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You are attacking me more instead of actually explaining or addressing any of the points in Scripture I brought up. This is a Bible discussion forum and not a "I Hate Jason Forum." Either discuss the points in Scripture or please refrain from discussing a non Bible related topic about how you feel about me. Be a good Berean and show me WHERE I have erred in my interpretation of this passage. Does not Romans 8:1, Romans 8:7-8 teach against a sin and still be saved doctrine?
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Oh I just truly love love love it when people want to be so helpful they must nit pick their way through absolutely everything because, after all, it is close to blasphemy to not use the absolute correct measurement.
Listen: I chose those verses because I personally love the fact that it is God that keeps us.
I am well aware that there is far more to salvation and that fact we cannot earn it or even keep it on our own
I hope I made your day
I have not been this sarcastic in years.
"Bro" is reserved for those you are in close intimacy with. If you say "Bro" the President, or to your new boss, then that would be a sign of disrespect. If we are in strong disagreement over Soteriology, one side is obviously not thinking the other side is right with God so one cannot say "bro" to the opposition because they are not thinking they really are an actual brother (If they say they have no understanding of God's Word and His grace, etc., etc.).
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I am simply addressing the fact you have no defence scripturally speaking, for the way you interpret salvation.
Salvation is not God + Jesus + Jason = salvation.
Why is it that when someone cannot defend their position, they resort to saying they are being attacked (rhetorical question)
You know, you just accused me of hating you and attacking you...would you like a kleenex?
Salvation is not God + Jesus + Jason = salvation.
Why is it that when someone cannot defend their position, they resort to saying they are being attacked (rhetorical question)
You know, you just accused me of hating you and attacking you...would you like a kleenex?
MAN, you sure have quite a few pity parties.....and many have shown you the error of your ways and you refuse to acknowledge the truth......and no...your not a GOOD BEREAN CHRISTIAN.........some gall to label and promote yourself as GOOD CHRISTIAN.....Technically the Lord of HEAVEN INSPIRED the writer to give that statement as directed at the Berean brothers....they did not apply it unto themselves.....
I don't think it is disrespectful to say bro and or dude.....sorry you are so easily offended.....so which verse do you use to show that it is wrong to call someone bro which is short for brother and or dude?
Would that be found in the book of Jason chapter 1 verse 1?
If it was not so tragic it would actually be humorous.........!
Would that be found in the book of Jason chapter 1 verse 1?
If it was not so tragic it would actually be humorous.........!
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I believe that everyone finds their own way with God. I believe that a relationship with God is exactly that, a relationship, and in being such they will not all be the same. This does not mean that I believe all "relationships" with God are true and that they will be saved and going to heaven. I think that professing to know the truth about the Bible and what it means is a dangerous thing because God speaks so much on false prophets and I believe misleading believers is one of the biggest sins you can commit.
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"
1 John 1:8-10 "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."
Jason0047 I have read many of your posts on this thread and first off I am very impressed with your knowledge of the Bible, but I believe that many of the verses you have used have been taken out of context and are misleading in their meaning. I don't doubt that you believe what you are saying, you clearly fell very strongly on the subject. However you come across very hostile and superior, obviously I can not know what you are thinking or feeling but for me someone who attempts to shove their beliefs down my throat isn't someone I would want to listen to. So I would suggest that if you truly believe you are correct and you truly want people to believe in the way that you do, that you approach it differently. I am not trying to single out because many people on this thread have just started fighting, it is no longer a discussion of trying to understand the Bible and its meaning it is simply trying to prove the other wrong. In my opinion God's word should speak for itself it does not need an advocate to force others to believe. We are to bring others to God in love and show them the love and the grace of God. I don't see any love or any grace in this thread and that to me means we are missing the point. Sure God has rules and the debate on wether there are sins that are unforgivable is a hard one to prove but why do we need to prove it to one another. God will be the judge when it is time.
Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools."
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"
1 John 1:8-10 "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."
Jason0047 I have read many of your posts on this thread and first off I am very impressed with your knowledge of the Bible, but I believe that many of the verses you have used have been taken out of context and are misleading in their meaning. I don't doubt that you believe what you are saying, you clearly fell very strongly on the subject. However you come across very hostile and superior, obviously I can not know what you are thinking or feeling but for me someone who attempts to shove their beliefs down my throat isn't someone I would want to listen to. So I would suggest that if you truly believe you are correct and you truly want people to believe in the way that you do, that you approach it differently. I am not trying to single out because many people on this thread have just started fighting, it is no longer a discussion of trying to understand the Bible and its meaning it is simply trying to prove the other wrong. In my opinion God's word should speak for itself it does not need an advocate to force others to believe. We are to bring others to God in love and show them the love and the grace of God. I don't see any love or any grace in this thread and that to me means we are missing the point. Sure God has rules and the debate on wether there are sins that are unforgivable is a hard one to prove but why do we need to prove it to one another. God will be the judge when it is time.
Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools."
You have now used 1 John 3.15 and only part of it 3 or 4 times.
You use it this way:
For no murderer has eternal life abiding within them (1 John 3:15).
Yet the whole verse is:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
you are using a proof text as a pretext and are out of context.
WOW,
You just completely refuted and contradicted yourself and every one of your posts in this OP with this statement.
SO you do SIN and need to aks forgiveness of your lil mess ups.
We have been saying this all along, yet you think we are just a bunch of sexin, drunkin, smokin, cussin, blasphemin, vermin that think just cuz we got us some grace we are exempt form righteousness and holiness.
Not only do you works based/conditional salvation believers instill fear, but your PRIDE, is out of control and your pride against others in the body is why most of you all are ignored.
Jesus told us this in the parable of the mustard seed, that the kingdom would grow to be so tall and lush that the birds[satan/demons] would nest in the branches. Tall trees are symbols for pride in the Bible and you sir, need some pruning done
You use it this way:
For no murderer has eternal life abiding within them (1 John 3:15).
Yet the whole verse is:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
you are using a proof text as a pretext and are out of context.
WOW,
You just completely refuted and contradicted yourself and every one of your posts in this OP with this statement.
SO you do SIN and need to aks forgiveness of your lil mess ups.
We have been saying this all along, yet you think we are just a bunch of sexin, drunkin, smokin, cussin, blasphemin, vermin that think just cuz we got us some grace we are exempt form righteousness and holiness.
Not only do you works based/conditional salvation believers instill fear, but your PRIDE, is out of control and your pride against others in the body is why most of you all are ignored.
Jesus told us this in the parable of the mustard seed, that the kingdom would grow to be so tall and lush that the birds[satan/demons] would nest in the branches. Tall trees are symbols for pride in the Bible and you sir, need some pruning done
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Hey Ray, you will understand in due time friend.........! We are all supposed to be adults here and some people flip out at things that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.....people are dying and going to hell and someone who is supposed to be a saved child of God is offended at being called Bro which is short for brother.....talk about swallowing a camel and choking on a gnat!
