Dating before Marriage

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Nemakiza

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Hi all,

Does it matter to date before marriage? For instance you have met someone may be you became friends or you know that person and you are not friends. Then final you decided to marry this person even if you have never been in a serious relationship ( both you and this person know that we are official boyfriend and girlfriend).

I mean that does dating help to get the right person or for relationship to last?



* I dream, hope and pray for you my future spouse*
 
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cmarieh

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I believe in courtship where you only go out with a person because you see long term with them: marriage and children. I do believe that you need to start with a friendship because any relationship needs to have trust and what better way to have trust than my dating each other to get to know each other.
 
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blue_ladybug

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You should not date before marriage..Dating can lead to other things. If you're meant to be married, God will send you the right person at the right time. :)
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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You should not date before marriage..Dating can lead to other things. If you're meant to be married, God will send you the right person at the right time. :)
I don't get this. :confused:
 
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I believe in courtship where you only go out with a person because you see long term with them: marriage and children. I do believe that you need to start with a friendship because any relationship needs to have trust and what better way to have trust than my dating each other to get to know each other.
Courtship (Cortejo, in Spanish) sounds too good (and unreal) because, presently, I see it HARD to find a person who thinks that way.

As old as I am I have seen it painstakungly, even when so many poeple are emotionally "connected" (and "lovingly" engaged) with somany persons AT THE SAME TIME.

If you were on facebook, looking at what people publicly said, you would agree on and, fortunatelly, we don't have access to THEIR private messaging (and I know by real experiences what THEY said to "engaged", legally married people and those who are churchy committed.

Of course!

Iḿ talking about Latin American people I know and knew. I also have seen ladies (or men) sending more texts messages to their "friends" than those they said they loved or married so, their committment or courtship seemed to be around other things, not to a safe and SOUND love, not to that PERSONNAL exclusivity real courtship should be attached.

Whatever the name it be given, the important thing is the person we are chosing from a pile (or picking up out to keep home).
 

JonahLynx

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I'm sure it helps, but it's not the only way. Most cultures had some degree of arranged marriages. Either a spouse was completely decided by the parents, or the parents would choose the candidates. This was evidently a very robust system since it persisted throughout nearly all of human history, including most Biblical relationships. This form is extremely utility-focused, but it does not mean that these marriages are less intimate. I think it might be better than the west's dating culture because the marriage is founded on responsibilities rather than compatibility.

One negative to dating is that you can become accustomed to dropping out of the relationship if the person is below your standards - which you would not be able to do in a marriage. Dating is mostly based on what the other person can do for you, so perhaps this is one reason divorce rates are significantly higher in cultures with this practice. We generally enter marriages because we believe "This is the best person for me," rather than "This is someone I've been united with." So, when emotional lows call these ideas into question, the first one is more likely to fail. Not saying either form is perfect, but I definitely see the benefit to arrangement.

On the other hand, dating can minimize the chance of marrying someone who is a polar opposite. But I don't think most parents would choose someone who has no compatibility. So is this really an advantage?

/digression
 
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You should not date before marriage..Dating can lead to other things. If you're meant to be married, God will send you the right person at the right time. :)

Other things -somewhat groupingly?

Courtship too!

Blinddating is not ant better than courtship. And when someone was married as a blinded, he/she knows where they went.

Will friends hide & seek?

Will they say: "I'm this! and cannot be like this"

We fear too many things.

We have prayed, before marrying and, once it is done, we may say: "I was wrong" or "Someone wrong me: She / he wasn't the person I liked"


No one wants to "date" or "marry" a problem!


It's better to know who is who, before a wedding, to spare our lives from one divorce.
 
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ray_james

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You should not date before marriage..Dating can lead to other things. If you're meant to be married, God will send you the right person at the right time. :)
With all kindness, I disagree with you! I think dating Is perfectly fine before marriage, it is a great way to get to know the person that could potentially be your life mate!

I believe that dating, in today's society, has lost it's original purpose. People go on dates now to have fun or a good time which is not the purpose! Dating is designed for a person to go out with some one they plan on pursuing a future with, not something you do just to do for the fun of it.

I also believe that when you do go out on a date you have an individual there to keep you accountable for you actions, because it is easy to fall into temptation no matter how strong you think you are.
-ray

EDIT: Sorry blue_ladybug, just saw your next post. You added "much" into there. lol
 
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blue_ladybug

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i forgot the word "much." Should not date much before marriage. :)
With all kindness, I disagree with you! I think dating Is perfectly fine before marriage, it is a great way to get to know the person that could potentially be your life mate!

I believe that dating, in today's society, has lost it's original purpose. People go on dates now to have fun or a good time which is not the purpose! Dating is designed for a person to go out with some one they plan on pursuing a future with, not something you do just to do for the fun of it.

I also believe that when you do go out on a date you have an individual there to keep you accountable for you actions, because it is easy to fall into temptation no matter how strong you think you are.
-ray
ahem..........
 
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Hi all,

Does it matter to date before marriage? For instance you have met someone may be you became friends or you know that person and you are not friends. Then final you decided to marry this person even if you have never been in a serious relationship ( both you and this person know that we are official boyfriend and girlfriend).

I mean that does dating help to get the right person or for relationship to last?



* I dream, hope and pray for you my future spouse*
Isaac married a person HE WAS NOT HER FRIEND... Who knows how they became lovers or long-termed friends?

Your key question:

"I mean that does dating help to get the right person or for relationship to last? "

Time will only tell!

Dating-courtship only served to know who you are walking with.
If it served to know his mind, you were blessed.

So, if you like to "read" what he says by his deeds, you don´t need to listen to his words; ´ cause deeds speak louder than words.
 
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ray_james

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I apologize, I didn't realize you had posted that until after I had posted mine!
 
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i forgot the word "much." Should not date much before marriage. :)
Does dating make a person "impure"?

The more people a person knows, the more chances he / she has to find out who they like (more).
 
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Nemakiza

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Thank you all for the contributions you have made. It is so strange, I don't count on dating things otherwise you are my spouse. I don't believe that dating will help my relationship last or to know my spouse better. I am a person who is nervous when I am thinking about marriage. I don't know what does it look a like. Yes I experiences this from my parents and relative but I am always nervous.


As I grow up I find dating is like a trap to those women who desire to keep their virgin, otherwise you are strong enough to let go off when a man walk out of your life because you say No to sex. I always feel like our grandparents were luck because their parents look for their soul mates, I admire their idea.


I think dating increases the chance for people to stay single. I will try to look for a man who will attract me but not need to be perfect, though I will never stop to pray for his perfection. So blind date to me is fine. I will love to have a man I never met before because the rest I will leave in the hands of God.
 

Roh_Chris

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I'm sure it helps, but it's not the only way. Most cultures had some degree of arranged marriages. Either a spouse was completely decided by the parents, or the parents would choose the candidates. This was evidently a very robust system since it persisted throughout nearly all of human history, including most Biblical relationships. This form is extremely utility-focused, but it does not mean that these marriages are less intimate. I think it might be better than the west's dating culture because the marriage is founded on responsibilities rather than compatibility.

One negative to dating is that you can become accustomed to dropping out of the relationship if the person is below your standards - which you would not be able to do in a marriage. Dating is mostly based on what the other person can do for you, so perhaps this is one reason divorce rates are significantly higher in cultures with this practice. We generally enter marriages because we believe "This is the best person for me," rather than "This is someone I've been united with." So, when emotional lows call these ideas into question, the first one is more likely to fail. Not saying either form is perfect, but I definitely see the benefit to arrangement.

On the other hand, dating can minimize the chance of marrying someone who is a polar opposite. But I don't think most parents would choose someone who has no compatibility. So is this really an advantage?

/digression

I disagree. In this age, when there are even compatibility issues between children and their parents, arranged marriages can often end in a disaster. I come from a country where arranged marriages fail at least as often as the love marriages (if not more). Furthermore, the pressure on the couple to conform and patch-up is higher on arranged marriages, thereby leading to broken families and traumatised children.
 
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Nemakiza

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I disagree. In this age, when there are even compatibility issues between children and their parents, arranged marriages can often end in a disaster. I come from a country where arranged marriages fail at least as often as the love marriages (if not more). Furthermore, the pressure on the couple to conform and patch-up is higher on arranged marriages, thereby leading to broken families and traumatised children.
Roh_Chris, the problem is that most people don't know what does marriage mean? If you love someone going for dating is not important. what matter to me is how we will deal with our marriage. We should accept each other if there is love between us otherwise it will be nonsense to live with someone you don't desire. How many have been dating and they still dating and got no one who is read to put a ring on it? I know men are the only ones who marry, poor us women. A man can even substitute for any women if he desires to marry but women can not.
 
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Thank you all for the contributions you have made. It is so strange, I don't count on dating things otherwise you are my spouse. I don't believe that dating will help my relationship last or to know my spouse better. I am a person who is nervous when I am thinking about marriage. I don't know what does it look a like. Yes I experiences this from my parents and relative but I am always nervous.


As I grow up I find dating is like a trap to those women who desire to keep their virgin, otherwise you are strong enough to let go off when a man walk out of your life because you say No to sex. I always feel like our grandparents were luck because their parents look for their soul mates, I admire their idea.


I think dating increases the chance for people to stay single. I will try to look for a man who will attract me but not need to be perfect, though I will never stop to pray for his perfection. So blind date to me is fine. I will love to have a man I never met before because the rest I will leave in the hands of God.

Ohhhh!

I already said something about it on "What I´m doing wrong".

Further words:

I have years online, I have met several persons who thought it that way and, as far I know this secular man who writes, blind dates do not work the best possible way.

Let the people be SEEN the way the are.

:cool:
 
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I disagree. In this age, when there are even compatibility issues between children and their parents, arranged marriages can often end in a disaster. I come from a country where arranged marriages fail at least as often as the love marriages (if not more). Furthermore, the pressure on the couple to conform and patch-up is higher on arranged marriages, thereby leading to broken families and traumatised children.

Absolutelly, sir!

I got divorce for many reasons (I also lack real love for my ex- wife) but, the moment I got bored their family tried to rule my own children, when they repeatedly have a word CONTRADICTING my authority (in front of my kids) I decided to leave all.

Marriage is for two persons who have to learn to be ONE. If her family (or mine) get involved too... What a mess!

It´s like talking, in a chatting room, with too many voices at the same time.
 
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Roh_Chris, the problem is that most people don't know what does marriage mean? If you love someone going for dating is not important. what matter to me is how we will deal with our marriage. We should accept each other if there is love between us otherwise it will be nonsense to live with someone you don't desire. How many have been dating and they still dating and got no one who is read to put a ring on it? I know men are the only ones who marry, poor us women. A man can even substitute for any women if he desires to marry but women can not.
Men, also, are like spare parts: They also can be replaced (and used)

Google that! It is also broadcasted on TV and radio stations. If it wans´t so... Reality shows also talked.

At the end of the days, the victims are their children (poor us women.)
 
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DCrawshawJr

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I'm sure it helps, but it's not the only way. Most cultures had some degree of arranged marriages. Either a spouse was completely decided by the parents, or the parents would choose the candidates. This was evidently a very robust system since it persisted throughout nearly all of human history, including most Biblical relationships. This form is extremely utility-focused, but it does not mean that these marriages are less intimate. I think it might be better than the west's dating culture because the marriage is founded on responsibilities rather than compatibility.

One negative to dating is that you can become accustomed to dropping out of the relationship if the person is below your standards - which you would not be able to do in a marriage. Dating is mostly based on what the other person can do for you, so perhaps this is one reason divorce rates are significantly higher in cultures with this practice. We generally enter marriages because we believe "This is the best person for me," rather than "This is someone I've been united with." So, when emotional lows call these ideas into question, the first one is more likely to fail. Not saying either form is perfect, but I definitely see the benefit to arrangement.

On the other hand, dating can minimize the chance of marrying someone who is a polar opposite. But I don't think most parents would choose someone who has no compatibility. So is this really an advantage?

/digression
You're absolutely right.

I used to think dating was the only way to find a wife, because that what everyone else did. I am SO grateful for the Internet, and learning more of the truth of Christianity.

I don't think dating really works. Now, I know I sound like a hypocrite because I've never had a real "relationship", but neither did the people in Biblical times. You could say that Jacob had a "relationship" with Rachel in Genesis 29 (since he had to work for seven years), but given the culture of the time, I doubt it. I doubt that Jacob even touched Rachel during that time. Of course, Jacob was deceived by going to bed with Leah, which begs the question, "How did Jacob not know who was who?" This leads me to believe that the people of the day were very cautious when it comes to even "first base".

Why don't I think dating (in the modern sense) really works? Well, if you believe what you see and hear about the idea, couples constantly touch each other, kiss each other, and are very emotionally connected to each other, all this even before marriage. Now, I'm not talking about Biblical courtship, I'm talking about dating as is portrayed in the world. It is written, "Treat younger women as sisters, with absolute purity" (I Timothy 5:2). How can you be pure with someone you're not married to if you're temped to get fresh with them? And I'm not talking about sex, I'm talking about first base! This is the basis behind biblical courtship, and prohibition of kissing until marriage.

OK, so how does a guy who is "burning with passion" (I Corinthians 7:9) find a wife to, for one thing, finally have that release of sexual tension (which is not the only part of marriage, mind you)?

I totally agree with the idea of arranged marriages and betrothals, because the basis of the marriage is not mere "compatibility", nor is it "romantic love", but rather what is written in the Word of God. It's more practical than romantic. THAT is love. I have always told people, "I'd rather have someone butt ugly who will stay with me for life than someone drop-dead gorgeous who will not commit." Is this desperation? Maybe. Is it a sin? No. The sin is sexual immorality, and in marriage, denying someone "due benevolence" when needed. (I Corinthians 7:3-5, KJV wording). I am not in it solely for the sex. I'm in it to do what's right because I still get horny.

I'm not saying courtship and "biblical dating" is wrong, because it's certainly better than worldly dating. However, just yapping about it won't get me a wife, so I am willing to date, not worldly style, but giving my pitch (in love) to a maiden and her family, with a little bit of Mr. Wonderful thrown in. BUT REMEMBER! Think of the other person's needs and desires as well, as you all already know.