Have to change for a relationship?

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hoss2576

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We have all been told "be patient, don't change, you will eventually find someone who will love you for who you are." But really? Does there not come a point in your life where you may have to re-evaluate your personality/character/habits, and say "okay, maybe this just isn't going to work for other people EVEN if I am happy and okay with it."

Even if there is no sin issue involved, do you think there are times we simply have to make changes in our lives if our desire is to be in a relationship, even if in every other aspect we feel content? What is that point if there is one?
 

cinder

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I think there's a difference between being yourself and never changing any of your habits and behaviors. Ultimately a relationship will change you, it's part of the process of life and growing and stuff. Not all changes are bad, but it is not good to feel like you are being held hostage to someone's whims or ideals.

So personally I can see kind of 3 categories: Changes that I'd be more than willing to make, Changes that might be good but I am incapable of making a major change in that area, Things I'm not willing to change

Changes I'd be willing to make:

Expanded (or narrowed) entertainment choices (games, music, movies, TV, etc.)- I would be more than willing to defer to someone else's preferences or convictions regarding entertainment choices. Though there could be a point at which this became to extreme or depriving.

Trying a new hobby or activity

Learning to be a bit more approachable

My schedule- If he's most talkative from 9-12 at night then I'll learn to stay up and talk then. Or if he thinks 5 AM is the best time to connect and touch base before the busy day begins then I'll start getting up early to talk to him.

Changes I believe myself to be incapable of making:

Enjoying noisy crowded environments- I'm very introverted. Such environments will always stress me out and wear me out. I'm willing to stretch a bit, but if I know I can't leave early (when I need to) without looking rude, I will make and excuse not to go at all.

Caring about someone's social status- nope I don't and I see no reason to

Paying attention to body language or other general observations- I don't consciously notice, and I would have a hard time telling anyone what even my roommate or my family looks like.

Letting go of my need for a plan, determined outcomes, and finishing things- change is good, last minute change will have me interrogating you about who failed to do their job that I was not given notice in a timely manner.

Sense of humor- it's warped and strange, but if you don't like it you should probably just leave now

Things I'm unwilling to change:

Faith- my understanding may grow and develop but I belong to Jesus first and foremost (and the Bible for what it plainly says is the standard for living)

Values and Integrity- how it is lived out may change, but I'm not going to start calling evil good or vis a versa.

Being financially responsible

Maintaining family relationships and friendships in addition to this new relationship (though the dynamics will inevitably change)


Well hopefully that gives a good idea of what changes may or may not be made for and in a hypothetical future relationship. I try not to be too dogmatic on the non-essentials, but I'm also getting wiser in my "old age" (or is that old maidness) that a lot of things could change, and some of them will probably be good changes.
 
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I was just thinking about change today. I don't think change is necessarily bad. I suppose the grey area would be those things that you CAN change, but in changing them you would either (a) not be able to sustain the change or (b) be so unhappy with the change that it would have been better to remain alone.
 
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well you can't forget that some of us who have been alone our entire long lives, are very set in our ways. I can tell you that me today vs me at 16 are two totally different people but also the same.

me at 16, small kids annoyed me but I could over look it.
me at 32. small kids absolutely annoy me and I don't want to be around them.

me at 16. more tolerable of idiotic behavior
me at 32. NO tolerance to idiotic behavior

me at 16. tolerable of people being around.
me at 32. no tolerance of people being around.

me at 16. more flexible in life daily routines.
me at 32. routines are set in stone, try and mess them up and I will not be nice.
 
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kaylagrl

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Well Im not single but I noticed this thread.My husband and I both changed,and are still changing. For instance I came from a high stung,chaotic,make no plans just wing it sort of family.They'd fight over who invented the lawn,I mean just everything is a big deal discussion to them.But on the plus side they can roll with anything.They can take the punches and keep on.

When I met my now husband I know I was like a squirrel.He was constantly telling me to slow down,take my time,just relax.All this was foreign to me.We'd make plans before going out.There was no drama between us.He use to joke and say "what are you going to do when we get married and theres no drama,you'll be bored!" Now that we have married and I go home to be with my family Im shell shocked because Im not use to the stress the way I once was.And he has had to learn to be a little more outgoing and less in his shell.He wasn't use to having strangers around but now he's met half of Canada when family and friends come down.lol

So I said that to say that you will change and probably not even know it.I didn't realize,nor did he till we began to talk about it.He'd say "I never did that till I met you" and I'd say the same.We changed each other a lot,for the best,and we weren't even trying.So dont sweat it.The right person will come along,flip your world upside down and you'll be a better person for it.
 

Lynx

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Things I will not change:

I will always be a music nut. I will always have a large music collection, I will always be humming some kind of song and I will always be on the lookout for new music.

I will always be a pentecostal minister, with all that entails. I will love God more than my (hypothetical) wife and I hope she loves God more than me.



Things I would be willing to change:

Beats me. I'd have to know what we want changed, why, how important it is to her, etc. I can't really answer that question at all unless/until I meet her and the subject comes up.
 
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mystikmind

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You don't need to change who you are to seek growth in the areas that are good about you, and seek to reduce the areas that are not so good. And there is nothing stopping you from learning new things that will help you attract women, such as dancing!

Also it is very important to be honest about who you are, because us guys, when we see a pretty lady we naturally tend to switch to 'get the girl' mode..... Men are just like a peacock in this way, a peacock will expand its tail, to impress a mate, then after the romancing is done, the big beautiful tail folds away and the poor woman wonders what the hell happened to the man they fell in love with?? and this happens allot, so women end up thinking all men a liars.
 
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dalconn

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We all have to make sacrifices for relationships to work and that is continual. But in regards to getting a relationship started I will say you have to go fishing if you want to catch a fish.
May God's best be yours!
 

JonahLynx

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God loved us while we were still sinners, but of course He expects a change. I think staying the same can be harmful in most cases.
 

p_rehbein

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see definition of "repent........"
 

p_rehbein

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We have all been told "be patient, don't change, you will eventually find someone who will love you for who you are." But really? Does there not come a point in your life where you may have to re-evaluate your personality/character/habits, and say "okay, maybe this just isn't going to work for other people EVEN if I am happy and okay with it."

Even if there is no sin issue involved, do you think there are times we simply have to make changes in our lives if our desire is to be in a relationship, even if in every other aspect we feel content? What is that point if there is one?
Yes, have now, and I would say that understanding the definition of repent would apply......... :) just saying
 
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We have all been told "be patient, don't change, you will eventually find someone who will love you for who you are." But really? Does there not come a point in your life where you may have to re-evaluate your personality/character/habits, and say "okay, maybe this just isn't going to work for other people EVEN if I am happy and okay with it."

Even if there is no sin issue involved, do you think there are times we simply have to make changes in our lives if our desire is to be in a relationship, even if in every other aspect we feel content? What is that point if there is one?
If what I needed to change was for her good and flourishing, beyond what God has called me with my relationship with Him
 

Roh_Chris

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Yes, there are times we have to make changes in our lives if we want to make a relationship work out. No two individuals are the same, so there will always be a few issues to sort out between me and her (whoever she may be). Plus, I welcome changes to certain aspects of my life and I look at doing something new as a challenge worth a try.

Areas where I am open to change
- A new hobby
- A new place to work/live in (to be read along with point 3 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- New people to meet
- New music to listen to
- Organizing my stuff in a different way (to be read along with point 2 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- Changing my spending habits (to be read along with point 4 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- A new language

Areas where I am not open to change
- My faith and the founding doctrines which I hold true
- Switching to a disorganized, chaotic lifestyle
- Moving to a place that is not healthy or comfortable for me to live (polluted, unhygienic, etc.)
- Sacrificing financial security and financial responsibility
- Any activity that is injurious to my health
- Etiquette and eloquence when it comes to interacting between the two of us and with others
- My outgoing personality (I have to socialize at least once a week to release my energy, so to say)
- My love for music and my passion to play music
 
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Good post!

The thing many people engaged or married missed is that they were changing without knowing it, till the last moment they knew (1) and those who were reluctant to adjust to new aims within those relations (2) were left behind or outside...

Even rocks are changing, by meteorization.

 
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Yes, there are times we have to make changes in our lives if we want to make a relationship work out. No two individuals are the same, so there will always be a few issues to sort out between me and her (whoever she may be). Plus, I welcome changes to certain aspects of my life and I look at doing something new as a challenge worth a try.

Areas where I am open to change
- A new hobby
- A new place to work/live in (to be read along with point 3 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- New people to meet
- New music to listen to
- Organizing my stuff in a different way (to be read along with point 2 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- Changing my spending habits (to be read along with point 4 of the list 'Areas where I am not open to change')
- A new language

Areas where I am not open to change
- My faith and the founding doctrines which I hold true
- Switching to a disorganized, chaotic lifestyle
- Moving to a place that is not healthy or comfortable for me to live (polluted, unhygienic, etc.)
- Sacrificing financial security and financial responsibility
- Any activity that is injurious to my health
- Etiquette and eloquence when it comes to interacting between the two of us and with others
- My outgoing personality (I have to socialize at least once a week to release my energy, so to say)
- My love for music and my passion to play music
One thought!

I hope you play music well. otherwise... you now the rest.
 

CatHerder

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"You may indulge in having intercourse with almost any… But you cannot live with an acquaintance -if there´s no trust, the commitment of love and the fellowship of ideas and the same faith." Antonio Toro
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p_rehbein

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ya think?



care to elaborate?
Why yes, thank you. After reading comments # 7, 8, and 9, I posted my initial comment. Made perfect sense. However, since the Author seemed to believe it didn't, I quoted the OP, and it still makes perfect sense.

There are two "levels" one experiences relationships on: Earthy, Spiritual. For one to find, participate in and receive the benefits from either of these, one must first be reconciled with God. Only when one has a right relationship with God, can one truly have a meaningful relationship with others.

The definition of repent is simply to change one's current condition/ways. The very first sermon Jesus preached was "Repent........"

We don't need Oprah, Dr. Phil, or the Book of the Month Club to teach us how to have a meaningful and fulfilling relationship with another person........all we need is to get right with God, and then do as He taught us to do concerning others, be they girlfriends, boyfriends, wives, husbands, or just friends.

Thanks for asking me to elaborate...........