2nd Amendment in light of the Light of Christ

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With regards to guns and the US 2nd amendment, WWJD?

  • This falls under Jesus' command to "render unto Caesar." Follow the laws of the land.

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Jesus was a revolutionary and would be pro-gun.

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Jesus was a pacifist and would be anti-gun.

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Jesus would have supported the right for others to own guns, but would have encouraged his followers

    Votes: 3 60.0%

  • Total voters
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OFM

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I used to think OFM was a troll. I'm starting to think maybe he's just ... umm.... special. He reminds me of a puppy. Cute, full of love, easily distracted, and completely well-intentioned. The more I read his posts with that in mind, the more sense they make. But now I'm the one "ASSuming," so there's irony for ya.
Thanx Sister Diva,i love to write fact with fiction very creative style i just love 2 write way 2 much b blessed allways
 

VCO

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Bibles, Guns, & the Second Amendment

Let me start this off with a contraversial question and a Biblical Answer:

IS PURCHASING A WEAPON FOR SELF DEFENSE PURPOSES BIBLICAL?

Luke 22:36 (HCSB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Then He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money-bag should take it, and also a traveling bag. And whoever doesn’t have a sword should sell his robe and buy one.

Yes they had violent crimes back then, too. In fact that is why Barabas was in jail awaiting his execution. Therefore, I certainly do believe it is Biblical to buy a weapon for self defense. Yes I believe the Second Ammedment rights should remain in tact, unaltered, and protected, and Yes I am a member of the NRA. I have been a hunter and/or sports shooter since I was 12 years old. My Dad bought me my first shotgun (a single shot .410) when I was 12, and spent most of that day repeatedly going over gun safety rules and every thing I needed to know about that weapon. And over the next few weeks he would test us to see if we remembered them. A couple weeks later, with permission, I walked across to a neighbor's field by myself, and came home with two pheasants, for the family supper. I was proud as a peacock.

NEVER in my life have I intentionally pointed the barrel of a weapon at anyone. Those safety rules are still with me, and have become second nature. I know there are gun accidents every year, and I believe, there is but ONE cause, somebody violated one or more safety rules. I also know, there is an explosion in violent crimes, in these latter days. BUT I BELIEVE that is a result of how their parents raised them or not raised them, these days. I also believe limiting legally sold guns or ammo, will SOLVE NOTHING, because; MOST criminals steal or buy their weapons illegally from someone who did steal them. And those who do break into homes to steal weapons, ALSO take the ammo too. What we do not need is more gun laws. What we need to do is spend the extra money to put more police officers in the field, enforcing the gun laws that are already on the books. How about giving the police the authority to use a simple infared camera to see if the gangsters standing on the street corner have weapons under their coats. Yes that costs more money, but what is more important, spending our tax dollars here, or abroad.

2 Timothy 3:1 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:

{That greek word that translates to perilous in English, can ALSO BE TRANSLATED VICIOUS.}

I know there are some who will be shocked by my position on this issue facing our Nation today, and some will heatedly oppose my view. So go ahead, hurl rocks if you must, and I will pray that God turns them into soft ones. I believe it is primarily a man's job to protect the family, but there are things a woman should know too, in case she is home alone, when there is a forced entry. Vicious times have come, and YES it is biblical to defend yourself and family. They were not buying those swords as a fashion statement.
 

VCO

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Another Point that I forgot to mention is in this portion of the GOSPEL OF JOHN:

John 18:8-11 (ASV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Jesus answered, I told you that I am he; if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that the word might be fulfilled which he spake, Of those whom thou hast given me I lost not one.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Simon Peter therefore having a sword drew it, and struck the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. Now the servant's name was Malchus.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Jesus therefore said unto Peter, Put up the sword into the sheath: the cup which the Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

Peter was trying to take his head off, but Malchus was quick and ducked, loosing only an ear. BUT NOTICE THAT JESUS ONLY TOLD HIM TO PUT THE SWORD BACK INTO THE SHEATH. He DID NOT tell him to throw it away. That is how common it was in those days to carry a short sword as a defensive weapon.



That is what a short Roman Style Sword looked like in those days and was the most common self defense weapon carried.

 
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p_rehbein

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Other than VCO...................where in the world did all these people suddenly come from? Back! Back I say......goodness.
 
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Other than VCO...................where in the world did all these people suddenly come from? Back! Back I say......goodness.
Why did VCO bring back a thread from 2012 which is almost 3 years old? :confused:
 

p_rehbein

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Why did VCO bring back a thread from 2012 which is almost 3 years old? :confused:
It doesn't look like he did. His last comment was in 2013. Where in the world did this thread come from, and WHO PUT IT HERE? Eerie................................goodness
 
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VioletReigns

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cookies!
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p_rehbein

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Now we got ColinCat, our resident atheist, bringing his threads here instead of the BDF.

COOKIE MONSTERS, SADDLE UP! WE GOT COOKIES TO DO!
 
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VioletReigns

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Yummy! Pretty!
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psychomom

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Now we got ColinCat, our resident atheist, bringing his threads here instead of the BDF.

COOKIE MONSTERS, SADDLE UP! WE GOT COOKIES TO DO!
(he was banned earlier this evening)
 

kodiak

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Now we got ColinCat, our resident atheist, bringing his threads here instead of the BDF.

COOKIE MONSTERS, SADDLE UP! WE GOT COOKIES TO DO!
wasn't he banned?



Are we saying that Jesus would allow guns so we could protect cookies? Can't we just hire this guy to protect our cookies?
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VCO

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yes in peacefull ways only as a christian i personally spiritually believe only and allways>>>>amen<<<<.

Would you please try to tell that to the Christians that ISIS has killed, and tortured.

The Jews had that theory in WWII. How did that turn out.

Like Sheep: Why Didn't You Fight?

But some chose to arm themselves and fight back, such as the the Polish Jewish Bielski brothers
I suggest that you watch the 2008 movie, "DEFIANCE", that is based on the True Story of their battles to survive, while the Nazis were trying to exterminate them. Defiance (2008 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[video]https://youtu.be/7CEYqIjhTHs?list=PLF049B7F6E7E15BD6[/video]


You were never in the military were you?
 
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Would you please try to tell that to the Christians that ISIS has killed, and tortured.

The Jews had that theory in WWII. How did that turn out.

Like Sheep: Why Didn't You Fight?

But some chose to arm themselves and fight back, such as the the Polish Jewish Bielski brothers
I suggest that you watch the 2008 movie, "DEFIANCE", that is based on the True Story of their battles to survive, while the Nazis were trying to exterminate them. Defiance (2008 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[video]https://youtu.be/7CEYqIjhTHs?list=PLF049B7F6E7E15BD6[/video]
VCO,

Are you aware that this thread is OVER 2 1/2 YEARS old and the person you are talking to has not been in for awhile?
 

VCO

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VCO,

Are you aware that this thread is OVER 2 1/2 YEARS old and the person you are talking to has not been in for awhile?

That does not matter, I just found it, and since it is automatically added to the Lastest Activity, some others will read what I have posted. It is still very relevant to today and the plight of the Christians being persecuted by ISIS, which is why we must always preserve our Second Amendment Rights. Christians throughout history, have been called to War, and Military Service is certainly part of "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's".









I believe Serving in the Military, and be armed for self defense, were both taught by Jesus Christ.