pesach = Passover not Easter = Aster = Ishtar

[john832]

He said that THE LAW was our schoolmaster. (not the law of sacrifices)

he then said that we were no longer under the schoolmaster

Exactly, after His crucifixion, there is no need for the animal sacrifices which were to show His coming sacrifice...

Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.

 

[john832]

what's in a name? Passover was not called Easter until midway through the second millennium AD. We celebrate Passover on the Lord's day which follows the full moon (Passover) after the new moon which opens up the equinox because we are celebrating the cross and resurrection not deliverance from Egypt. Thus we celebrate it on what we now call Easter Sunday, resurrection day. It is fixed by Biblical calculation, not by any feast of a goddess.

Why don't you look up the quarto-deciman controversy? What you will find is that Polycarp, a disciple of John, argued for the 14th of Nisan (this is where the term quarto-deciman comes from) and pope Anicetus argued for the Ishtar celebration. With the aid of Constantine in 325AD, the Catholic church won out.

 

[john832]

You're right! I just read it. The Word of God clearly states: For God so loved the world that He gave His own Son, that whoever believes in Him and does not use the word Easter shall have everlasting life.

Whew! That was close! I was almost condemned to hell, but thanks to you, I now understand that Jesus' saving grace at the Cross takes a back seat to using the word Easter. Thanks for pointing out the error of my ways!

Enjoy your sarcasm while you can.

 

[Utah]

My friend this is sadly the state of the church, its best to respond in love. People have very strange beliefs and are judgmental hypocritical and prideful Jesus said this would happen he said that love would become cold which is all the more reason to shine bright in the darkness

You're right, Brother, and thank you. All too often I take on the characteristics of Jesus turning over the tables in the Temple rather than Jesus holding children and blessing them. Its part zeal for Jesus' saving grace and part life experience living in a spiritually coarse area of the country. Thanks for sharing in a loving manner. God bless you, Brother.

 

[valiant]

Exactly, after His crucifixion, there is no need for the animal sacrifices which were to show His coming sacrifice...

Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.

And once we are saved there is no need for the Law. Now that faith has come we are no longer under a tutor!!!! What Law? In context 'the Law which was added because of transgressions'. You just change the Scriptures to suit yourself.

 

[Utah]

Enjoy your sarcasm while you can.

On the contrary Brother, I enjoy God's saving grace in Jesus Christ and shall do so for all eternity.

 

[Jeff_56]

So what do you do to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

read Scripture, GOD'S WORD, ask HIM, and ask the believing kindergarten Hebrews if you
want to know the TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD.
the problem with 'alternatives' to GOD'S WORD is what GOD says in HIS WORD about alternatives.
(see 'heresy' by , well, by anybody who knows.... remember the 'heresy' (the false gospel, that cannot save anyone, the ones who only serve him who only comes to kill and to steal and to destroy) is what
introduced eastr and made it a 'christian' thing when it never was...... many generations ago.)
no matter when error was introduced, it is not to be accepted as if it was ever true.

NOTHING. We are commanded to celebrate His death (the Passover) which is our justification and then celebrate His presentation of the perfect Sacrifice to the Father (the Wave Sheaf). Show me a scripture that instructs one to celebrate His resurrection.

we live in resurrection life having passed through death to the world and the world died to us.
the world cannot, cannot, no - the world cannot comprehend it.(and cannot see heaven or the heavenly or the spiritual)

and since there is no such thing in the original hebrew
INTERPUNCTION IS EVIL TOO!

watch for the sequel, interpunction II

 

[john832]

And once we are saved there is no need for the Law. Now that faith has come we are no longer under a tutor!!!! What Law? In context 'the Law which was added because of transgressions'. You just change the Scriptures to suit yourself.

Well, let's see what WAS added...

Deu 5:22 "These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Jer 7:22 For I did not speak to your fathers, or command them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices.
Jer 7:23 But this is what I commanded them, saying, 'Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be My people. And walk in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well with you.'

Burnt offerings and sacrifices were added.

So, once we are saved there is no need for Law? OK...

Isa 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
Isa 2:2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days That the mountain of the LORD's house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And all nations shall flow to it.
Isa 2:3 Many people shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

I guess Isaiah should have consulted with you before recording this Millennial prophecy.

 

[skylove7]

The Holy Spirit within my heart and soul...knows the deep love I have inside, and that 'yes' I am going to Heaven. I do not have to listen to man's judgement of the flesh, to tell me otherwise.

 

[john832]

There are many opinion posts in this thread that remind me of this...

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;

Not aimed at you skylove7.

 

[valiant]

And where have I ever said He is not resurrected? He is the firstborn among many brethren. What I have said is that He does not instruct us to celebrate His resurrection.

But as I have shown you the Lord's supper IS a celebration of His resurrection, and it was commanded by Jesus Christ. You simply close your eyes to what does not suit you.

Exactly, He arose from the dead Sabbath afternoon. When the women came to the tomb, He was already resurrected

...

Nonsense. As He said to Mary Magdalene 'Touch Me not, I have not yet gone up to My Father'. He had clearly JUST risen in accord with Hosea 6.2. Mary, and then the women, came to the tomb when the first day of the week had already been in process for nearly 12 hours by Jewish reckoning and six by Roman reckoning..

Joh 20:1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.
Joh 20:2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, "They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him."

Notice that it is still dark and the tomb is empty?

yes and almost twelve hours of the first day of the week have passed.

Now we read on...

Joh 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.' "

He had not yet fulfilled the Wave Sheaf offering.

you destroy your own argument. He would not have delayed presenting the wave sheaf. So He did so half way through the first day of the week which commenced the previous evening.

Now later that same day we read...

Joh 20:19 Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, "Peace be with you."

Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."

He had been to the Father, presented Himself as our sacrifice and then returned.

LOL you have now destroyed your case utterly. Thank you for saving me the trouble. The resurrection, the chat with Mary, the presenting of HIMSELF to the Father, and the appearance to the disciples all occurred on the first day of the week.

You may celebrate any man made tradition you wish, I will celebrate the Feasts of God.

You really are the most objectionable person I have come across on this site. And you call yourself John 8.32 'and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.' You are not free. you are entangled in the yoke of bondage and sinfully judgmental of your fellow Christians, assuming of course that you are a Christian .

 

[valiant]

Why don't you look up the quarto-deciman controversy? What you will find is that Polycarp, a disciple of John, argued for the 14th of Nisan (this is where the term quarto-deciman comes from) and pope Anicetus argued for the Ishtar celebration. With the aid of Constantine in 325AD, the Catholic church won out.

I am fully aware of the quarto-deciman controversy, an irrelevant controversy on a matter of little importance. You talk as though it was between Polycarp and Anicetus. Rather it was between two sides, one of which did not mind on what day of the week Christian Passover was celebrated, and the other who wanted it to be celebrated on the Sunday after Passover. It had absolutely nothing to do with Ishtar. You simply show your ignorance.

Neither Jesus nor the Apostles commanded the observance of Passover. Passover had become redundant. It was replaced by the days of the cross and resurrection which took place on the Friday and Sunday as fixed by the full moon after the equinox as Passover always was. Show me where Jesus commanded the observance of the Passover.

 

[FridaysChild]

The Holy Spirit within my heart and soul...knows the deep love I have inside, and that 'yes' I am going to Heaven. I do not have to listen to man's judgement of the flesh, to tell me otherwise.

agreed

"The Spirit himself bears witness to our spirit that we are God's children."
Romans 8:16

bouncing in thought...that deep love you have, God put it there so you might love Him much like He put the breath in your lungs that you might breathe. Both are essential for living. My point being that everything leads back to His glory because all things good are of His doing and not of ourselves.

 

[skylove7]

agreed

"The Spirit himself bears witness to our spirit that we are God's children."
Romans 8:16

bouncing in thought...that deep love you have, God put it there so you might love Him much like He put the breath in your lungs that you might breathe. Both are essential for living. My point being that everything leads back to His glory because all things good are of His doing and not of ourselves.

You have a beautiful soul FridaysChild....thank you for sharing and acknowledging my comment! Someday all of us, in debates,...will be in Heaven! Loving one another....no argument. Because right or wrong, God recognizes the strength of our love on earth! And LOVING...is the main key to heaven I think. God will explain other elements of this and that, when we get there... My opinion that is...

 

[tourist]

The Holy Spirit within my heart and soul...knows the deep love I have inside, and that 'yes' I am going to Heaven. I do not have to listen to man's judgement of the flesh, to tell me otherwise.

I believe that what you have written is true.

 

[Jeff_56]

so does a multitude (in BIBLE:Revelation) on judgment day, all thinking they've made it.......

 

[Apostol2013]

We also celebrate His resurrection too and also primarily on the Sabbath and on the first day of the week they met to break bread with the singing of Psalms and reading scriptures so the apostle did celebrate the Lords day the resurrection of the Lord

 

[skylove7]

Thank you tourist! You are very kind,..thank you.

 

[MarcR]

The real biblical term to be used is Passover it is official bible terminology in a way we can all agree upon the Gentiles use Easter because they have bought into the Vatican's lie input into today's day through forced control upon many kingdoms through lies deceit and violence including murder they have changed the laws and times to fit their agenda to world dominance the very bank that is untouchable is the Sweden bank the Vatican's own personal bank but the issue here is it is Passover nog Easter

While I dislike the Pagan influences in the name Easter; commemorating the Lord's resurrection is certainly appropriate.

The crucifixion indeed corresponds to Passover; but the resurrection corresponds to Firstfruits.

However Firstfruits is not focused on the resurrection. Resurrection Sunday commemorates the resurrection; and that is important.

The name 'Easter' comes from a Teutonic fertility goddess. That is where the association with colored eggs and rabbits comes from. Easter used to be associated with public orgies; but that was a bit more than Victorian England was ready for.

I would like to see the name changed to Resurrection Sunday to separate the commemoration from the pagan associations of the name Easter; but since many who are not regular church attenders come to church on 'Easter'; perhaps there is some merit in retaining the name as a witnessing tool.

 

[skylove7]

We also celebrate His resurrection too and also primarily on the Sabbath and on the first day of the week they met to break bread with the singing of Psalms and reading scriptures so the apostle did celebrate the Lords day the resurrection of the Lord

Ahhh...the Psalms! Heavens soothing song! Is it not? How I loooove songs of Psalms, Praise God thank you!