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I have discussed this subject exhaustively on another website. Is Jesus God the Father?
To believe he is would take huge amounts of scripture to by overlooked. This I believe is undeniable. That would mean Jesus is God the Father now in Heaven. I could write out many verses to contradict Jesus is God the Father, but to me the most striking are these.
Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be defeated is death. For He has put everything under his feet.
Now when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God Himself who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to Him who put everything under Him, so that God may be all in all. 1Cor15:24-28
To believe he is would take huge amounts of scripture to by overlooked. This I believe is undeniable. That would mean Jesus is God the Father now in Heaven. I could write out many verses to contradict Jesus is God the Father, but to me the most striking are these.
Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be defeated is death. For He has put everything under his feet.
Now when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God Himself who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to Him who put everything under Him, so that God may be all in all. 1Cor15:24-28
Peace be to you
Do you all even pray?
Who is God first born;exod,4,22
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
God makes his prophets God to others they preach to.That doesnt mean they are God?exodus;
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Dont be pharaoh in this verse,Ask Jesus who he is!
Alot will try to tell you who Jesus is but only God can show you who Jesus is,Only Jesus can show you who God is.If you do not empty what ever man has tryed to teach you and allow God to show you, you will never find out the answer.
Love a friend in God
Do you all even pray?
Who is God first born;exod,4,22
And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
God makes his prophets God to others they preach to.That doesnt mean they are God?exodus;
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Dont be pharaoh in this verse,Ask Jesus who he is!
Alot will try to tell you who Jesus is but only God can show you who Jesus is,Only Jesus can show you who God is.If you do not empty what ever man has tryed to teach you and allow God to show you, you will never find out the answer.
Love a friend in God
you can accept a subordinate role but still be equal in essence - look at husband and wife
this is why feminists have trouble with the trinity - because they see subordinate as inferior
this is why feminists have trouble with the trinity - because they see subordinate as inferior
Trinity is not found in the kjv bible
Im curious who you are married too, from the sound of it;You are the dominante?
A feminist fights for equal rights for woman,Yet you say because they fight to be equal ,they are inferior or should I say just Troubled
Jesus I swear these women(greatkraw) think there men,And thank you for coming as a servant(subordinate)
Love a friend in God
Oh some other terms not found in bible http://www.zondervanbiblesearch.com/ResultsFast.aspx?Highlighted=omni+presence&SearchBooks=KJV&Search=omni+presence
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John;
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
acks;
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Who is the Son of man?
isiah;
Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
luke;
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Let me guess you think God is pleasing himself? lol
Love a friend in God
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
acks;
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Who is the Son of man?
isiah;
Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.
luke;
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Let me guess you think God is pleasing himself? lol
Love a friend in God
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Daniel 7
13 “ I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
13 “ I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.
John 8:58 JESUS says before Abraham was I AM. John 14:8-9 Philip asks JESUS how can we see the FATHER and JESUS said have I been away so long that you do not recognize ME? Colossians 1:15-17 JESUS is the image of the invisible GOD and all things are created by JESUS and for JESUS. 1 John 5:7-9 we learn on earth JESUS = WATER-BLOOD-SPIRIT and in heaven JESUS = FATHER-WORD-HOLY GHOST. Isaiah 7:14 EMMANUEL = GOD with us the MESSIAH is foretold about HIS coming and birth and then in Isaiah 9:6 we see who this EMMANUEL really is and was and has always been = WONDERFUL-COUNSELOR-THE (singular)MIGHTY GOD-THE(singular)EVERLASTING FATHER-THE(singular)PRINCE OF PEACE. These scriptures alone show us who JESUS is from beginning to now. This does not even include GODS physical appearances in person to Abraham-Jacob-Moses-Joshua-Shadrach, Meshak, abednego in furnace of fire. JESUS is the ALPHA and OMEGA which is beginning and end. SO YES, JESUS was the GOD of Abraham.
ALSO, JESUS is the ALMIGHTY GOD creator of all things for in JESUS is the FATHER SPIRIT which is the HOLY SPIRIT that also lives in us and we must REMEMBER when man was created JESUS already knew we would sin and need a remedy for our sins. A rememdy by which only HE JESUS being GOD in flesh could only solve and defeat satan bu HIS HOLY BLOOD-DEATH-RESSURRECTION. Aside from a way of resolving our sins JESUS whole purpose was to come to earth and BE AN EXAMPLE to us mankind. From HIS 3 1/2 years of preaching we mankind now knows how to live for GOD and pray to GOD and have faith in GOD and succeed in GOD both JEW and GENTILE. Without this example we still would be doomed for hell. No matter how GODly a man may seem his examples are nothing compared to how GODS EXAMPLES of HIMSELF are. All these great men we read about we still missed many points. SO GOD made sure we CLEARLY understood how to be GOD like by LITERALLY coming down and showing us. Without this we still would be LOST.
I sujest you read threw the psalmns
Psalmn;My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD's: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
How little you know Jesus to say he didnt exist,You say Jesus is God and the holy spirit.
Jesus does exist and he stands beside God for he always does those things pleasing to God.He is God's exalted and my friend.
Love a friend in God
Psalmn;My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD's: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
How little you know Jesus to say he didnt exist,You say Jesus is God and the holy spirit.
Jesus does exist and he stands beside God for he always does those things pleasing to God.He is God's exalted and my friend.
Love a friend in God
GOD is SPIRIT that is a HOLY SPIRIT which wrapped HIMSELF in flesh to save us and show us how our flesh should worship the SPIRIT of GOD. JESUS is the complete GODHEAD. I am an pastor and have read more scripture then most and your Psalms 22 is just a prelude of events where the flesh cries out to the SPIRIT. Even in death JESUS taught us flesh is nothing for the SPIRIT of GOD is life and without that we are dead. MY suggestion to you is to seek GOD for you have missed the greatest revelation ever known to GOD you have a misconception of 1/2 truths. There is only 1 throne in heaven not 3. There is only 1 GOD not 3. Trinity is lie from satan. We know that satan looked down and saw GOD and iniquity grew in his heart. Who made satan? Colossians 1:15-17 JESUS created ALL things BY HIM and FOR HIM. So when satan looked down upon GOD it was JESUS his CREATOR.
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,