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Thank you very much for your kindness toward me, brother Jason! Praise God for His Spirit alive in you.
I followed your lead and just read through Matthew 13 regarding the parable of the sower. It's interesting that Jesus says that the seed sowed among the way side, stony ground & among thorns never took root. I would think if these were children of God the Word would have taken root, am I correct?
And afterwards while Jesus is interpreting the story of the sower to His disciples, he tells several more parables about sowing. In the wheat & the tares, Jesus explains that they are the saved and unsaved; those who will enter heaven and those who are cast away. In the parable of the mustard seed, Jesus said even if the tiniest seed like that takes root, it's grows to be the greatest among herbs. Lastly Jesus explains how leaven (like yeast) causes flour to rise and grow. I understand that to mean that once Jesus has entered us, we are going to increase by His Spirit.
One of the reasons I hold the belief of "eternal security" is that I know Jesus is the Shepherd and that nobody is the shepherd of themselves. Psalm 100:3 reads: Know ye that the LORD He is God: it is He that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are His people, and the sheep of His pasture. Once the Holy Spirit takes residence in a person, that man/woman is God's holy vessel and the flesh has been crucified. That person now belongs to the Great Shepherd and is being conformed into the image of Jesus more and more. It is not we ourselves doing the work, but the Shepherd.
Jason, having read through these things this morning, it concerns me that perhaps there are many who call themselves Christians but have not genuinely been converted. Romans 10:14 reads: How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? There is so much watered down, off-based, new age preaching today that it's possible there are many who have not really heard the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Like what you said above, something on the surface but nothing really deep and lasting. "Itching ears" as the Bible calls it. Something that temporarily relieves guilt and condemnation, but nothing that takes root and drives out the carnality.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom." [Proverbs 9:10] I confess, fear drove me to God. My corrupted mind and black heart liked to destroy the life in me! I ran to Jesus in fear for forgiveness and salvation. It has been a loooooong road since then, mostly because I was conditioned to extreme abuse and was afraid of my own emotions and doubting mind. I was one hot mess!
But the Lord broke through every one of the strongholds binding me. It is breathtakingly astonishing to me how Jesus makes me obey Him just like He does the wind and the sea. So it just makes me wonder how someone could be invaded by the Most Powerful Holy Spirit and then have the notion to evict Almighty God from their being at will. It doesn't seem possible. With a word, God created the heavens and the earth. How can mere man have power over the Holy Spirit in him?
Which brings me back to wondering how many who call themselves Christians really are saved. Isn't it rather odd that there are so many who attend church services but who don't have any desire to follow after Jesus Christ on a day to day basis? Either they haven't heard the Word preached in power and anointing of the Holy Spirit or as Jesus said, the Word never took root. That's cause for extreme concern, isn't it brother? We are in serious need of anointed pastors who will preach the Truth of Jesus Christ in Holy Ghost power. God be praised!
Again Jason, thank you for your understanding and the beautiful blessing you extend to me and my family. May the Lord also bless you and yours in grace and peace.
I followed your lead and just read through Matthew 13 regarding the parable of the sower. It's interesting that Jesus says that the seed sowed among the way side, stony ground & among thorns never took root. I would think if these were children of God the Word would have taken root, am I correct?
And afterwards while Jesus is interpreting the story of the sower to His disciples, he tells several more parables about sowing. In the wheat & the tares, Jesus explains that they are the saved and unsaved; those who will enter heaven and those who are cast away. In the parable of the mustard seed, Jesus said even if the tiniest seed like that takes root, it's grows to be the greatest among herbs. Lastly Jesus explains how leaven (like yeast) causes flour to rise and grow. I understand that to mean that once Jesus has entered us, we are going to increase by His Spirit.
One of the reasons I hold the belief of "eternal security" is that I know Jesus is the Shepherd and that nobody is the shepherd of themselves. Psalm 100:3 reads: Know ye that the LORD He is God: it is He that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are His people, and the sheep of His pasture. Once the Holy Spirit takes residence in a person, that man/woman is God's holy vessel and the flesh has been crucified. That person now belongs to the Great Shepherd and is being conformed into the image of Jesus more and more. It is not we ourselves doing the work, but the Shepherd.
Jason, having read through these things this morning, it concerns me that perhaps there are many who call themselves Christians but have not genuinely been converted. Romans 10:14 reads: How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? There is so much watered down, off-based, new age preaching today that it's possible there are many who have not really heard the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Like what you said above, something on the surface but nothing really deep and lasting. "Itching ears" as the Bible calls it. Something that temporarily relieves guilt and condemnation, but nothing that takes root and drives out the carnality.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom." [Proverbs 9:10] I confess, fear drove me to God. My corrupted mind and black heart liked to destroy the life in me! I ran to Jesus in fear for forgiveness and salvation. It has been a loooooong road since then, mostly because I was conditioned to extreme abuse and was afraid of my own emotions and doubting mind. I was one hot mess!
But the Lord broke through every one of the strongholds binding me. It is breathtakingly astonishing to me how Jesus makes me obey Him just like He does the wind and the sea. So it just makes me wonder how someone could be invaded by the Most Powerful Holy Spirit and then have the notion to evict Almighty God from their being at will. It doesn't seem possible. With a word, God created the heavens and the earth. How can mere man have power over the Holy Spirit in him?
Which brings me back to wondering how many who call themselves Christians really are saved. Isn't it rather odd that there are so many who attend church services but who don't have any desire to follow after Jesus Christ on a day to day basis? Either they haven't heard the Word preached in power and anointing of the Holy Spirit or as Jesus said, the Word never took root. That's cause for extreme concern, isn't it brother? We are in serious need of anointed pastors who will preach the Truth of Jesus Christ in Holy Ghost power. God be praised!
Again Jason, thank you for your understanding and the beautiful blessing you extend to me and my family. May the Lord also bless you and yours in grace and peace.
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**************** too bad yahweh(the one true creator and giver of life) never ever declared gentiles(goyim sinners) clean *************
if he had, perhaps some at least could be saved....... eh?
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**************** too bad yahweh(the one true creator and giver of life) never ever declared gentiles(goyim sinners) clean *************
if he had, perhaps some at least could be saved....... eh?
E
See, here is your problem.
God changed his mind (repented) at destroying Nineveh.
So tell me. God says that if you lie, it is a sin, and that sin has caused you to be separated from God. You repent of that sin (changed your mind and agreed with God that it is sin, and has caused separation) but then something comes up, and in your flesh, you tell a lie.
Now how can you repent of that sin again? When you already agreed it was sin? You did not change your mind back, and think it was no longer a sin anymore, and now have to change it yet again to agree it is a sin.
Like I said, your problem is you to steeped in religion and religious defenitions of words, which appear right, and appear holy, but are nothing but lies.
As for sinning every day, If you do not think you do. you are like the pharisees, and do not realise what sin is.
Everytime you do something for self. Every-time you do not do something you should have done, every time you put your needs above someone else's needs, You are in sin. You probably do it ten or 20 times a day and do not even know it. That whay the more mature we as believers get, the more sinful we realise we are. Something a legalist like yourself will never grasp!
E
Here is what I see.
Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself.
How often do we break these two every day, and most likely do not even realise it?
The more mature you are in Christ, the more you will see..
the more you remain a pharisee, the less you will see, and puff yourself up as holy and righteous. and do as you do, and judge others.
I do not need to judge others for sin, I have my own to worry about. Yet I do not see this humility from any of you legalist. all I see is pride.
God will humble the pride, he will give mercy to the humble.
Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself.
How often do we break these two every day, and most likely do not even realise it?
The more mature you are in Christ, the more you will see..
the more you remain a pharisee, the less you will see, and puff yourself up as holy and righteous. and do as you do, and judge others.
I do not need to judge others for sin, I have my own to worry about. Yet I do not see this humility from any of you legalist. all I see is pride.
God will humble the pride, he will give mercy to the humble.
B
Perhaps their is no specific or verbatim scriptural reference because that is not an issue with God when He is after the heart of man and not after what man does or does not do in relationship to sin. God took care of the sin issue through His Son, the blood that was shed and the death, burial and resurrection of His own body. God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (2 Cor 5:18-20). We are reconciled to the Father through the Son and not through repentance or confession of sin. That is difficult for you because you put so much weight on repentance and confession of sin. You need to put weight on what the Son did to sin and not what we do with it, for God with take care of that through the Holy Spirit. The following is not one of your favorite passages when you put it line upon line, here a little and there a little and in comparing scripture with scripture...
Rom 10:9,10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:9,10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
E
This shows everyone how foolish people are.
You use this as proof against us, Yet you did not even read what you posted.
In the article, it says he was a professed eternal securist.
Yet he said MAYBE I will see God.
If someone is secure in Christ, they would never say MAYBE I will see God. using this words proves he did not believe in eternal security.
My friend, you should stop. your making yourself look bad.
You use this as proof against us, Yet you did not even read what you posted.
In the article, it says he was a professed eternal securist.
Yet he said MAYBE I will see God.
If someone is secure in Christ, they would never say MAYBE I will see God. using this words proves he did not believe in eternal security.
My friend, you should stop. your making yourself look bad.
Yah, and unbelief is a rebellion against God. One who practices willful sin is rejection God and what He said and did, they simply don't believe what God has said.
The wandering Israelites could not enter into Cannon because of their unbelief. What was their unbelief? 10 out 12 said the giants in the land were to great for them. After all God has done for them supernaturally, they couldn't see how God carried them like son. Paul warns us, Christians, not to be like these Israelites, they are our example of what not to do. You see, willful sin and unbelief are the same thing.
1 Corinthians 10
Old Testament Examples
10 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.”[a]8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all[b] these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
Now why the warning? Paul must have thought that some believers might end up as some of those Israelites, with no inheritance.
The wandering Israelites could not enter into Cannon because of their unbelief. What was their unbelief? 10 out 12 said the giants in the land were to great for them. After all God has done for them supernaturally, they couldn't see how God carried them like son. Paul warns us, Christians, not to be like these Israelites, they are our example of what not to do. You see, willful sin and unbelief are the same thing.
1 Corinthians 10
Old Testament Examples
10 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.”[a]8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all[b] these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
Now why the warning? Paul must have thought that some believers might end up as some of those Israelites, with no inheritance.
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And he did extend his mercy by giving his only begotten son...whom we must obey....because the is the author of eternal salvation to them that obey him....
Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
the maybe was not in doubt of seeing God but in the time....maybe soon...more like sooner or later...because he shows his confidence by saying" I will see" and "Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid." and because soon I will see them........your defence is poor...his word are proof he believed in ES
this is not about judging...according to your doctrine if at any point of his life he was saved... that sin is already forgiven....now you are saying he must account for his actions and answer to God for what he has done.......his sins are already forgiven what actions are you talking about...the Guy had the confidence to write a letter showing his belief...why would you think he is pretending....
