Extraterrestrials & UFOs

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Theories are as common as kernels of corn. By themselves, they mean nothing. Since Jesus Christ was birthed on earth like every other human being, by definition, he's not an alien. How long are we going to play this game? Lol.


It was just semantics....no sense in reading into my comment any more than that.
As an aside....did you know that the one theory about Jesus that cannot be disproven is that He was an alien? There is the twin theory, the he didn't die theory, the they moved the body theory etc.....
Don't freak out on me.
 
That site prooves nothing, I thought to take a look at it, and in one of the comments, says. its on here it shows anything about it, were is the proof in the bible? You know some peopl will write a load of rubbish, all theory, all stupideness with not 1 bit of evidence, and silly people believe in these things, lol its crazy, people will believe in rubbish, and expect others to do the same. so they dont feel alone in believing rubbish lol

I wasn't trying to prove anything. Just a thought. What do you really KNOW? Nothing. You know nothing more than anyone else. Try opening your mind once in a while. You'd be surprised what's in there.

Oh, and btw, the disks were recorded by both civilizations as the way the battle ended. You're just arguing with history.
 
I wasn't trying to prove anything. Just a thought. What do you really KNOW? Nothing. You know nothing more than anyone else. Try opening your mind once in a while. You'd be surprised what's in there.

Oh, and btw, the disks were recorded by both civilizations as the way the battle ended. You're just arguing with history.
well I know not to believe in rubbish when I hear it, so I do know something. If God created Aliens, you do not think he would of told us? All this alien rubbish started from that story of roswell. then people has fake alsorts of pictures, and added to the bandwagon of rubbish. Drugs has a lot to do with SOME people's stories of abduction, and Hollywood, Oh my words, They just hyped everything up all the more, Im not saying to stop believing in that rubbish, each to there own thats what I say. But becare how you question in here, it may cause people even new christians to doubt. I mean, think about the question you asked, How do you know God isn't an alien? Just saying: and btw the way I have opened my eyes, and all I see dumb people making up stories and wrting stupid books and making untrue theories about alien and there existence.

God has told us everything, one thing is do know that he has not told us that he has made or created aliens. if he did wouldnt he of said?
 
Theories are as common as kernels of corn. By themselves, they mean nothing. Since Jesus Christ was birthed on earth like every other human being, by definition, he's not an alien. How long are we going to play this game? Lol.

i was sure you were sure familiar with the 12 theories regarding Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection....the alien one being the one that cannot be proven or unproven. I'm not saying he is...just telling what is....it can't be proven that he wasn't.
 
I have to agree. It's ridiculous. There are no existing scholarly primary sources and the secondary sources are all non-scholarly and appear fabricated echoing thru a lot of Internet UFO websites which try to position themselves as historical chronological listings of about a hundred to two hundred supposed historical UFO appearances tied to historical figures in the shoddiest attempt I've seen since the Hitler was in the center of the earth building a Nazi army to retake the world conspiracy.

Alexander did retain a historian but he was infamous for making up blatant fables about him (e.g. seas magically relocating so that Alexander could walk on dry land when he entered new territory, etc...) as part of a propaganda campaign to position Alexander as a divine god with supernatural powers.

That said, this particular myth appears to be a blatant fabrication not even associated with Alexander's most imaginative personal historian. Deconstructing the Alexander the Great UFO story - Openminds.tv

The only glittering silver shields on any of Alexander's battlefields were carried by a division of his own Macedonian army named the Argyraspides or in Greek the Ἀργυράσπιδες which, of course, means "Silver Shields" as that's what they carried with them into battle.



That site prooves nothing, I thought to take a look at it, and in one of the comments, says. its on here it shows anything about it, were is the proof in the bible? You know some peopl will write a load of rubbish, all theory, all stupideness with not 1 bit of evidence, and silly people believe in these things, lol its crazy, people will believe in rubbish, and expect others to do the same. so they dont feel alone in believing rubbish lol
 
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The Bible does not say if there is life on other planets. It simply says that God created the heavens and earth and put man on it. But this silence on the subject does not require that earth is the only place with life on it. But then again, this doesn't mean there is life out there, either.


Let me propose some reasons why I believe there is no life on other planets. Now, I should tell you that these reasons are simply exercises in biblical theology.


The Bible says there is one Trinitarian God. Jesus was God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8), second person of the Trinity, and died for our sins (Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24). If there were other beings on other planets that have sinned, then they would need a redeemer. God would have to die for them as well.

1. Only God can forgive sins. Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9), is forever a man (1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 7:17, 21) and died for the sins of people here on earth (Rom. 5:8). Therefore, I conclude that the only members left in the Trinity to die for the sins of another race would be the Father and the Holy Spirit.

But this doesn't seem credible since the focus of the Trinitarian effort in this world has been for the Father to elect a people (Luke 18:7; Rom. 8:33), the Son to redeem them (John 6:39; 17:9, 24; Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24), and the Holy Spirit to fill, guide, and indwell them (Acts 4:29-31; John 16:13; Rom. 8:9-14). The focus of their effort has been this world and the redemption of mankind--not anywhere else.


2, if there were life on other planets, would it be possible that they never sinned and don't need a redeemer? I think this question can be answered by the Bible where it says that creation is groaning, waiting for its redemption at the return of Christ (Rom. 8:22). That would mean that all of creation was affected by the fall. When Adam sinned, the ground was cursed and death entered the world. If that is so, then any other beings out there that were made in God's image, would have fallen too since they would be part of creation.

I don't see how they could escape the effect of the fall. They would be sinners, too, and need a redeemer. Then they would fall under the first objection above.

Third, there are only two options available to explain our existence: creation and evolution. I have studied the theory of evolution and do not believe it is a viable option to explain how we got here. I do not accept evolution for two reasons: (1) the Bible says God created life on earth; that means it did not evolve, and (2) the problems of spontaneous life formation are so immense that it is impossible. Also, missing links abound, the fossil record is spotty at best, DNA mutation theory is insufficient to account for life-form development, and more . . . but this paper is not a refutation of evolution.
[h=2]What about the appearances of UFOs?[/h]I do not deny that there are physical manifestations of UFOs, and that many people have claimed to have seen them and even been abducted by them. But the issue is not whether these things occur, but what they are.
Research of UFO abductees has led to some interesting discoveries. According to those abducted, the aliens are teaching theology. The curious thing is that the theology is New Age theology; namely, that we are all divine, all evolving to higher levels of consciousness, that reality is what you perceive it to be, etc. These are anti-Christian teachings. In some cases, comments about Jesus himself have been made that directly contradict biblical revelation. I've studied the New Age for quite some time, and a great many people in the New Age not only accept Aliens and UFOs but teach that they are more highly evolved than we are; and that we need to learn from them.


In addition, an inordinately high percentage of the abductees have had previous experience with the occult. I remember when I was younger and into séances, necromancy, psychokinesis, and astral projection. One night I looked into the sky and saw a very bright light that moved at an extremely high rate of speed and made sudden and severe changes in direction during its flight. It moved extremely fast and accelerated out of sight as it moved high into the night sky and disappeared. I saw this with my own eyes. But it doesn't stop there. During my occult days, I also saw many other unusual manifestations, heard voices, and saw things move. I could go on; but suffice it to say that I confirm the findings of those who experience UFO phenomena, and they are very often involved in the occult. This is alarming and a major warning.
My conclusion is that the UFO phenomena is occultic in origin and demonically based. I do not believe there is life on other planets, and I suspect that what has been manifested is nothing more than a great deception that is slowly enveloping mankind.
 
The Bible does not say if there is life on other planets. It simply says that God created the heavens and earth and put man on it. But this silence on the subject does not require that earth is the only place with life on it. But then again, this doesn't mean there is life out there, either.


Let me propose some reasons why I believe there is no life on other planets. Now, I should tell you that these reasons are simply exercises in biblical theology.


The Bible says there is one Trinitarian God. Jesus was God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8), second person of the Trinity, and died for our sins (Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24). If there were other beings on other planets that have sinned, then they would need a redeemer. God would have to die for them as well.

1. Only God can forgive sins. Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9), is forever a man (1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 7:17, 21) and died for the sins of people here on earth (Rom. 5:8). Therefore, I conclude that the only members left in the Trinity to die for the sins of another race would be the Father and the Holy Spirit.

But this doesn't seem credible since the focus of the Trinitarian effort in this world has been for the Father to elect a people (Luke 18:7; Rom. 8:33), the Son to redeem them (John 6:39; 17:9, 24; Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24), and the Holy Spirit to fill, guide, and indwell them (Acts 4:29-31; John 16:13; Rom. 8:9-14). The focus of their effort has been this world and the redemption of mankind--not anywhere else.


2, if there were life on other planets, would it be possible that they never sinned and don't need a redeemer? I think this question can be answered by the Bible where it says that creation is groaning, waiting for its redemption at the return of Christ (Rom. 8:22). That would mean that all of creation was affected by the fall. When Adam sinned, the ground was cursed and death entered the world. If that is so, then any other beings out there that were made in God's image, would have fallen too since they would be part of creation.

I don't see how they could escape the effect of the fall. They would be sinners, too, and need a redeemer. Then they would fall under the first objection above.

Third, there are only two options available to explain our existence: creation and evolution. I have studied the theory of evolution and do not believe it is a viable option to explain how we got here. I do not accept evolution for two reasons: (1) the Bible says God created life on earth; that means it did not evolve, and (2) the problems of spontaneous life formation are so immense that it is impossible. Also, missing links abound, the fossil record is spotty at best, DNA mutation theory is insufficient to account for life-form development, and more . . . but this paper is not a refutation of evolution.
What about the appearances of UFOs?

I do not deny that there are physical manifestations of UFOs, and that many people have claimed to have seen them and even been abducted by them. But the issue is not whether these things occur, but what they are.
Research of UFO abductees has led to some interesting discoveries. According to those abducted, the aliens are teaching theology. The curious thing is that the theology is New Age theology; namely, that we are all divine, all evolving to higher levels of consciousness, that reality is what you perceive it to be, etc. These are anti-Christian teachings. In some cases, comments about Jesus himself have been made that directly contradict biblical revelation. I've studied the New Age for quite some time, and a great many people in the New Age not only accept Aliens and UFOs but teach that they are more highly evolved than we are; and that we need to learn from them.


In addition, an inordinately high percentage of the abductees have had previous experience with the occult. I remember when I was younger and into séances, necromancy, psychokinesis, and astral projection. One night I looked into the sky and saw a very bright light that moved at an extremely high rate of speed and made sudden and severe changes in direction during its flight. It moved extremely fast and accelerated out of sight as it moved high into the night sky and disappeared. I saw this with my own eyes. But it doesn't stop there. During my occult days, I also saw many other unusual manifestations, heard voices, and saw things move. I could go on; but suffice it to say that I confirm the findings of those who experience UFO phenomena, and they are very often involved in the occult. This is alarming and a major warning.
My conclusion is that the UFO phenomena is occultic in origin and demonically based. I do not believe there is life on other planets, and I suspect that what has been manifested is nothing more than a great deception that is slowly enveloping mankind.

Ive always said, even if there was life on another planet, it wouldnt even matter. It has no bearing on Christianity, it would just be another of many things that God chose not to tell us. So the whole thing wouldnt matter.

That being said, if aliens did come down to visit us, the entire world would cheer and cry out "where is your God, now?"


You have pointed out all of my fears with your post. Even the "scientific" community jumps on the ufo bandwagon, and claim that the existence of aliens is absolute fact while claiming that God is a silly and childish notion when they have just as many scientific facts to support either idea.

I do believe that there are beings in the shadows purposely guiding certain people into a religious state of fascination with aliens, their entire goal is to lead you away from Christ. And knowing that demons can in fact give you visions, put thoughts into your head and even whisper into your ear, I can definitely say they will give signs to non beliviers to keep them on their path of doom. And that includes pretending to be aliens. I actually know someone irl who claims aliens are contacting him, I wish hed believe he is being mislead by a demon, but of course cuz science he would believe that that is such a foolish idea and Id be an idiot for bringing that up. Anyone who has not strengthened themselves with the truth will believe anything the enemy puts into their head, because they have /no/ foundation to stand on, and are not guarded against a deceptive being whos whole goal is to bring them down with them.

Satan knows how to lure the world away from Christ, and I can definitely say with confidence that aliens have become a part of that plan. And I have also seen the idea with those who believe in ufos that we can be gods through science. It all comes back around to the fruit in the Garden of Eden. That secret knowledge within our grasp. When your eyes have been open, you can truly see the devils work in everything on our world.
 
Ive always said, even if there was life on another planet, it wouldnt even matter. It has no bearing on Christianity, it would just be another of many things that God chose not to tell us. So the whole thing wouldnt matter.

But God has told us everything, He don't keep secrets. He don't choose not to tell us as he don't keep anything from us. Hence why its quoted in Matthew 7: 7, Ask and you will be given, seek and you will find and knock and the door will be opened. Why would God keep anything from us? So how it would be many things that God chose not to tell us? But God is a revealing God, He has nothing kept from us.
 
I have a confession to make.. I..am..really..an..alien. :) :p


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I can see that and you carry numb chucks too......so how tall are you anyway little blue ninja?
 
aliens/ufo's are prolly demons. There was a guy who was in charge of an investigation into the phenominon put there by some aspect of the government. He went in as an atheist, but as he continued his research he felt the only logical conclusion was these beings were fallen angels or halfbreeds (Nephalim) from the bible which caused him to convert to Christianity from Atheism. I forget his name I might look for it if anyone is interested.
 
Sounds like you are not well grounded, spiritually speaking. The Holy Spirit within you will not allow such a thing! This world is explaining GOD away in the constant bombardment of 'aliens and UFO's" to explain all the mysteries of our planet earth. Your body is to be the house or home of the HOly Spirit, who comes from a jealous GOD that will not share that habitat with aliens. What you need to do is to make those aliens and/or demons flee in the name of JESUS so that your COMFORTER, High Commander can take over so that you can get on with this mission called LIFE.
 
If you read between the lines, the rhetoric and propaganda you get from these so called "aliens" and the people who claim to be in contact or who know the "truth" about them is just the same... stuff that Satan has been espousing since he fell. In the Bible it says there will be a great lie, and that all will be deceived? Well what better way to do so in this day in age than to play the "alien card"? These beings supposedly claim that they supposedly made us, and you can see a lot of paganistic/anti-christ rhetoric in there talk. Oh it all sounds good, upgrading from an inferior humanoid, solving the energy crisis, etc but in the end let me say this much.

I'm not simply going "omg the bible doesnt talk about aliens so they are demons!" because well the bible DOES talk about them just not in those terms, and this is honestly imo the perfect deception tactic for Satan to play in his end-game plan to trick people into trusting him over God.
 
Gordon Matthew Thomas Sumner said he was a legal alien in new york, walking down fith avenue walking cane there by his side, apparently he don't drink coffee he takes tea dear and he likes toast done on one side.







lol.
 
I'm not sure if some of these people are mocking this stuff, but I gotta say I've never been "abducted" or anything but I have seen things in the sky that defy scientific explanation once or twice along with one or two other people. There is also plenty of evidence from around the world that these things exist and it seems to correlate to the bible and makes sense in the context of how the world will be deceived in revelation, while you can see certain political entities seeming to "warm up" to the idea of "ET" if you think its non-sense you are entitled to your opinion, but its not. God holds all the cards in the end though and these entities are nothing but dust to him, I'm not worried, I just like to be informed.
 
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