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Yet Scripture tells us NOTHING CAN SEPARATE US FROM THE LOVE OF GOD.
I guess you ignore scripture. and your own sin.
why do you want to sound like th epharisee pumping your chest,that your like not the evil sinful osas believer. Instead of the tax collector on your knees every day.
Every day I wake up and I am not in Hell. it is a good day, because that is what I deserve!
I guess you ignore scripture. and your own sin.
why do you want to sound like th epharisee pumping your chest,that your like not the evil sinful osas believer. Instead of the tax collector on your knees every day.
Every day I wake up and I am not in Hell. it is a good day, because that is what I deserve!
There is a big difference between sins done in ignorance and sins done willfully. True Christians sin in ignorance (sin out of human weakness or unaware of what sin they do), it not the desire of a Christian to sin willfully (ongoing sinful action in which God clearly states as sin, but the person rationalizes to be ok, or just fine, example a homosexual "Christian" [in word only] but says his/her life style is acceptable).
ignorance is not an excuse for sin.... a man who did not see the red light is in danger of being ploughed over by cross traffic....same as the one who saw the light and went through on purpose....the scripture states all unrighteousness is sin not just those you knew that were unrighteous ...is there such a thing a a homosexual Christian??? God could not find one in Sodom and Gomorrah what makes you think he will find one in the world today???
The OP has virtually stated that his objective is to win the argument. In his mind nothing else matters. He is not seeking truth but victory at any price.
Truth is many when they are first saved doubt that God would save them by grace and not require some form of repayment. As one grows in the knowledge of Christ and the knowledge of Gods grace one can only rejoice yea exceedingly rejoice at what God has done for so wretched a soul as me.
The OP in the classic manner of such as he will persevere in this thread until he has sufficiently alienated those who honor Gods truth to declare victory. Much the same as the baptismal regenerationists. This type is not interested in the truth only that their isms be the victor.
We are admonished to beware of those who cause divisions and scatter the flock. Ours if we are of the Lord is to disciple and to admonish with love that we all grow together in Christ. We all need to grow and mature in Christ. We are never taught to demean others to make ourselves look good.
This stuff is refuted over and over again not for the sake of the OP but for the sake of those still in need of milk the sincere milk of the word of God whereby they may grow. Shame on those who would do harm to the babes in Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Truth is many when they are first saved doubt that God would save them by grace and not require some form of repayment. As one grows in the knowledge of Christ and the knowledge of Gods grace one can only rejoice yea exceedingly rejoice at what God has done for so wretched a soul as me.
The OP in the classic manner of such as he will persevere in this thread until he has sufficiently alienated those who honor Gods truth to declare victory. Much the same as the baptismal regenerationists. This type is not interested in the truth only that their isms be the victor.
We are admonished to beware of those who cause divisions and scatter the flock. Ours if we are of the Lord is to disciple and to admonish with love that we all grow together in Christ. We all need to grow and mature in Christ. We are never taught to demean others to make ourselves look good.
This stuff is refuted over and over again not for the sake of the OP but for the sake of those still in need of milk the sincere milk of the word of God whereby they may grow. Shame on those who would do harm to the babes in Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
a new idea or new thing must be put in place, now it is in place you cant move it.
again scripture is in time with history, not quoted out side of the time to the birth of a new thing.
9 Behold, I am doing a new thing;
now it springs forth, do you not perceive it?
I will make a way in the wilderness
and rivers in the desert.Isaiah 43
you speculate again, how can you think for me. again you stupor is clear,
there again is your problem, like acts 15,it is in time with time. so why go back to heaven. again your logic is at fault.
Isaiah 43 730 bc out side of the time of jesus.
3 For I am the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior.
I give Egypt as your ransom,
Cush and Seba in exchange for you.
11 I, I am the LORD,
and besides me there is no savior.
25 "I, I am he
who blots out your transgressions for my own sake,
and I will not remember your sins.
how did you get your sin blotted out.
again scripture is in time with history, not quoted out side of the time to the birth of a new thing.
9 Behold, I am doing a new thing;
now it springs forth, do you not perceive it?
I will make a way in the wilderness
and rivers in the desert.Isaiah 43
you speculate again, how can you think for me. again you stupor is clear,
there again is your problem, like acts 15,it is in time with time. so why go back to heaven. again your logic is at fault.
Isaiah 43 730 bc out side of the time of jesus.
3 For I am the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior.
I give Egypt as your ransom,
Cush and Seba in exchange for you.
11 I, I am the LORD,
and besides me there is no savior.
25 "I, I am he
who blots out your transgressions for my own sake,
and I will not remember your sins.
how did you get your sin blotted out.
bottom line what is the big difference between a sin done in ignorance and one not done in ignorance...which one's wages is not death?
and what does it matter to you who believes all future sins are already forgiven...to you sin makes no difference in ignorance or not ....your sins are become righteousness and your evil as good...and their wages is no longer death but life...
and what does it matter to you who believes all future sins are already forgiven...to you sin makes no difference in ignorance or not ....your sins are become righteousness and your evil as good...and their wages is no longer death but life...
what is the relationship God has with a sinner?...father and son...scripture says the devil is the father of sinners...not God...how does one obey sin and be the son of God at the same time....Is that an example set by Jesus????he who sins has adopted to himself another father and rejected God.....you cannot have two spiritual fathers at the same time....it is either you are in Christ without sin or drawn away from Christ in sin
order or logic is up to you to peace together. (your choice)
what people was jesus and john(b) sent to. ? (jewish people)
when you answer this question.
why was there a pentecost?
what law was give to a gentile acts 15.
But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved
5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses."Acts 15
again time proves, correct to change, not my speculation or thought.the time line to the history of change and facts that grace saved not law. you build in error.
10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."
what people was jesus and john(b) sent to. ? (jewish people)
when you answer this question.
why was there a pentecost?
what law was give to a gentile acts 15.
But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved
5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses."Acts 15
again time proves, correct to change, not my speculation or thought.the time line to the history of change and facts that grace saved not law. you build in error.
10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."
when did law save you. and if grace is a gift. how can you claim to have saved your self.
again prove the law was given(the law of moses) to given to a gentile, because act 15 already proves you wrong.
ie they would have said follow the full law of mosses.
yet how could anyone foretold of a temple(stone) fall
22 " But you have not called upon Me, O Jacob;
And you have been weary of Me, O Israel.
23 You have not brought Me the sheep for your burnt offerings,
Nor have you honored Me with your sacrifices.
I have not caused you to serve with grain offerings,
Nor wearied you with incense.
24 You have bought Me no sweet cane with money,
Nor have you satisfied Me with the fat of your sacrifices;
But you have burdened Me with your sins,
You have wearied Me with your iniquities.
25 " I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake;
And I will not remember your sins.
26 Put Me in remembrance;
Let us contend together;
State your case, that you may be acquitted.
27 Your first father sinned,
And your mediators have transgressed against Me.
28 Therefore I will profane the princes of the sanctuary;
I will give Jacob to the curse,
And Israel to reproaches.
70 ad no temple of stone.
again prove the law was given(the law of moses) to given to a gentile, because act 15 already proves you wrong.
ie they would have said follow the full law of mosses.
yet how could anyone foretold of a temple(stone) fall
22 " But you have not called upon Me, O Jacob;
And you have been weary of Me, O Israel.
23 You have not brought Me the sheep for your burnt offerings,
Nor have you honored Me with your sacrifices.
I have not caused you to serve with grain offerings,
Nor wearied you with incense.
24 You have bought Me no sweet cane with money,
Nor have you satisfied Me with the fat of your sacrifices;
But you have burdened Me with your sins,
You have wearied Me with your iniquities.
25 " I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake;
And I will not remember your sins.
26 Put Me in remembrance;
Let us contend together;
State your case, that you may be acquitted.
27 Your first father sinned,
And your mediators have transgressed against Me.
28 Therefore I will profane the princes of the sanctuary;
I will give Jacob to the curse,
And Israel to reproaches.
70 ad no temple of stone.