The world's view of Israel
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so what guys here said this? I said the jews are not Isreal,
they are Jews, with ben. and levits mingled in.
was never said a jew is not a jew, but the jews[ in] jerusalem are not Israel
And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying,
God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh:
and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
“And I will wait upon the Lord,
that hideth his face from the house of Jacob?….” [sinning Israel] not the jews
But of Ephraim and Manasseh, sons of Joseph, the dying Israel said,
“[L]et my name be named on them” (Genesis 48:16).
And truly they now bear the name of Israel.
they are Jews, with ben. and levits mingled in.
was never said a jew is not a jew, but the jews[ in] jerusalem are not Israel
And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying,
God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh:
and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
“And I will wait upon the Lord,
that hideth his face from the house of Jacob?….” [sinning Israel] not the jews
But of Ephraim and Manasseh, sons of Joseph, the dying Israel said,
“[L]et my name be named on them” (Genesis 48:16).
And truly they now bear the name of Israel.
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12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people,
I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off:
Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Ezekiel 37:15-22
this is future, when graves where opened, not now
I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off:
Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Ezekiel 37:15-22
this is future, when graves where opened, not now
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This thread is food for thought comparing Israel with the rest of the world's continuing moral decline and come to a conclusion why Israel is despised even by the administration of the US. I think part of the reason our administration believes they can do this is because the Christian sect of this country demands a continuing separation via doctrines that endorses separation from what Israel believes as we know as the law and the prophets. Seems like the wall of separation that Christ destroyed continues to be rebuilt by false religion. Paul preached "And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;" (1 Corinthians 9:20) With this continuing separation it renders us incapable to follow in Paul's shoes.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
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Least corrupt in what way?
I would never oppose Israel's status as a country or even compromise on a two-state solution or on the issue of a Jewish state. But Israel is largely a westernized, secular country that has all of the political and social ills of any other western, secular country. There are political scandals, people of many different faiths, seemingly incompetent bureaucracies, clashes between conservative and liberal groups and compromise with the secular world.
I would never oppose Israel's status as a country or even compromise on a two-state solution or on the issue of a Jewish state. But Israel is largely a westernized, secular country that has all of the political and social ills of any other western, secular country. There are political scandals, people of many different faiths, seemingly incompetent bureaucracies, clashes between conservative and liberal groups and compromise with the secular world.
That is influence from others, not the foundational beliefs of Israel. I'm not saying they are all believers, I'm endorsing thought that should make us question why they seem to be protected by God these days. Even though they are not Messianic in totality, in comparison to other countries why do they continue to be seen as not regressing in corruption such as the U.S? Take in relation as subtle difference between the U.S. and Israel as we know it today. They see themselves in a communal way, and the U.S. sees ourselves in an individual way, in difference to our founding fathers. What is revealed then, is what is at the core of strengths and weakness. We see Israel as strong because of their environment, able to stand against adversity, and we see our country becoming weak in comparison by immoral influence, even denominational compromise.
