Was the Sabbath (7th day) abolished?

[pengy]

I'd rather a relationship with Christ than chains of religion.

I've heard this one before. It usually comes from people who are negligent when it comes to searching the Scriptures for truth and don't care that they might be living a lie. These are the words of Christ, who you claim to have a relationship with.

John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.

And then His apostle wrote again:

1 John 2:4 He that says, I know Him, but keeps not His commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in Him.

 

[Tintin]

Exactly, Kaycie! Moses was a type of Christ, a foreshadowing of our Messiah. But Jesus the Christ is the real Christ! 100%

 

[Tintin]

I've heard this one before. It usually comes from people who are negligent when it comes to searching the Scriptures for truth and don't care that they might be living a lie. These are the words of Christ, who you claim to have a relationship with.

John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.

And then His apostle wrote again:

1 John 2:4 He that says, I know Him, but keeps not His commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in Him.

Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.

He (Jesus) said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

Matthew 22:37-40

 

[Kaycie]

I once worked at McDonalds. New owners tore down the building and rebuilt it. We not only had new kinds of equipment, but a whole set of new rules as to how we prepare the food. Things ran much smoother, it was a better way. In the old way, as manager, I had to guess what the customers would order and make those kinds of sandwiches ahead of time so that they would be ready upon order, and our drive thru would run faster than making it at the moment it is ordered. The problem with this is if the customer asked for no mustard on their burger, or did not order the premade sandwiches, we had to throw away these premade sandwiches when the timer declared them too old to sell. That was behind the scenes, but to the customer they got the exact same sandwich as in the old building, but it was fresher because it was now made to order.

In the same way, Christ tore down the old and rebuilt the new in three days. The exact same product is still produced, just in a different way. Under Moses it was done physically, but under Christ it is done spiritually. So, for example, take the old law not to murder physically, under Christ if you hate your brother then you are guilty or murder spiritually- whether you carry it out physically or not. So the same product is produced- do not murder, do not even hate to begin with. Jesus says if you love God and love your neighbor you will not murder, steal from your neighbor, or etc, and as a result we obey God just the same as those who were under the law of the prophets- same product/result, but different method/authority.

So what is the difference? There's a HUGE difference! The bible says if you obey part of a law you must obey all of it! Therefore, if you obey any part of the old law, you must do all of it such as stoning people, making payments with animals, and good luck finding a two thousand year old high priest to sacrifice for your sins on your behalf.

So, you see, if you read the scriptures I first posted, you will see that it is not flawed, but made perfect, because under Christ we are free from the old law that was not perfect. (Hebrews 10:4 and Hebrews 7:19 but Colossians 2:14).

 

[pengy]

And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.

(Colossians 2:13-19)



abolished? no.

a law for me to judge or be judged by? no.

Emmanuel has come. He is the substance.

Dear posthuman, it seems that you're completely unaware that besides the weekly Sabbath, there were other sabbaths which were observed in conjunction with feasts. These sabbaths were shadow of Christ and they foretold the rest from the bondage of sin that we would receive through the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.

For the sake of the argument, let's examine what Paul is talking about in the passage that you cited.

1. He's talking to gentile christians (dead in trespasses and uncircumcision of flesh).
2. God forgave ALL of their sins with ONE sacrifice (Christ's sacrifice)
3. God cancelled the record of the trespasses that were against them with legal demands. Speaking in secular terms, it's like having crimes on your record, and the judge makes you do community service for these to be expunged, while others can't. But through Christ, God the judge has erased that list of crimes that was against and would accuse us on the final day. ALL of our sins have been expunged. I capitalize 'ALL' because we're going to come back to it.
4. That list of crimes (trespasses) have been nailed to the cross and rulers and authorities can no longer accuse us.
5. THEREFORE (this words implies that there is a connection between what he just said and what he's about to say) let no one pass judgement on you in question of food and drink, feast, or sabbath days; these are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is Christ.

Very well, let's now analyze the 5th point and clearly you'll see that Paul is not making reference to the 4th commandment. Going back to Leviticus 23, we'll read about these: food, drink, feasts, and sabbath days, and how these are simply shadow of the true substance, Jesus. I'll only quote some of them since there are too many, all in the same chapter.

Leviticus 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord; seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Leviticus 23:13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savor; and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Leviticus 23:27-29 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and you shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord. And you shall do no work on that same day: for it is day of atonement...
Leviticus 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath rest, and ye shall afflict your souls...

Only by reading and understanding these passages can we know what Paul is talking about in Colossians 2. The Israelites had to perform these rituals every year for the forgiveness of their sins over and over, while in Christ, ALL of our sins are forgiven (past, present, future) without having to sacrifice Himself over and over. That's why Paul compares the complete atonement in Christ as I listed on the 3rd point, with the ceremonies performed before Christ's sacrifice.

All in all, Paul is NOT talking about the 4th commandment, but merely about the yearly sabbaths. We don't need to keep observing these along with the feasts, drinks, and foods since the real substance has come and all of our sins have been forgiven.

The passage that you quoted does not say what you think it says. Consider that if you're not keeping the Sabbath holy, you're living in disobedience.

With love in Jesus.

 

[pengy]

What did JESUS do on the day of sabbath, while the religious Jews who follow Moses rested?

Didn't JESUS answer them by saying, when they cautioned HIM about violating the day of Sabbath, that;

"My FATHER is always working, I too must work."

What does this teach Christians to do on the day of Sabbath, when the Jews bound by the Law rested?

Believe and do according to the Grace and Truth of the New Covenant, as how your MASTER did, in faith witnessing, righteousness that exceeds the ones of the Pharisees that JESUS gave.

Those who want to practice what the Jews of the Law of Moses practiced, then that person might as well be 'circumcised' as well.

Apostle Paul said about the bondage the Law of Moses, can cause to the 'flesh', that;

"If you obey one letter of the Law, you must obey all."

"If you disobey even to the least, you are under 'curse'."

Deliberately JESUS 'worked' on the Sabbath, the rest day for the Jews, for HE went into the temple and liberated the sick and lame Jews, and called them to walk freely.

To the Jews the Sabbath observance has become a 'tradition' of men, not knowing the true meaning of it. JESUS knew the full meaning of the Sabbath and practiced accordingly to GOD's will. That is why HE was able to boldly claim that;

"The SON of man is the LORD of/over the Sabbath."

That is why HIS righteousness teachings/words and practices exceeds the ones of the Pharisees, and therefore 'accomplished' the righteous requirement of the Law of GOD and nail them to the Cross.

And so we are called to 'practice' and 'abide' the same that is in 'the way', 'the truth' and 'the life' of the established and written New Covenant, and bear fruits and our fruits must 'abide', according to the 'liberating Law of CHRIST of the SPIRIT', 'liberating' from the 'carnality/fleshly', to SPIRIT/spiritual New Covenant sons and daughter of the 'Heavenly Jerusalem of Sarah.

As it is written, as a reminder and a stir up of memory that;

"To him who have ears, let him listen."

Dear fredjames, notice that you didn't write down one single bible verse for your claims.

Jesus worked for God, not laboriously. In other words, He spent the Sabbath healing, evangelizing, preaching, etc. These are not against the 4th commandment which in it states: "But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God". We as followers of Christ MUST work for God in that day. Remember that Jesus was a carpenter, and that He was never accused of building on the Sabbath, but for healing. Your first point has been refuted.

The Sabbath is not a rest day for jews. It belongs to God, not to the Jews. Jesus Christ said in Mark 2:27 The Sabbath was made for MAN, not man for the Sabbath. Notice, he said 'man', not 'jews'. This argument has been refuted.

The end of the righteousness through the law is DONE with the appearance of Christ. Righteousness can only be attained through faith in Christ.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes.

That's why Paul spoke so harshly against anybody trying to ATTAIN righteousness through the law. That was the grave sin: ATTEMPTING TO REACH RIGHTEOUSNESS THROUGH THE LAW (IGNORING CHRIST'S SACRIFICE). There are parts of the law that STILL must be obeyed. Are you telling me that it's ok to steal, kill, covet?

Dear fredjames, you don't understand what you've read in the bible. Your logic doesn't harmonize with the scriptures.

Lastly, by saying that Jesus worked on the Sabbath, you're taking sides with the scribes and pharisees who accused Him. Are you against Jesus, or for Him? Since Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, only He can teach us how to rightly observe it, not the pharisees, who made a burden of the Sabbath. Why are you agreeing with the pharisees? Were they right? Was Jesus wrong? Your arguments are flawed.

 

[pengy]

I once worked at McDonalds. New owners tore down the building and rebuilt it. We not only had new kinds of equipment, but a whole set of new rules as to how we prepare the food. Things ran much smoother, it was a better way. In the old way, as manager, I had to guess what the customers would order and make those kinds of sandwiches ahead of time so that they would be ready upon order, and our drive thru would run faster than making it at the moment it is ordered. The problem with this is if the customer asked for no mustard on their burger, or did not order the premade sandwiches, we had to throw away these premade sandwiches when the timer declared them too old to sell. That was behind the scenes, but to the customer they got the exact same sandwich as in the old building, but it was fresher because it was now made to order.

In the same way, Christ tore down the old and rebuilt the new in three days. The exact same product is still produced, just in a different way. Under Moses it was done physically, but under Christ it is done spiritually. So, for example, take the old law not to murder physically, under Christ if you hate your brother then you are guilty or murder spiritually- whether you carry it out physically or not. So the same product is produced- do not murder, do not even hate to begin with. Jesus says if you love God and love your neighbor you will not murder, steal from your neighbor, or etc, and as a result we obey God just the same as those who were under the law of the prophets- same product/result, but different method/authority.

So what is the difference? There's a HUGE difference! The bible says if you obey part of a law you must obey all of it! Therefore, if you obey any part of the old law, you must do all of it such as stoning people, making payments with animals, and good luck finding a two thousand year old high priest to sacrifice for your sins on your behalf.

So, you see, if you read the scriptures I first posted, you will see that it is not flawed, but made perfect, because under Christ we are free from the old law that was not perfect. (Hebrews 10:4 and Hebrews 7:19 but Colossians 2:14).

Dear Kaycie, unfortunately the comparison that you made isn't adequate in this case.

The faulty argument used with Colossians 2 has already been used by posthuman and has been refuted. Please read it so that you better understand what Paul is making reference to.

The end of the righteousness through the law is DONE with the appearance of Christ. Righteousness can only be attained through faith in Christ.

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes.

That's why Paul spoke so harshly against anybody trying to ATTAIN righteousness through the law. That was the grave sin: ATTEMPTING TO REACH RIGHTEOUSNESS THROUGH THE LAW (IGNORING CHRIST'S SACRIFICE). There are parts of the law that STILL must be obeyed. Are you telling me that it's ok to steal, kill, covet?

I'll ask you again and don't respond anything else but your answer: Are you telling me that it's ok to steal, kill, covet?

 

[Tintin]

So what is the difference? There's a HUGE difference! The bible says if you obey part of a law you must obey all of it! Therefore, if you obey any part of the old law, you must do all of it such as stoning people, making payments with animals, and good luck finding a two thousand year old high priest to sacrifice for your sins on your behalf.

So, you see, if you read the scriptures I first posted, you will see that it is not flawed, but made perfect, because under Christ we are free from the old law that was not perfect. (Hebrews 10:4 and Hebrews 7:19 but Colossians 2:14).

You're on a roll, Kaycie! After all, one can not serve two masters, both the Law and the LORD.

 

[pengy]

Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.

He (Jesus) said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

Matthew 22:37-40

The famous passage of Matthew 22. This passage refutes exactly what you're trying to defend. The argument used with this passage has already been used by Kaycie and was refuted. I'll paste it here:

If you love God with all of your heart, mind, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself, you will easily obey the 10 commandments.

If you love God: 1. You will have no other Gods 2. You will not make any graven image.. 3. You will not take His name in vain.. 4. You will remember to keep the Sabbath holy... These are the first 4 commandments of the 10.

If you love your neighbor: 5. You will honor father and mother 6. You will not kill 7. You will not commit adultery 8. You will not steal 9. You will not lie 10. You will not covet...

Love equips us to obey God and His law. You CANNOT divorce love and God's law. These two are tightly entwined.

Remember, of these two commandments hang ALL (this includes the 4th commandment) the law and the prophets.

You will not find in the Bible a passage that tells us to not obey the 4th commandment. Stop going so far to make excuses. This is the only commandment that sunday keepers try to sweep under the rug. Why not the other 9? The hypocrisy is focused around only the 4th.

 

[Tintin]

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the difference between needing to obey the Law (Old Covenant) and being obedient because Christ has fulfilled the Law (New Covenant).

 

[pengy]

There is a law and the spirit of the Law.

The spirit of law is love. Everything we do without love is nothing. I don't thing it make any different if you go to church on Saturday or every day. if you don't have love than it nothing.

What the different worship the Lord on Monday or Sunday or Saturday.

Jesus look at our heart not what look like from out side.

Matt 22

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

You can worship God any day you like. But the 4th commandment tells us to REST on the 7th day and dedicate it to God. There's a difference between resting and worshipping. The passage that you wrote down is against you:

On these two commandments hang ALL (includes the 4th commandment) the law and the prophets.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not grievous.

Your argument against keeping the Sabbath doesn't hold.

 

[pengy]

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the difference between needing to obey the Law (Old Covenant) and being obedient because Christ has fulfilled the Law (New Covenant).

Dear Tintin, I understand perfectly the difference. However, it seems like your standpoint has shifted. Now you're saying that we MUST be obedient. Being obedient implies obeying God's commandments. What are we to obey if there are no laws.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the LAW.

If there is NO LAW, then by default there is NO CRIME (SIN).

 

[Tintin]

I didn't say there was no Law, I said Jesus the Christ fulfilled the Law. There's a difference. Obedience only means something if it's born out of love for someone. I choose to obey Christ out of love for Him and what He's done for me, not because someone told me I have to obey Him, to love Him to love others. In Christ, we have freedom. In Christ, we live lives of grace because He first showed us His grace. In Christ, we have Life. Christ made the covenant with us, we didn't make it. We just have to choose to accept or reject Him and His sacrifice. If we accept Him, then we're secure in Him.

 

[JustinFromTwinCities]

Hey Pengy, I'm just curious, how do you personally honor the Sabbath?

 

[pengy]

I didn't say there was no Law, I said Jesus the Christ fulfilled the Law. There's a difference. Obedience only means something if it's born out of love for someone. I choose to obey Christ out of love for Him and what He's done for me, not because someone told me I have to obey Him, to love Him to love others. In Christ, we have freedom. In Christ, we live lives of grace because He first showed us His grace. In Christ, we have Life. Christ made the covenant with us, we didn't make it. We just have to choose to accept or reject Him and His sacrifice. If we accept Him, then we're secure in Him.

I agree and respect your answer dear Tintin
However, we personally don't establish what love towards Christ is. He is the one who does that. I don't choose how to love Him.
Remember:

John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.

Obeying the 4th commandment is one of His commandments.

 

[Sylven]

The 4th commandment speaks to God being the Creator. it is the only commandment that says to remember it, and it is the longest commandment of the 10
The argument that the Sabbath was for the Jews, not true, It was a memorial of Creation, given to man By God, right after creation. It is one of two things that remained after mans fall from the garden of Eden, Marriage, and the Sabbath (mind you Adam and Eve were not Jews)

Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Note that does not say for the Jew.

Note not only the Jews but the Gentiles (strangers vs 56:6)

Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

It is the ONLY day blessed by God:

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The Bible is about worship and WHO we worship:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Compare the above with the actual commandment given, It points to God has the creator of all things:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It was so important that God spent 40 years showing the Israelite when the Sabbath was. (story of the Manna from heaven)

Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Exo 16:24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

It was to be a sign between God and his people to be kept for ALL Generations :

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Exo_31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Exo_31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Eze_20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Eze_20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

Another Promise from God if his Sabbath was kept:

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

It will be kept in the new Heaven and on the New Earth at re-creation:

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

It was so important that it is mentioned over in over 150 separate verses in the Bible, and 30 of them are in the New Testament.

It was the Day kept by Jesus and He is the LORD of the Sabbath:

Mat_12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mar_1:21 And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.

Mar_6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

Luk_4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Jesus said it was ok to do "Good Works" on the Sabbath day:

Luk 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luk_14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?

Joh_9:14 And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes.

In speaking on the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple to come in 70AD Jesus made this prophesy indicating it would still be kept after his crucifixion:

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

IT was Kept by his followers the DAY of his crucifixion:

Luk_23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Joh_19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The Apostles ALL kept the Sabbath after his crucifixion:

Act_13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act_13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act_13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act_15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Act_16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
Act_17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Act_18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Heb 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Jesus said, "if you love me keep my commandments." .

Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn_5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jn_1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[pengy]

Hey Pengy, I'm just curious, how do you personally honor the Sabbath?

Dear JustinFromTwinCities,

We don't work on the Sabbath for financial gain nor laboriously.
We don't cook on the Sabbath.
We don't buy or sell on the Sabbath. (The mark of the beast (sunday law) prohibits buying & selling unless you submit to beast which is the Pope; notice the connection between obedience to Sabbath command, and disobedience to future sunday command).
We fellowship.
We pray.
We study the Bible.
We visit families.
We preach.

There are exceptions to some of these whenever emergencies arise. For example, if we're on the road and come across a person whose car has a flat tire, we must show mercy and help the person. Things of these nature. The Sabbath is a day to show mercy and love; a day in which we detach ourselves from the duties of this world and focus on the duties of God.

For the sake of obeying Matthew 6:3, I'll stop there.

 

[pengy]

The 4th commandment speaks to God being the Creator. it is the only commandment that says to remember it, and it is the longest commandment of the 10
The argument that the Sabbath was for the Jews, not true, It was a memorial of Creation, given to man By God, right after creation. It is one of two things that remained after mans fall from the garden of Eden, Marriage, and the Sabbath (mind you Adam and Eve were not Jews)

Mar_2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Note that does not say for the Jew.

Note not only the Jews but the Gentiles (strangers vs 56:6)

Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

It is the ONLY day blessed by God:

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The Bible is about worship and WHO we worship:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Compare the above with the actual commandment given, It points to God has the creator of all things:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It was so important that God spent 40 years showing the Israelite when the Sabbath was. (story of the Manna from heaven)

Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Exo 16:24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

It was to be a sign between God and his people to be kept for ALL Generations :

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Exo_31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Exo_31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Eze_20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Eze_20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

Another Promise from God if his Sabbath was kept:

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

It will be kept in the new Heaven and on the New Earth at re-creation:

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

It was so important that it is mentioned over in over 150 separate verses in the Bible, and 30 of them are in the New Testament.

It was the Day kept by Jesus and He is the LORD of the Sabbath:

Mat_12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mar_1:21 And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.

Mar_6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

Luk_4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Jesus said it was ok to do "Good Works" on the Sabbath day:

Luk 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luk_14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?

Joh_9:14 And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes.

In speaking on the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple to come in 70AD Jesus made this prophesy indicating it would still be kept after his crucifixion:

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

IT was Kept by his followers the DAY of his crucifixion:

Luk_23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Joh_19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The Apostles ALL kept the Sabbath after his crucifixion:

Act_13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act_13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act_13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act_15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Act_16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
Act_17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Act_18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Heb 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Jesus said, "if you love me keep my commandments." .

Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn_5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jn_1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Right on Sylven

 

[JustinFromTwinCities]

Thanks for your response. So you are a SDA or..?

 

[pengy]

Thanks for your response. So you are a SDA or..?

Dear JustinFromTwinCities,

I am not a seventh day adventist. I don't belong to any religion or sect. We gather in homes and have no affiliation with the government. What about you?