bike....that is why God gave us a brain and a mind....if you cannot figure out a simple truth then you are in serious trouble.....then again you are in serious trouble..you have triple vision....

Such it is with DD....if its not mentioned in scripture, then, there is no reason to reject that it exists.

You, on the other hand, simply reject something which does exist.

You are still stuck slavishly posting Trinitarian English renderings...and then you bark-out your rejection of them.

No one takes you seriously...

 

[Bowman]

Sorry Brother Bowman, i have added you to my ignore list, the only one that i have ever had to do,
you are full of hate, and are very mean to me, and to others. the words you say are not in love.
i have had many conversations with you, you are still a brother, and i will pray for you, i will.

^i^

I was already supposed to be on your so called 'ignore list' last year.

Please deflate that hot-air bag of yours somewhere else...

 

[Jon4TheCross]

If this is about the right and left hand of God, then you would have to include this...

Matthew 6:3New King James Version (NKJV)

3*But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

 

[VCO]

look I have shown you the scripture so many times and you deny it ...you even make post implying I do not understand the spiritual things...Paul and I agree...because I believe what he says....God the Father and out Lord Jesus ...no trinity... but he did not leave it there ...he even spoke about you in verse 7.....you simply do not have that knowledge.....I am not blaming you..... 1 Corinthians 8:5-7King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
[SUP]6[/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.


Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Joshua 24:14 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] “Therefore, fear the LORD and worship Him in sincerity and truth. Get rid of the gods your fathers worshiped beyond the Euphrates River and in Egypt, and worship Yahweh.


Romans 8:38-39 (ESV)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,
[SUP]39 [/SUP] nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 12:19 (ESV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

Revelation 19:1-2 (YLT)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] And after these things I heard a great voice of a great multitude in the heaven, saying, `Alleluia! the salvation, and the glory, and the honour, and the power, is to the Lord our God;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] because true and righteous are His judgments, because He did judge the great whore who did corrupt the earth in her whoredom, and He did avenge the blood of His servants at her hand;'

Acts 2:39 (NASB)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] "For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself."

Mark 12:28-30 (ASV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all?
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one:
[SUP]30 [/SUP] and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength.

 

[newbirth]

Re: Tard.

Such it is with DD....if its not mentioned in scripture, then, there is no reason to reject that it exists.

You, on the other hand, simply reject something which does exist.

You are still stuck slavishly posting Trinitarian English renderings...and then you bark-out your rejection of them.

No one takes you seriously...

no one took Noah seriously....I am posting scripture......which is the word of God...which you claim to beTrinitarian English renderings...simply because you claim something exist and you reject scripture that proves otherwise...with your main explanation being ...already comprehended by the trinity....the trinity cannot explain... one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ the only two entities in the creation and culmination of all things....the apostles were not trinitarians...all salutations in the epistles are from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ.....no trinity ....Paul explains it in this way...
[SUP]
6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

obviously you are one man who the knowledge is not in....

 

[newbirth]

Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.


Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Joshua 24:14 (HCSB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] “Therefore, fear the LORD and worship Him in sincerity and truth. Get rid of the gods your fathers worshiped beyond the Euphrates River and in Egypt, and worship Yahweh.


Romans 8:38-39 (ESV)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,
[SUP]39 [/SUP] nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 12:19 (ESV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

Revelation 19:1-2 (YLT)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] And after these things I heard a great voice of a great multitude in the heaven, saying, `Alleluia! the salvation, and the glory, and the honour, and the power, is to the Lord our God;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] because true and righteous are His judgments, because He did judge the great whore who did corrupt the earth in her whoredom, and He did avenge the blood of His servants at her hand;'

Acts 2:39 (NASB)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] "For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself."

Mark 12:28-30 (ASV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all?
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one:
[SUP]30 [/SUP] and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength.

bro the knowledge is not in you ...it comes from God whom you have rejected and replaced with a trinity...and try desperately to find scripture to support your claim...flesh and blood cannot reveal it to you...all I can do is show the scripture and pray that the strong hold that you are in is broken....
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP](For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

 

[Bowman]

Re: Tard.

no one took Noah seriously....I am posting scripture......which is the word of God...which you claim to beTrinitarian English renderings...simply because you claim something exist and you reject scripture that proves otherwise...with your main explanation being ...already comprehended by the trinity....the trinity cannot explain... one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ the only two entities in the creation and culmination of all things....the apostles were not trinitarians...all salutations in the epistles are from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ.....no trinity ....Paul explains it in this way...
[SUP]
6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

[SUP]7[/SUP]Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

obviously you are one man who the knowledge is not in....

You're stuck.

You deny The Trinity....and yet, you cannot even define what you think it is.

Therefore, all we see you do is copy-paste scripture (rendered by Trinitarians themselves!) in hopes that this somehow supports your denial of it.

You never explain it....you just post if for us to tell you what it means.

You have nothing....

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Is it so hard to understand that we can see, feel, and hear fire? God is the only good example of The Father. God is the only good example of The Son. God is the only good example of The Holy Spirit. All of these examples have no beginning. Thank God we can be adopted into these examples by a measure of faith.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

All of us learns a little differently, and sometimes much differently than another. Some did not want to approach The Father, but some did approach Him. Some didn't want to approach The Son, but some did. Some don't want the gift of The Holy Spirit, but some do.

It's not so hard to understand that anything good and perfect in us is from God, and to God be the glory. A billion plus a billion can still equal one with God.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

We can see, feel, and hear The Father with no beginning and ending.
We can see, feel, and hear The Son with no beginning and ending.
We can see, feel, and hear The Holy Spirit Comforter with no beginning and ending.
Each in a different way don't you think? That does not make the three divided though. God is one.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

When I get a spanking, I recognize that as a work of The Father (as in being allowed to go through a time of suffering because of the sin planted in the flesh).
When I need to know what I should do...for me/an adopted son it is good to follow The Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
After the spanking and as I follow Jesus, I recieve comfort and much more by the gift of The Holy Spirit.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

When I get a spanking (not according to the flesh), I recognize that as a work of The Father.
When I need to know what I should do...for me/an adopted son it is good to follow The Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
After the spanking and as I follow Jesus, I recieve comfort and much more by the gift of The Holy Spirit.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

Oops, double post. This phone is finicky.

 

[newbirth]

Re: Tard.

You're stuck.

You deny The Trinity....and yet, you cannot even define what you think it is.

Therefore, all we see you do is copy-paste scripture (rendered by Trinitarians themselves!) in hopes that this somehow supports your denial of it.

You never explain it....you just post if for us to tell you what it means.

You have nothing....

what is there to explain?? one God ALL things of Him, we in him.. one Lord ALL things by Him and we by him....you have not that knowledge....as a matter of fact no one who believes there is a trinity have that knowledge in them....where is the trinity ?I believe what the scripture says ...you are the one who need to show where the trinity is in there....I have shown it is not there.....all you keep saying it is rendered by trinitarians...that does not prove anything....I do not have to define a trinity,you do.... I do not have to prove a trinity ,you do........I have shown that it does not exist...you cannot show that it exist....

 

[VCO]

bro the knowledge is not in you ...it comes from God whom you have rejected and replaced with a trinity...and try desperately to find scripture to support your claim...flesh and blood cannot reveal it to you...all I can do is show the scripture and pray that the strong hold that you are in is broken....
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP](For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

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I KNOW HIM and HE certainly is IN me and I certainly am IN HIM.

The UNDERSTANDING of the GOD's TRIUNE NATURE, is taught to me by the HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF.

John 14:15-17 (YLT)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] `If ye love me, my commands keep,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you--to the age;
[SUP]17 [/SUP] the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him, and ye know him, because he doth remain with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:26 (YLT)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] and the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and remind you of all things that I said to you.

Job 11:7 (NKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] "Can you search out the deep things of God? Can you find out the limits of the Almighty?
{Without the Holy Spirit actually IN YOU, NO!}

1 Corinthians 2:10 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (NIV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.


I am convinced that you do not have the HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU, YET.

But I am equally convinced that HE is calling you to COME to HIM,
to open the door of your heart to receive the knowledge of the TRUTH.


2 Timothy 2:24-25 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,
[SUP]25 [/SUP] with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,


I am also convinced that you have not yet hardened your heart beyond becoming Born Again. And I certainly have told you the TRUTH all along, especially about the FACT that everyone who is not born again will have EXTREME difficulty understanding that the Holy Trinity is an ABSOLUTE REALITY, and will think it is only FOOLISHNESS. Once you are born again, YOU WILL KNOW the Triune Nature of Our GOD, because you will have an inner personal LOVE relationship with HIM. The Holy Spirit then IN YOU will open your eyes to Spiritual Understandings of Scriptures that you misunderstood before. Every bit of what I shared with you is THE TRUTH.

Watch this video and pray a you watch it, that HE will COME IN TO YOUR HEART. It has led many to KNOW HIM PERSONALLY IN THEIR HEARTS. HE will not come into your heart if you do not open the door to your heart and SURRENDER to HIM.

[video=youtube;HcnfT4arZtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcnfT4arZtI[/video]


Philippians 2:5-6 (YLT)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For, let this mind be in you that is also in Christ Jesus,
[SUP]6 [/SUP] who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal to God,


Those two verses are saying, we are to understand and believe that just like JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF KNEW, HE was in the form of GOD and equal to GOD.


Just like me, I think GOD is going to have to break you, to drive the pride of life out of you first.

HE broke me completely before I even realized that I was a great sinner unable save myself. That was at the age of 29, and I was a proud Church goer my WHOLE life prior to that. When HE BROKE ME, HE crushed that pride of life, completely out of me. I found myself on my knees and later my face bawling like a baby BEGGING for Mercy and Forgiveness, AND COMPLETELY SURRENDERING TO HIM.


COME!

HE IS CALLING YOU!

 

[VCO]

Oops, double post. This phone is finicky.

No, this site is some times FINICKY.

Enjoy the phone link to the internet while you are young,

because when you get to be my age, those small screens

will look like this:

John 1:12 (NIV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Yet to all who received him,
to those who believed in his name,
he gave the right to become
children of God--

 

[Bowman]

watch him run folks...

what is there to explain?? one God ALL things of Him, we in him.. one Lord ALL things by Him and we by him....you have not that knowledge....as a matter of fact no one who believes there is a trinity have that knowledge in them....where is the trinity ?I believe what the scripture says ...you are the one who need to show where the trinity is in there....I have shown it is not there.....all you keep saying it is rendered by trinitarians...that does not prove anything....I do not have to define a trinity,you do.... I do not have to prove a trinity ,you do........I have shown that it does not exist...you cannot show that it exist....

All you have to do is show us ONE verse which supposedly thwarts The Trinity, and detail to us why it supposedly does.

I've been asking you to do this simple task for the past year.

You cannot do it.

 

[Anonimous]

Matthew 28: 19,20..."baptizing them in the name (not names plural) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" Not three Gods as could be thought of as three separate people if you have a terribly wild imagination. The Father is God... the Son is God... the Holy Spirit is God.

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