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chattykathy3

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Hi everyone, my husband and I are both christian, and have been married only 7 months. However, it already feels like we are an "old married couple".. And not in a good way. We constantly argue, sex feels like a chore to me, and there's deadly silence that lasts most of the day unless we're making small chat. I've tried to tell my husband that I need romance, and I need him to ask me how my day is going, and just act like he cares in general, but nothing has happened. I think we've been on one date since we've been married, and it was mostly silence at the table. In public, we put on this great show and everyone thinks we are so in love, but at home, I feel like I am completely alone. He is extremely distant unless I blow up and cry and yell, but that can't be healthy to have to do every time I need some affection. If something he does hurts my feelings and I tell him, he usually just loses his temper, says I'm being crazy, and then we sit in silence until he changes the subject and talks about the weather and pretends nothing ever happened. If I try to resolve things, he just loses his temper again so I've learned to just drop it and suck up any hurt I may have. I feel extremely alone and unappreciated.... The idea that it's already this bad terrifies me. I don't want to live our entire lives like this. I don't know what else to do. I've tried giving him time, I've tried praying, we pray together every night, we go to church, we've even gone to counseling even though he stopped going, and the cycle just never ends....
Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
 
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if you're in christ jesus, he has already said you are married for life. no option to leave.
if you're an unbeliever, you may leave anytime and not look back.
 
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Sirk

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Hi everyone, my husband and I are both christian, and have been married only 7 months. However, it already feels like we are an "old married couple".. And not in a good way. We constantly argue, sex feels like a chore to me, and there's deadly silence that lasts most of the day unless we're making small chat. I've tried to tell my husband that I need romance, and I need him to ask me how my day is going, and just act like he cares in general, but nothing has happened. I think we've been on one date since we've been married, and it was mostly silence at the table. In public, we put on this great show and everyone thinks we are so in love, but at home, I feel like I am completely alone. He is extremely distant unless I blow up and cry and yell, but that can't be healthy to have to do every time I need some affection. If something he does hurts my feelings and I tell him, he usually just loses his temper, says I'm being crazy, and then we sit in silence until he changes the subject and talks about the weather and pretends nothing ever happened. If I try to resolve things, he just loses his temper again so I've learned to just drop it and suck up any hurt I may have. I feel extremely alone and unappreciated.... The idea that it's already this bad terrifies me. I don't want to live our entire lives like this. I don't know what else to do. I've tried giving him time, I've tried praying, we pray together every night, we go to church, we've even gone to counseling even though he stopped going, and the cycle just never ends....
Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
You guys aren't resolving your painful issues. Anger is a secondary emotion and it's underlying cause is.......yup....you guessed it....painful feelings. One or both of you are stuck in a pain cycle and hurting people hurt people.
 
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Sounds like you have tried lots of things and that life is tough right now, I'm sorry you are struggling.
If you are willing to look at a book, "Boundaries" by Cloud and Townsend might be worth a read. Continue to pray, God really does care.
Have you heard of "the love dare"? Another book to potentially look at.
 
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Hi everyone, my husband and I are both christian, and have been married only 7 months. However, it already feels like we are an "old married couple".. And not in a good way. We constantly argue, sex feels like a chore to me, and there's deadly silence that lasts most of the day unless we're making small chat. I've tried to tell my husband that I need romance, and I need him to ask me how my day is going, and just act like he cares in general, but nothing has happened. I think we've been on one date since we've been married, and it was mostly silence at the table. In public, we put on this great show and everyone thinks we are so in love, but at home, I feel like I am completely alone. He is extremely distant unless I blow up and cry and yell, but that can't be healthy to have to do every time I need some affection. If something he does hurts my feelings and I tell him, he usually just loses his temper, says I'm being crazy, and then we sit in silence until he changes the subject and talks about the weather and pretends nothing ever happened. If I try to resolve things, he just loses his temper again so I've learned to just drop it and suck up any hurt I may have. I feel extremely alone and unappreciated.... The idea that it's already this bad terrifies me. I don't want to live our entire lives like this. I don't know what else to do. I've tried giving him time, I've tried praying, we pray together every night, we go to church, we've even gone to counseling even though he stopped going, and the cycle just never ends....
Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
Marriages have their ups and downs, so there's nothing to say this will get worse. It's good that you've been to counseling and are praying. You might want to continue counseling even without him. It could help you clarify your feelings and your options. You don't need to make an either/or decision right now, though. I'm really sorry you're going through this.
 

santuzza

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Personally, I believe your need to invest in your marriage more. By that, I mean that you need to take more of an interest in your husband. Draw him out. Ask him how his day was -- don't wait for him to initiate that conversation. Forgive me if I sound rude, but what I hear a lot of in your OP is all about you and how you're feeling. Put that aside a bit (not totally...) and start focusing on how to make things better for him. It's amazing how things can change once you take the focus off yourself and put it on your spouse. Your hubby WILL notice and will start to do the same for you. To make a marriage work, we truly need to put the other person's needs ahead of our own.
 

presidente

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Hi everyone, my husband and I are both christian, and have been married only 7 months. However, it already feels like we are an "old married couple".. And not in a good way. We constantly argue, sex feels like a chore to me, and there's deadly silence that lasts most of the day unless we're making small chat. I've tried to tell my husband that I need romance, and I need him to ask me how my day is going, and just act like he cares in general, but nothing has happened. I think we've been on one date since we've been married, and it was mostly silence at the table. In public, we put on this great show and everyone thinks we are so in love, but at home, I feel like I am completely alone. He is extremely distant unless I blow up and cry and yell, but that can't be healthy to have to do every time I need some affection. If something he does hurts my feelings and I tell him, he usually just loses his temper, says I'm being crazy, and then we sit in silence until he changes the subject and talks about the weather and pretends nothing ever happened. If I try to resolve things, he just loses his temper again so I've learned to just drop it and suck up any hurt I may have. I feel extremely alone and unappreciated.... The idea that it's already this bad terrifies me. I don't want to live our entire lives like this. I don't know what else to do. I've tried giving him time, I've tried praying, we pray together every night, we go to church, we've even gone to counseling even though he stopped going, and the cycle just never ends....

Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
Many years ago, my wife and I lived overseas. We actually had a maid. They were so cheap to hire and give someone a job. It was a predominantly Muslim country, and the maids all went home for Idul Fitri. Just about anyone with a maid in the city was maidless for a week. I was looking forward to the break for the holiday to take care of some things, but then I spent a lot of time mopping floors and doing dishes and so did my wife. My mug broke at or before the beginning o the week and we had all these glasses that looked alike. I don't like to drink after people or drink water out of a glass I had milk in hours before, so I'd get a new glass from time to time. It burned my wife up that I wasn't using the same glass all day long.

After a few days, things were really tense between us. She was really grumpy. So I told her we needed to pray about this. I asked the Lord to send His Spirit to work on our hearts to bring forgiveness, healing. I told her we could confess any sins and forgive.

Just a few minutes later, all that resentment was gone. I know this is a shorter time frame than what's been going on with you. But if you two actually forgive each other and pray and let the Lord work in your marriage, He can take care of this ill will between you. I think if you both had a good heart-to-heart and some prayer where you both humbled yourselves and asked forgiveness for being harsh to each other, that this stuff could be resolved. Even the sexual part wouldn't have to feel like a chore if you both were in a right place with each other.

Ideally, the husband should suggest to his wife that you do this, but you could also. Why don't you suggest that you pray together every day or every night. I've read that far less than 1% of married Christian couples who pray together regularly get divorced. The rates for those who profess to be evangelical Christians are close to those of the secular world in the US. So praying together is something to think about. I don't think praying together just makes people who hate each other have the power to stay together. I believe it also helps the relationship.

There are also some things that you can do as a wife to help encourage him to be kind and loving. If you are very kind and loving to him, that can help. I Peter 3 says that a wife being submissive to a husband who does not obey the truth might even win him. So it is also important as a wife to be submissive to your husband.

What kinds of things do you like him to do for you? I was thinking yesterday that I really do like it if I've worked hard on something and my wife shows me some appreciation and even affection because of it. My wife appreciates that, too. I like it if I come home and my wife is excited to see me. She pays attention to me and gives me a big hug and a kiss when I come in. My wife likes that sort of thing, too. So I can make my wife enjoy the marriage more by showing some genuine appreciation for things she does, by greeting her if she comes home from shopping, and things like that. If I do that, she may do the same thing more as well. My wife likes it if I drink tea or coffee with her and chat for a while. Unless I'm working a 14 hour day or something like that, drinking tea or coffee with my wife is an easy way to connect with her and make her feel appreciated.

If you both get to the point where you know buttons to push to make the other person feel appreciated, respected, loved, etc., then marriage can be enjoyable. If he's not doing that, maybe he's upset because you are pushing the wrong buttons, or he doesn't know what buttons to push. Or he just hasn't thought about it or figured this thing out. So you can start trying to make a change in the marriage.

There are lots of things to experiment with. How about this? Let's say you are at home before he gets home from work. You make a drink he likes, tea, lemonade, or whatever. When he comes home, you greet him at the door with a hug and a passionate kiss. Ask him if he'd like to sit down and have a glass of lemonade. You just made some with him. Sit down on the floor at his feet leaning against his leg as he drinks it. That might be a good time to suggest ways to improve the marriage. Don't yell suggestions for how to improve the marriage during an argument. Do it while he's relaxed. Be very calm about it.

When we first got married, my wife would approach something she'd want to address in our marriage with, "Do you mind if I tell you something?" while we were laying in bed in one another's embrace. Of course, I'd say yes. Then, very gently, she'd bring up a sensitive topic. That was the best way to do it. There have been times when she'd get upset and say the same sort of thing in an angry tone of voice. That didn't help nearly as much. If someone is upset and attacks something you do, you don't really hear much of what they are saying as you formulate your response or try to process all the extra unneeded drama and emotion that goes with it. Being gentle and respectful is best. Proverbs 25:15 says that a soft word can break a bone. Staying humble, even if you've had arguments in the past, can really help resolve conflicts and bring healing. God gives grace to the humble, and it sounds like you need His help.

You could also gently suggest that you confess your sins to each other and pray with and for each other about forgiveness and having a good marriage. You could write up a list beforehand of little things you like him to do. Not like buying diamonds, :) but things like asking you how your day was, or drinking tea with you, or greeting you with a hug and a kiss, or the way he talks to you.

Maybe your husband is an introvert and doesn't like to talk a lot. If there is no resentment between you, you might be able to sit in silence without tension, or you may talk a lot more. If he's the quiet type or tired from work, you may learn not to let a little silence bother you. If I am totally stressed out, sometimes I want silence. My wife wants to talk. We have to work on that.

I'd suggest you read 'Love and Respect' by Eggerichs. My wife and I had a Sunday School class at church based on this book with a lot of other married couples and they all seemed to think it was helpful and useful. It's written by a man, so you will get a lot of insight into how a man ticks and what helps you get along with a man. But for a book written by a man, I think it does a pretty good job of telling men how to get along with their wives. The wives in the class seemed to think it was helpful.


If you two were to divorce and remarry over this, the Bible calls that adultery, and you don't want to do that. And it wouldn't make sense to divorce and marry someone else and experience the same stuff in that marriage. That's what happens a lot, unresolved issues are taken into other marriages, and that's probably why those who have been divorced have so high of a chance of being divorced again, one reason at least.
 

JesusLives

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Pray to God first and give Him your troubles and things that are hurting you and ask God to work things out for you as nothing is impossible for God.

Remember the following:
We can't change the other person we can only change ourselves. You want a fantastic husband then you become a fantastic wife. What areas are bothering you? He didn't talk to you so when you have dinner talk to him. Make his favorite dinner and tell him about your day. Take another area that bothers you and you do that for him in love. Men like to know that they are respected and women want to know they are loved and feel secure.

Love changes and it does take a while to get used to living with each other. If he takes out the trash tell him you appreciate the help if he doesn't then ask him to please help you as you need him. Men like to feel needed too. You both loved each other at some point or you would not have married him. Marriage takes work and love and both partners have to be in 100% to have 100% good marriage. Talk to those who have been married a long time and they will tell you that it isn't always fun and games, but that it is rewarding when you work at it and when God is in the number one spot they rarely fail.
 

tourist

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Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
He has already found someone who makes him happy and that is you. You need a little romance and he needs a little space. Perhaps a compromise will allow for a little luster for your marriage.
 
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Sirk

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Get the book "Safe Harbor Marriage" and read it together......or by yourself if he won't
 

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Hi everyone, my husband and I are both christian, and have been married only 7 months. However, it already feels like we are an "old married couple".. And not in a good way. We constantly argue, sex feels like a chore to me, and there's deadly silence that lasts most of the dayunless we're making small chat. I've tried to tell my husband that I need romance, and I need him to ask me how my day is going, and just act like he cares in general, but nothing has happened. I think we've been on one date since we've been married, and it was mostly silence at the table. In public, we put on this great show and everyone thinks we are so in love, but at home, I feel like I am completely alone. He is extremely distant unless I blow up and cry and yell, but that can't be healthy to have to do every time I need some affection. If something he does hurts my feelings and I tell him, he usually just loses his temper, says I'm being crazy, and then we sit in silence until he changes the subject and talks about the weather and pretends nothing ever happened. If I try to resolve things, he just loses his temper again so I've learned to just drop it and suck up any hurt I may have. I feel extremely alone and unappreciated.... The idea that it's already this bad terrifies me. I don't want to live our entire lives like this. I don't know what else to do. I've tried giving him time, I've tried praying, we pray together every night, we go to church, we've even gone to counseling even though he stopped going, and the cycle just never ends....
Do I stay and let the resentment and hurt silently build every day, or do I leave and hope he finds someone who makes him happier?
I did put some color in the quote. It seems to me there is a cycle of bad communication. Was the communication better when you were not married? Do you see a change in his personality before and after marriage?
I also wonder why he stopped counseling. Can you tell why he thinks counseling is not needed? Is it maybe because he says that you are the problem in the marriage? What is he doing with his temper issue?
 
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chattykathy3

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Hi everyone, thank you all so much for taking the time to reach out. I am going to try all the suggestions that I haven't already tried or thought of from you all. It sounds like I wasn't fully clear, so let me be a little more specific. Our communication has always been a problem, even before we got married. I think we used to fight a lot, but now it's just silence instead usually... Which just might be worse. Some of you said that I sound like it's all about what I need, but i am fully aware I am only half of this equation. Believe Me, I have done EVERYTHING I can think of to get him to talk to me or tell me what he needs. I've asked him quietly in peaceful moments, or loudly when I'm frustrated, and I've even just given him space. You need to know that when I approach him in almost ANY way, he gets agitated. Now I am not trying to make my husband sound bad here, simply trying to understand him better. I am not kidding when I tell you that even when I ask him how his day was or what's on his mind in a kind way, he almost always immediately snaps back something like, "BABE IM FINE." Then that's it... And if I press further, he loses his temper.
How am I supposed to work with that? The only thing that seems to make him happy is when I am gone or doing chores or being productive while being extremely silent. His activity that he loves is mainly investing... He will wake up early and be on his phone or computer watching the market from sun up until we are laying in bed about to go to sleep. I've tried to get his attention or affection by offering silent massages, trying to talk about life, wearing lingerie, working hard around the house, cleaning his truck, reminding him how attractive he is to me, and even trying to bond by asking him about stock stuff. I just seem to run into a cold shoulder at all times.
I feel unwelcome in our house and I'm terrified... I know God doesn't approve of divorce, and neither do I so it's not an option. But the idea of living in this prison haunts me constantly.
Also, I've literally told him I need him to ask me how my day is, and take me on dates now and then, and use some romance... But nothing yet. I watched fireproof, so I'm trying that approach but it's exhausting, and disappointing to watch myself work so hard only to feel like a pain. Also, we already pray together every night before bed.
How can I do this all by myself? I understand I need to lean on God but what is the point of marriage if you are better off asking the wall to love you?
 
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chattykathy3

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Thank you so much. It is refreshing to be understood and I am going to go back to counseling even if it just me.
 
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chattykathy3

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Wonderful advice, I so appreciate it. I am going to try to really focus on being respectful and submissive.
 
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chattykathy3

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Oh and I should mention that it's always silent... We do plenty of taking about shallow things such as the weather, the stock market, the dogs, etc. it's just silent or angry when I try to talk about anything on a deeper level. Thank you all for the great advice!
 
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keepitsimple

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Wonderful advice, I so appreciate it. I am going to try to really focus on being respectful and submissive.
Be very cautious with the "submissive" approach. From what I've read so far, it appears to me that you're already playing that card sufficiently ... to no avail. And "submission" in many christian circles today is very much misunderstood ... and taken advantage of. The door mat says welcome ... not walk-on. Just keep that in mind. I would continue going to counseling for the time being and working on your end of it as properly as you can ... for your own sake ... but sooner or later, (the sooner the better), dear hubby is going to have to open up his heart to you in a manner that is befitting every wife. just sayin" :)
 
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kaylagrl

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Hi everyone, thank you all so much for taking the time to reach out. I am going to try all the suggestions that I haven't already tried or thought of from you all. It sounds like I wasn't fully clear, so let me be a little more specific. Our communication has always been a problem, even before we got married. I think we used to fight a lot, but now it's just silence instead usually... Which just might be worse. Some of you said that I sound like it's all about what I need, but i am fully aware I am only half of this equation. Believe Me, I have done EVERYTHING I can think of to get him to talk to me or tell me what he needs. I've asked him quietly in peaceful moments, or loudly when I'm frustrated, and I've even just given him space. You need to know that when I approach him in almost ANY way, he gets agitated. Now I am not trying to make my husband sound bad here, simply trying to understand him better. I am not kidding when I tell you that even when I ask him how his day was or what's on his mind in a kind way, he almost always immediately snaps back something like, "BABE IM FINE." Then that's it... And if I press further, he loses his temper.
How am I supposed to work with that? The only thing that seems to make him happy is when I am gone or doing chores or being productive while being extremely silent. His activity that he loves is mainly investing... He will wake up early and be on his phone or computer watching the market from sun up until we are laying in bed about to go to sleep. I've tried to get his attention or affection by offering silent massages, trying to talk about life, wearing lingerie, working hard around the house, cleaning his truck, reminding him how attractive he is to me, and even trying to bond by asking him about stock stuff. I just seem to run into a cold shoulder at all times.
I feel unwelcome in our house and I'm terrified... I know God doesn't approve of divorce, and neither do I so it's not an option. But the idea of living in this prison haunts me constantly.
Also, I've literally told him I need him to ask me how my day is, and take me on dates now and then, and use some romance... But nothing yet. I watched fireproof, so I'm trying that approach but it's exhausting, and disappointing to watch myself work so hard only to feel like a pain. Also, we already pray together every night before bed.
How can I do this all by myself? I understand I need to lean on God but what is the point of marriage if you are better off asking the wall to love you?

It sounds to me like your husband has a problem,something deep seated.Its no good not to say that you should have dealt with this before you were married.I know some will say that.But you have to start where you are.Something isn't right and its not because you aren't being a good enough wife.Do you mind my asking how long you dated and what were your reasons for marriage.Did he maybe feel pushed into marriage? Not that you pushed him but did he perceive it that way? He seems to have resentment over something.He's overly sensitive and thats not normal this early in your marriage.His issues are giving you issues.Maybe you just need to sit down and put the cards on the table.Does he want to stay married or not.Let him know its not going to continue the way it is so he better make a decision.Mean what you say and it may wake him up.Divorce may be wrong but living in a loveless marriage where you resent each other and begin to hate each other is wrong too.Make a move and tell him something has to change.He needs a wake up call,not complaining but saying "if Im not the one for you let me know now and we'll set each other free."
 

PopClick

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Also, we already pray together every night before bed.
I'm not married and probably have no business giving you any advice. But... what if you brought up the issues and feelings you're having during your prayers? Maybe start by thanking God for your husband, and asking Him to help you understand the things you're having trouble with, and asking Him to help you be a better person? It seems like hearing your heart when you're talking to God would maybe help your husband understand your pain a little better. This was just what was on my mind when I saw your post, though I came here intending to pray for the two of you and not to offer advice. All the best to you :)