Daughter Raised by Two Moms Speaks Out
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I don't really know what that statement is actually saying.
However, it is true that homo-sexual sex is contrary to natural law.
This is why the rectal passage and anus are exclusively made to evacuate the bowels and therefore do not lubricate when sexually aroused.
It is why males do not have a womb.
Colon cancer is just one side effect of homosexual male penetration. The tearing that occurs with repeated forced intercourse being a key factor in making those vulnerable tissues susceptible to infection when the natural processes of bowel evacuation then occur.
It's a horrible death and certainly colon cancer isn't only suffered by homosexual males. However, colon rectal cancer is one of many side effects of homosexual male sex.
However, it is true that homo-sexual sex is contrary to natural law.
This is why the rectal passage and anus are exclusively made to evacuate the bowels and therefore do not lubricate when sexually aroused.
It is why males do not have a womb.
Colon cancer is just one side effect of homosexual male penetration. The tearing that occurs with repeated forced intercourse being a key factor in making those vulnerable tissues susceptible to infection when the natural processes of bowel evacuation then occur.
It's a horrible death and certainly colon cancer isn't only suffered by homosexual males. However, colon rectal cancer is one of many side effects of homosexual male sex.
I grew up with a cousin who I was very close to, we were like best friends. She was raised by a lesbian parent as well. My aunt (who was lesbian of course) actually did have a hatred of men, which she used to jutify being lesbian, and yeah, she totally forced this on her daughter often, as well. And one time she used me as an example. My aunt, my cousin and I were peeling potatoes at the kitchen table. My cousin found an eye, cut it in half and put them against the potato and showed it to us. We all laughed, and I said "they look like boobs". My aunt then stopped laughing and scolded me in front of my cousin, telling me they were clearly eyes, and then talked about how "this was the problem with men". I was just a little kid. The two eyes did stick out alot, and she did hold them down low, and not at the top of the potato. And also, my cousin /did/ make jokes about boobs at times, in fact in our family album we have a picture where she has two balloons in her tanktop. So it was even a bit normal for me to jump to the conclusion that she was making another of her jokes. I was just a little kid at the time, and I can honestly say that I did not have any understanding of the sexual component of breasts, that I just saw them as part of the female body, like facial hair on a man. But my aunt took this chance to spread the "all men are sexually perverted pigs that only want to do bad things to women" on her daughter. And this also had a bad affect on me, I felt ashamed at that time, like I did something wrong, and even was worried that I was somehow a pervert, not having the understanding I do now, that I was just being a child.
There is a danger to not having both a mother and father. It does affect how your child will see the two genders.
I also know many families that broke up because on parent wanted to be gay. I did go through losing my parents because they separated. I know that it was very hard. And I do consider it very selfish for any parent to do this to their child for their own personal fulfillment.
The woman who spoke up about her situation with the knowledge she will be called a hateful bigot is very brave, and I would like to tell her myself that I appreciate her bravery :3
There is a danger to not having both a mother and father. It does affect how your child will see the two genders.
I also know many families that broke up because on parent wanted to be gay. I did go through losing my parents because they separated. I know that it was very hard. And I do consider it very selfish for any parent to do this to their child for their own personal fulfillment.
The woman who spoke up about her situation with the knowledge she will be called a hateful bigot is very brave, and I would like to tell her myself that I appreciate her bravery :3
Do you have any scientific evidence to back up that claim? Why exactly is procreation better then pleasure? If the population was low on people then yes I'd agree that procreation is needed but that certainly isn't the case in 2015. Outside of it being a safety issue, I don't see how one is better then the other
Homosexuality is natural. The fact that people are participating in homosexuality proves that it is natural in it of it self.
If you believe that humans are different than nature then look no further then animals as they also participate in homosexuality. Just because something is dangerous does not make something unnatural. Also they're is plenty of safer ways to have gay male sex, if you're not into the whole anus thing.
If you believe that humans are different than nature then look no further then animals as they also participate in homosexuality. Just because something is dangerous does not make something unnatural. Also they're is plenty of safer ways to have gay male sex, if you're not into the whole anus thing.
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According to the Bible -- ignoring your crude comment on a method of male sexual contact -- none of your statements in this post are true. If you are a Christian as your profile states, then how do you deny that?
In so saying, God uses the same language by which He calls adultery, incest, bestiality "abominations" and "perversions," stating that the land which He has given them has become defiled, due to the men who came before Israel committing "these abominations" (Leviticus 18:27). That means, in God's economy, homosexual acts are not more so sin than the other sins, but it is of no less importance, either.
God condemns all sin, including homosexuality, in both these passages, both Old Testament, and New. Therefore, your statement appears to be groundless, mere opinion, and in conflict with the faith by which you identify yourself. Can you explain?
Leviticus 18, NASB
22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
In so saying, God uses the same language by which He calls adultery, incest, bestiality "abominations" and "perversions," stating that the land which He has given them has become defiled, due to the men who came before Israel committing "these abominations" (Leviticus 18:27). That means, in God's economy, homosexual acts are not more so sin than the other sins, but it is of no less importance, either.
Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural *,
27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural *,
27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
God condemns all sin, including homosexuality, in both these passages, both Old Testament, and New. Therefore, your statement appears to be groundless, mere opinion, and in conflict with the faith by which you identify yourself. Can you explain?
I read this story and knew there would be a thread about it on here.
The woman doesn't support gay marriage because her mother walked out on her father and her father wasn't there for her. This isn't a problem with having a gay parent, it's a problem with having parents who don't love each other and separate. This woman is attacking homosexuality for something that is NOT exclusive to homosexual parents. Consider the following points:
1. Gay marriage won't prevent gays from divorcing their spouses of the opposite gender.
It doesn't matter if gay marriage is legal or not, it won't keep people from divorcing each other if they realize they're gay. This woman would have grown up without father whether or not her mother found another woman or not.
2. This woman is talking about her mother leaving her father as if this is something only homosexuals would do.
News flash, heterosexual parents are divorcing each other to be with the opposite sex too. Having a lesbian mother leave your father for another woman is the same as having a straight mother leave your father for another man. To suggest gay marriage should be illegal for this reason is to argue that it's okay for straight people to get married despite having the exact same problem.
3. This woman is suffering from having no father in the same way most children suffer when their parents separate.
Pretty self explanatory.
If you want to argue that homosexuality is a sin, therefore it's wrong, fine. But don't hold double standards for heterosexual relationships! What this woman described is EXACTLY how children with straight parents feel when their parents get divorced!
Almost ALL divorces have a negative impact on children. If you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal because a gay mother divorced her husband, then by that logic we need to also outlaw heterosexual marriage because straight people also leave their spouses!
And here's the BIGGEST kicker. What if this woman's mother married another man? She would STILL feel abandoned by her own father and she would carry the exact same burden! How many of you know families in which children feel abandoned despite having a mother and step dad, or a dad and step mother? When it comes to children, it's almost impossible to replace your real parents. This is why, as unfortunate as the woman's situation is, she's completely out of touch with reality.
Again, if you want to argue that homosexuality is a sin. Fine. I won't argue against that. And if you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal because it's a sin, fine - that's an entirely different debate. But if you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal based on what this woman said, then you need to take a step back and look at this in an unbiased manner. Stop saying, "gay marriage should be illegal because a kid needs both parents" when both children with straight and gay parents suffer the same problems.
Lastly, not all children with gay parents feel the same way as this woman. Just sayin'.
You can't knock homosexuality for being imperfect when heterosexuals are also imperfect. Again, this isn't about whether or not homosexuality is a sin or not, it's about the poor arguments being used.
The woman doesn't support gay marriage because her mother walked out on her father and her father wasn't there for her. This isn't a problem with having a gay parent, it's a problem with having parents who don't love each other and separate. This woman is attacking homosexuality for something that is NOT exclusive to homosexual parents. Consider the following points:
1. Gay marriage won't prevent gays from divorcing their spouses of the opposite gender.
It doesn't matter if gay marriage is legal or not, it won't keep people from divorcing each other if they realize they're gay. This woman would have grown up without father whether or not her mother found another woman or not.
2. This woman is talking about her mother leaving her father as if this is something only homosexuals would do.
News flash, heterosexual parents are divorcing each other to be with the opposite sex too. Having a lesbian mother leave your father for another woman is the same as having a straight mother leave your father for another man. To suggest gay marriage should be illegal for this reason is to argue that it's okay for straight people to get married despite having the exact same problem.
3. This woman is suffering from having no father in the same way most children suffer when their parents separate.
Pretty self explanatory.
If you want to argue that homosexuality is a sin, therefore it's wrong, fine. But don't hold double standards for heterosexual relationships! What this woman described is EXACTLY how children with straight parents feel when their parents get divorced!
Almost ALL divorces have a negative impact on children. If you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal because a gay mother divorced her husband, then by that logic we need to also outlaw heterosexual marriage because straight people also leave their spouses!
And here's the BIGGEST kicker. What if this woman's mother married another man? She would STILL feel abandoned by her own father and she would carry the exact same burden! How many of you know families in which children feel abandoned despite having a mother and step dad, or a dad and step mother? When it comes to children, it's almost impossible to replace your real parents. This is why, as unfortunate as the woman's situation is, she's completely out of touch with reality.
Again, if you want to argue that homosexuality is a sin. Fine. I won't argue against that. And if you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal because it's a sin, fine - that's an entirely different debate. But if you want to argue that gay marriage should be illegal based on what this woman said, then you need to take a step back and look at this in an unbiased manner. Stop saying, "gay marriage should be illegal because a kid needs both parents" when both children with straight and gay parents suffer the same problems.
Lastly, not all children with gay parents feel the same way as this woman. Just sayin'.
You can't knock homosexuality for being imperfect when heterosexuals are also imperfect. Again, this isn't about whether or not homosexuality is a sin or not, it's about the poor arguments being used.
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It may not be exclusive to same-sex marriage and parenting, but in the actual essay -- linked in the OP's linked article -- she clearly lays out the crux of the issue created by not having her father in her life:
Irrelevant to Heather's essay, and the concern she has for children forced to live with same-sex partners.
Incorrect. If you read her original essay, in full, she acknowledges that. But as you can see from the above excerpt, it creates special problems that only same-sex partnerships can cause the partners' children.
Again, refer to the above quoted excerpt.
Wrong. Obviously she was raised to believe she didn't need a dad, or a man. She has now categorically rejected that concept, and is calling on the LGBT community to acknowledge the special problems their selfish sin foists on their children.
You need to step back and understand what she is actually saying instead of leaping to erroneous conclusions based on an incomplete reading of what she had to say.
Irrelevant to Heather's essay, and the concern she has for children forced to live with same-sex partners.
Incorrect. If you read her original essay, in full, she acknowledges that. But as you can see from the above excerpt, it creates special problems that only same-sex partnerships can cause the partners' children.
Again, refer to the above quoted excerpt.
Wrong. Obviously she was raised to believe she didn't need a dad, or a man. She has now categorically rejected that concept, and is calling on the LGBT community to acknowledge the special problems their selfish sin foists on their children.
You need to step back and understand what she is actually saying instead of leaping to erroneous conclusions based on an incomplete reading of what she had to say.
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By that standard one could argue, and some do in fact lobby for acceptance of their 'truth', pedophilia is natural.
Because pedophiles rape children and therefore are participating in sex with children and so that sexual attraction must be natural.
There are still a number of States wherein zoophilia, or bestiality, are legal. And because there are people who will sex an animal that must then mean that that sexual attraction stands as evidence it is natural to have sex with animals.
Natural law proves homosexual behavior is aberrant. Just as the aforementioned behaviors are.
Comparing human sexual behavior to that of beasts isn't the way to be a proponent of homosexuality as a natural act.
Animals also eat their young and their own dung. Behavior comparisons doesn't make human homosexuality any less an aberrant behavior.
Because pedophiles rape children and therefore are participating in sex with children and so that sexual attraction must be natural.
There are still a number of States wherein zoophilia, or bestiality, are legal. And because there are people who will sex an animal that must then mean that that sexual attraction stands as evidence it is natural to have sex with animals.
Natural law proves homosexual behavior is aberrant. Just as the aforementioned behaviors are.
Comparing human sexual behavior to that of beasts isn't the way to be a proponent of homosexuality as a natural act.
Animals also eat their young and their own dung. Behavior comparisons doesn't make human homosexuality any less an aberrant behavior.
It is inevitable someone will argue that because animals appear gay it is therefore natural for humans to be so.
This article is not that long but is well worth the time to stock up on a rebuttal for the reductio ad absurdum argument.
March 08, 2012
Does Homosexual Behavior in Animals Mean it's Natural for Humans?
This article is not that long but is well worth the time to stock up on a rebuttal for the reductio ad absurdum argument.
March 08, 2012
Does Homosexual Behavior in Animals Mean it's Natural for Humans?
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Of course, and it begins with biology 101. Obviously the female reproductive system is designed for sex and sexual procreation and the digestive system is not designed for it. Obviously. But here you are acting like a complete ignoramus making the false assertion that the opposite is true. You're wrong. It is not.
And, of course, misusing the end of the digestive system for sex (something it was never designed to accommodate) carries the greatest sexual risk for disease transmission. There's not much pleasure in getting AIDs.
Read the CDC Fact Sheet on the topic Einstein. Note the following:
"Sexual risk behaviors account for most HIV infections in gay and bisexual men. Most gay and bisexual men acquire HIV through anal sex, which is the riskiest type of sex for getting or transmitting HIV."
But, because homosexual behavior is immoral there are other consequences beyond a heightened risk for contracting serious sexually transmitted disease and other potentially deadly maladies such as increased risks for cancer.
There are very real spiritual consequences to engaging in serious sinful behaviors such as homosexuality that result in demonic oppression and personality changes. Over time, people who immerse themselves in such serious sexual immorality can even become hardened to the point of reprobation.
Your ignorance is obvious. You should remedy it by educating yourself instead of coming on Christian forums and making patently false assertions about a topic you know almost nothing about.
And, of course, misusing the end of the digestive system for sex (something it was never designed to accommodate) carries the greatest sexual risk for disease transmission. There's not much pleasure in getting AIDs.
Read the CDC Fact Sheet on the topic Einstein. Note the following:
"Sexual risk behaviors account for most HIV infections in gay and bisexual men. Most gay and bisexual men acquire HIV through anal sex, which is the riskiest type of sex for getting or transmitting HIV."
But, because homosexual behavior is immoral there are other consequences beyond a heightened risk for contracting serious sexually transmitted disease and other potentially deadly maladies such as increased risks for cancer.
There are very real spiritual consequences to engaging in serious sinful behaviors such as homosexuality that result in demonic oppression and personality changes. Over time, people who immerse themselves in such serious sexual immorality can even become hardened to the point of reprobation.
Your ignorance is obvious. You should remedy it by educating yourself instead of coming on Christian forums and making patently false assertions about a topic you know almost nothing about.
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Incorrect. Homosexuality is not "natural" for humans. Heterosexuality is natural for humans. This is true whether you approach the topic from a purely biological point of view or also a theological one.
People torture each other, people murder each other, people cannibalize each other, people sell dope to each other, people enslaved each other, people engage in all sorts of wickedness throughout human history. You assert that any wicked sinful behavior is "natural" if some people choose to engage in it but the truth is that they are patently unnatural sinful acts that violate God's normative morality (e.g. natural law) and the human conscience.
And yes humans are set apart from the animal kingdom having been endowed with the Imago Dei.
As for your last assertion, see my last post. It matters not because homosexuality is immoral and carries physical, spiritual, and psychological consequences.
People torture each other, people murder each other, people cannibalize each other, people sell dope to each other, people enslaved each other, people engage in all sorts of wickedness throughout human history. You assert that any wicked sinful behavior is "natural" if some people choose to engage in it but the truth is that they are patently unnatural sinful acts that violate God's normative morality (e.g. natural law) and the human conscience.
And yes humans are set apart from the animal kingdom having been endowed with the Imago Dei.
As for your last assertion, see my last post. It matters not because homosexuality is immoral and carries physical, spiritual, and psychological consequences.
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You're taking a simplistic view of the human organism and making a lot of false assertions with respect to it.
Without question, that anatomy was never designed for any other purpose than to function as part of the digestive system.
You are making a patently false assertion to state the anus was designed for sexual intercourse. It's completely untrue as any biology professor will be happy to explain to you.
In fact, the type of tissue in the anal area simply is not designed for homosexual activity while vaginal tissue is designed for intercourse. In addition to the greatest potential for sexual disease transmission, there are long term effects. People suffer adverse effects like rectal prolapse, perforation which can go septic, etc...
And I'm going to explain to you at this time that Christian Chat is not a forum for you to promote sexual immorality (including homosexuality) on and you're going to get banned if you continue doing so.
Without question, that anatomy was never designed for any other purpose than to function as part of the digestive system.
You are making a patently false assertion to state the anus was designed for sexual intercourse. It's completely untrue as any biology professor will be happy to explain to you.
In fact, the type of tissue in the anal area simply is not designed for homosexual activity while vaginal tissue is designed for intercourse. In addition to the greatest potential for sexual disease transmission, there are long term effects. People suffer adverse effects like rectal prolapse, perforation which can go septic, etc...
And I'm going to explain to you at this time that Christian Chat is not a forum for you to promote sexual immorality (including homosexuality) on and you're going to get banned if you continue doing so.