Okay, so are we still going to post on these things and consider them without the troll?
I cannot see the seven stars as the seven Spirits of God in revelation so claerly as He seems to show us what each are.
For example firstly, the seven Spirits are shown (before the throne)
Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches (candlesticks) which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Then here seven stars in his right hand
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Then the mystery of the seven stars in his right hand
Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand,
and the seven golden candlesticks.
Of these seven stars in his right hand are the angels (of the seven chruches)
The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:
and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;
These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand,
who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 3:1 And unto the angel (a star) of the church (candlestick) in Sardis write;
Now both here (the seven Spirits and the seven stars/angels)
These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars (angels);
I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
And then here no mention of the seven stars with the seven Spirits but horns and eyes
Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
So seven horns (not mentioned at all in revelation)and seven eyes (which were to be on the stone laid before Joshua Zech 3:9) and here is where these both are shown as the seven Spirits of God sent into all the earth.
Rev 1:4 .... we see the seven Spirits of God which are before his throne;
Rev 1:16 ... we see the seven stars in his right hand
Rev 1:20...and we are told the mystery of the seven stars (in his right hand) are the angels (of the seven churches/ candlesticks)
Rev 3:1 shows both together with a a comma and an "and"betweenthe seven Spirits and seven stars (we are told are angels) here
These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars;
Whereas here no stars are mentioned in Rev 5:6 but rather seven eyes and seven horns which are the seven Spirits this way
Rev 5 :6 a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Stars in his hand (and the mystery of the same being angels) could very well be shown in the law then, ordained by angels in the hand of the mediator (Gal 3:19)
The stone laid before Joshua would have seven eyes upon and those same seven eyes are shown in Rev 5:6 where the picture of the lamb that had been slain is shown where there is nothing there about the seven stars but seven Spirits (which are shown before the throne) in Rev 1:4 whereas the seven stars are shown in his right hand Rev 1:16 And both the seven Spirits and seven stars are mentioned together in Rev 3:1.
Now Jesus being conceived of the Holy Ghost was annointed by the Spirit through John and he himself (by the Spirit) was driven out into the wilderness to be tempted of Satan right after. In the end there we see in Mat 4:11 where the angels came and ministered to him. So how can the seven eyes upon him (who is both the stone and the Lamb that was slain) be the angels, when these came to him (even as they minister unto the heirs of eternal salvation (as they did Jesus Christ as well?) And likewise it shows that Jesus come back in the power of the Spirit after that.
But I cannot see how the seven Spirits = the seven stars (which are the angels of the seven churches) that is unclear to me how that can be given all the scripture (minus some not posted) which hasnt made that too clear. Although to me it looks like the fulness of God in both the stone (or as was in Christ) who ascended as the Lamb slain and the same seven Spirits (or one which divideth severally) being sent, represent of his fulness we have received.
I just cant see the same being of the angels even though I know the verses of making his angels ministering spirits and all but only because of how its set up in Revelation, which appears to put a barrier up to meshing the two together there. At least for me anyway.
Still looking at this though, posted on the seven eyes before with all my questioning there and I do not really asking anything because I kick myself for asking things on boards alot, but if anyone can make it mesh give it whirl I would love to see that.