How Many Free Coupons Can You Use Until They Should Cost Something?

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Lynx

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seoulsearch I appreciate what you are trying to say. At the same time I have to say you are missing the whole point of those free coupons. They WANT you to come in for something free. If they didn't, they wouldn't have had the coupons printed up. Some customers take it to an extreme, but that shouldn't make you feel guilty for using one coupon in the way the store itself INTENDED it to be used.

I'll say that again: They WANT you to come in for something free. It's called a free sample. The only difference is they print out coupons, basically to advertise their free samples.
 

Lynx

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You didn't mention restaurant coupons. I have taken advantage of those as well. I am careful to tip according to the non-discounted price however. For example, if using a 2-for-1 coupon and my check is for $15, I will tip according to the $30 non-discounted price. My momma taught me that!
Hmm... My momma taught me that eh?

Watch this space (well, this forum) for a new thread, coming soon to a CC near you.
 

seoulsearch

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Yup.

I'm just asking how many free samples you should get before actually paying for something. I'm enjoying that it's turned into a good discussion... Some people will say, free is free, take all you want... and others are saying they do eventually decide to make a purchase. As with anything, opinions will differ, and I've been enjoying reading everyone's answers.

I think another part of the puzzle is that God often convicts us all a little differently as well.
 
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Lynx

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Sure free is free, but the point of gluttony is quickly reached. How many donuts do I really need?

Also there is the spirit of the thing. The store is wanting me to try one. If I try fifteen with no intention to ever buy one, that is not in the spirit of the promotion and I am well aware of it. Trying one with no intention of ever buying any I have no problem with. They expect most people to try one, move on and never buy any. They're after those few who try one, love it and buy more.

But most stores with any sense will print "Limit one per customer" on the free sample coupon. That's fine by me, but it might crimp someone else's freeloading style.
 

CatHerder

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Sure free is free, but the point of gluttony is quickly reached. How many donuts do I really need?
as many donuts as there are stars in the sky...
 

Lynx

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Now if we were in a certain other forum you would get jumped on by, at minimum, five different people yelling at you that gluttony is a sin. :rolleyes:
 

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Ok ok, I used to actually design the coupons for a company I used to work for and the coupons were my idea. They're basically just a way of getting you to try a product or service. They're not really designed to save you money, that's just an unintended effect. The company makes coupons so Sally or Bob will try their product instead of buying product X which they always buy. No executive ever sat down and said "how can we help our customers save money" unless they're talking about luring the customer with lower prices (that's a whole other ball game in itself).
Its all about getting you to buy and try their product or service.
 
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I feel guilty taking food samples at the grocery story when I know I'm not going to buy any. :p

For some reason, that doesn't apply to store discounts though. I don't know why... maybe because it's less personal? Part of me rationalizes that the store wouldn't offer it if it didn't make them money in the long run.

(If Hobby Lobby can keep a running coupon for 40% off anything in their store, does that mean they are marking everything in the store up 60% to begin with?)

I don't work in retail, you can probably tell. Haha.
If you're secretly building models in your spare time, now is the time to fess up. And if those happen to be like, model space ships or something, that would be awesome.



As far as sale prices, many stores rely on a hefty mark up. Clothing stores are an excellent example. Anyone who pays full price for clothing must have really wanted it, because it's always on sale (and I do mean always). The sale price varies but the price is never what's on the tag.


People mentioned buy one get one free offers. Those are another prime example. Often a product is so frequently discounted that the buy one get one free price is literally pennies different than the normal sticker price.




I was going to go into a whole spiel about nobody pays full sticker for canned goods, but I got lazy with this joke.

The only free coupons I've seen where they actually give you something free are from Harbor Freight. Its usually one of those little flashlights or scissors or a screwdriver. The only other ones are where you buy something at regular price and you get one free (usually you have to buy more than one). If there was a place that gave free donuts around here, I'd be in big trouble.. emphasis on BIG. :p
I freaking love that store!

Harbor freight has a funny pricing strategy though. Ever walk in there and not buy something because it wasn't on sale? I have more than once, because I know that it will go on sale next month, and the non sale price is often more expensive or the same price as the Home Depot across the street.

Plus they always have a 20 percent off a single item coupon floating around. It's not valid on generators and engines, but I don't buy very many of those things. Oh and jacks, often it's not valid on jacks.



Harbor freight. Man I love that store. I wish they sold groceries, although if they did I'd be dirt poor. I'd probably be buying a socket wrench every time I needed a head of lettuce.
 
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I was just in Hobby Lobby tonight. Buying modeling paste for some paintings I'm working on. (I got it for 40% off.) ;) I DID build an entire miniature dollhouse for my daughters years ago ServantStrike. It had hardwood floors installed plank-by-plank, electricity on all three floors, and other intricate details. Not a space ship, but I think you'd have appreciated the tiny craftsmanship!

I love Harbor Freight too!! :D

JC Penney gives out $10 off coupons that aren't dependent on how much you spend. You can go in with one of those and buy something for $10.00 and literally pay nothing for it. Pretty amazing.
 

Lynx

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Ok ok, I used to actually design the coupons for a company I used to work for and the coupons were my idea. They're basically just a way of getting you to try a product or service. They're not really designed to save you money, that's just an unintended effect. The company makes coupons so Sally or Bob will try their product instead of buying product X which they always buy. No executive ever sat down and said "how can we help our customers save money" unless they're talking about luring the customer with lower prices (that's a whole other ball game in itself).
Its all about getting you to buy and try their product or service.
You... it was YOU! Foul fiend, trying to lure us innocent customers in with promises of savings!

(Yeah, I know, it was a job... but it was fun to say that.) :D
 

seoulsearch

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Thank you so much for the cool discussion, everyone, and I hope it will continue as long as people have ideas to add. To me, this is the whole point of having threads.

A major inspiration for this thread was a meeting I had this week with our district Loss Prevention Coordinator. One of my jobs is to scan out the things we sample in our department so that they don't turn up as missing inventory in the records.

The whole reason for her visit was because of bottom-line (profit) losses and she kept emphasizing to me over over and over again that the entire purpose of sampling is so that people will make a purchase. I kept thinking, "Of course, but it's not like I can make someone buy something."

This, of course, is never the acceptable answer. Supervisors always want to hear that you sampled out 10 and sold 1000, when usually it is goes the other way (1000 samples, maybe 10 sales.)

I was wondering how other Christians reacted to these kinds of situations... Not only are people bringing up some really interesting points, I'm also learning some secrets of where and how to shop smarter! ;)
 

zeroturbulence

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Thank you so much for the cool discussion, everyone, and I hope it will continue as long as people have ideas to add. To me, this is the whole point of having threads.

A major inspiration for this thread was a meeting I had this week with our district Loss Prevention Coordinator. One of my jobs is to scan out the things we sample in our department so that they don't turn up as missing inventory in the records.

The whole reason for her visit was because of bottom-line (profit) losses and she kept emphasizing to me over over and over again that the entire purpose of sampling is so that people will make a purchase. I kept thinking, "Of course, but it's not like I can make someone buy something."

This, of course, is never the acceptable answer. Supervisors always want to hear that you sampled out 10 and sold 1000, when usually it is goes the other way (1000 samples, maybe 10 sales.)

I was wondering how other Christians reacted to these kinds of situations... Not only are people bringing up some really interesting points, I'm also learning some secrets of where and how to shop smarter! ;)
Loss Prevention Coordinator. Just the fact that they have someone with that title tells me that that business is clueless. :rolleyes:
 

seoulsearch

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Loss Prevention Coordinator. Just the fact that they have someone with that title tells me that that business is clueless. :rolleyes:
Every business has a Loss Prevention Department in some way, shape, or form. Their job is to take care of any "leaks" in the business in whatever forms they appear. One of the main things they also address is theft, whether by employees or customers.

I was asking this girl about how she got her job and she was telling me that one of her responsibilities is to also work as a plainclothes person--someone who goes into a store as a regular "customer" but is there to catch shoplifters, which is a major, major problem in the area (meaning the entire community) where I work.
 

zeroturbulence

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Every business has a Loss Prevention Department in some way, shape, or form. Their job is to take care of any "leaks" in the business in whatever forms they appear. One of the main things they also address is theft, whether by employees or customers.

I was asking this girl about how she got her job and she was telling me that one of her responsibilities is to also work as a plainclothes person--someone who goes into a store as a regular "customer" but is there to catch shoplifters, which is a major, major problem in the area (meaning the entire community) where I work.
I used to work at a large department store and they had people who did that, but we called them 'security'. They had hidden walkie talkies in their purses or under their clothes. I guess loss prevention is the new word for security.
 

seoulsearch

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I used to work at a large department store and they had people who did that, but we called them 'security'. They had hidden walkie talkies in their purses or under their clothes. I guess loss prevention is the new word for security.
Hi Zero,

I could be wrong, but security is actually only a smaller part of the overall responsibilities of Loss Prevention. There might be different names and classifications, but it's all a way to address any and all losses a business has.

For example, if your store is losing money because of over-ordering (and having to throw out or mark down a lot of product), that's considered part of Loss Prevention too (at least, in the businesses where I've worked--it might be called other things at other places). Loss Prevention will get you to try to be more accurate in ordering to minimize that loss (though it's impossible to get right 100% of the time because no one can always predict what will sell and what won't).

It also addresses things such as cash control at the registers. Several years ago I worked in a store where a cashier was stealing by altering checks and taking the cash. For example, if a customer wrote a check for $10, she would alter it to say $100 and pocket the extra $90 for herself. It took several weeks to gather enough evidence to go after her because she was able to do all of this without being caught on camera (they first noticed it because obviously the books weren't coming out right.)

Dealing with these kinds of leaks all fall under the department of Loss Prevention, at least where I've worked.

As a side note, what made me especially sad in the case I just mentioned is that many of our customers were elderly and struggling to make it on fixed incomes. The cashier who was doing this was a young single mother (which is NOT saying meant to condemn single moms AT ALL), but I say this because I am always amazed at how some people seem to have no conscience. Her only remorse was getting caught, meaning, she would just try to get another job and would do it again. (Ironically, I worked in an area where things like theft and embezzlement were so common that many people, even after being convicted, were still able to find jobs.)

Maybe she justified her actions by saying, "I'm doing this to help feed my kids," but I thought it was especially noteworthy, and heartbreaking, that she was stealing from another group of low-income people who were struggling just as much as she was.
 
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kayem77

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I think it's okay to use the coupons they send you, but I would feel bad about trying to use ALL coupons at the same time. Or only buying things in a store with coupons ALL the time. As in, never paying with your own money
. I've always been like this, but now that I work in a restaurant and people come and try to use all kinds of discounts and coupons sometimes, I know how annoying it can be. It actually does damage the company when everyone is trying to get something for free no matter what. Where I work, we can't accept two coupons at the same time, and sometimes people get mad because of that. Or they get mad because we don't accept their over-expired coupons from 2 years ago. Or because we don't combine their whatever discount they have with a coupon. I mean, seriously? You're already paying less than the original price, can you be thankful?

On the other hand though, I do like coupons and I wish I could remember to use them more often :) . I'm just not very good at managing coupons and knowing when/where to use them.

PS. Be nice to your retail clerk/cashiers! They don't create the rules, so don't give them a hard time when you can't use a coupon.
 

Lynx

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For some reason I'm reminded of a guy I used to know in a chatroom, who was talking about one day his wife went to the supermarket armed with coupons, got two BIG bags of groceries... and after all the coupons the balance came out negative. The store actually paid her a bit more than nine bucks.

Wait, what?

He said it was perfectly legal, they did double coupons and they knew what they were doing, but he still felt a little bad about the store paying HIM for what he got.
 

seoulsearch

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^^^ I could see how this could happen in the form of rebates/reward systems (for example, they'd racked up enough points on a reward program to earn cash back.) Double coupons are very popular but it's getting harder to find stores that do this because of these very kinds of things happening. I could see doing this once in a while but if it's on a regular basis...

I'm pretty sure that for me, personally, my conscience would eventually come after me. I also believe in the "reap what you sow" principle. If someone is constantly cutting corners in a way that cheats other people, it could come back to them. They'll wonder why the car always breaks down, they can't find a higher paying job, or they didn't get the raise they asked for. Of course, it's not always this cut and dry but I as I keep saying, I do believe there are lines to be drawn.

Couponing is big business. But as with everything, there is a border of ethics, and that was the purpose of this thread--to talk about where the line is drawn and what the boundaries are, which obviously, seem to be a little different with most everyone.

One of the problems is that people are making money off coupons--they take them, put them on the internet or advertise them, and sell them to other people.

At my last job, we ran into the problem all the time of people posting our franchise's coupons on the internet--people would go to the sites with copies of our coupons, run multiple copies for themselves, and then expect to redeem all of them. When we explained that this was not a valid coupon because it had been sold and copied off the internet, the person would always say, "But that's not MY fault. Doesn't your store believe in customer service?"

Now days customer service means catering to every whim and tantrum a person throws, even if they're doing something wrong, which is why I loathe it so much.

In the case of legal couponing, I've heard of clubs that go out and will do things such as buy every Sunday edition of the local newspaper and sell the coupons inside. Some people have less scrupulous means, such as helping themselves to all the coupon flyers in a stack of newspapers, disguising them among their other things or stuffing them in one paper, and then buying just that one paper. Or going to stands where you pay for one paper, open up the display, and then take either all the papers or all the coupons from the other papers.

It's possible, but I've also heard that it takes vast amounts of work and time, and many websites are devoted to couponing as a near-professional occupation.

Sure, I'd love to walk out of a store with $100 worth of groceries for $2 too. But sometimes, I tell myself that one of the ways I'm serving God is by paying money for the things I need in order to help other people feed their families, too.
 

Lynx

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Yeah, back when I was a kid my father would always get the Sunday paper (and read the comics before we kids could destroy it.) He would get one from the middle of the stack because some greedy goon always got there first and um... "harvested" the coupons from the top paper on the stack.

On the other hand... one might have license to call you a corporate shill, seoulsearch, for starting this thread to talk about a point that is in your company's interest. sorry, just had to say that :rolleyes:
 

seoulsearch

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Are you kidding? :)

I wouldn't work in a corporate setting at all if I felt I had the option.

I was fortunate to work in a privately owned store for a long time that made its own rules. And as the kid of someone who built a business with their own health as the sacrifice, I've seen a little of both sides of the coin.

I would love to work in a non-corporate setting--t's just that now days it's nearly impossible to not work for corporate in the areas I want to work.