Please read as I am losing faith

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MrGone said:
Sorry, let me preface my back story. I am young. I don't understand why the bible wouldn't warn people of parasites and other diseases. Besides these outdated things, I don't know understand certain biblical teachings. I can go into greater detail if you'd like. I raise these questions during bible study at church but i get frowned upon.
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You must be very young. God did warn. Read the law. He doesn't use the word "parasite," and he tends to mention specific diseases (gives a long dissertation on literacy), but it's in there way before Man knew it existed. Have you read the Bible through yet? Your questions are so basic it sounds like you haven't.

Don't count on church Bible study as your education. (They're like picking up electives outside your field of choice in college -- fun to learn, but not your meat and potatoes.) You're supposed to be doing your own studying. Go to Esword.net, and start downloading. Pick Bible versions you like, make sure you have at least five, and make sure one of them is KJV+. No, I'm not big on KJV, but a man named Strong gave us a Bible aid that requires KJV, since that's what he used. The Bible aid is called a concordance. A concordance tells you what every English word in the KJV means -- original word, language, what it looked like, all possible definitions, and where it shows up in the Bible. I also recommend interlinear, since that covers other locations.

Then download some aids. I recommend (and the order is only from the way they show up in my ESword) Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible, Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible, John Gill's Exposition on the Whole Bible, Jamieson, Fasset and Brown Commentary, Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary, Robert's Picture Words, Vine's Expository, Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge, Strong's Concordance, Easton's Bible Dictionary, Faussett's Bible Dictionary (aren't you glad this is all free. Hubby paid for the printed versions decades ago and they're very expensive lol), International Standards Bible Encyclopedia, and Webster's 1828 dictionary, simply because most of the commentators were alive so long ago that they use words that aren't used anymore. (Also, be glad it's not hubby's list of recommended downloads. He's smarter than I am, so this list goes four times longer, if it were him. lol)

Then spend a couple of hours downloading the program and the books. (At least that's how long it took me, but I'm not a natural on a computer. I grew up on typewriters. lol) Then start studying the book yourself.

You haven't lost your faith. You're just young enough to assume others are supposed to put in the effort for you. Stop assuming that and you'll be fine. God's bigger than you can imagine. Dare to ask the big questions, but be willing to search for his answers in his word. It's either in there, or he didn't think it was important enough for us to know. (Parasites -- important. Unicorns can't be answered. It's in there but what does it mean?)
 
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? Have you received the Holy Spirit into your heart? Do you love God the Father?

Faith is is the evidence of things not seen. You need to ask God to show you evidence of things not seen. Once you know God is, then you realize anything is possible, even filling a boat with animals and one family.
 
Can you see air? Yet you see the results of it....your not blue and in a coffin....

We walk by faith and not sight........

Not to mention that there is overwhelming world wide evidence of a deluge that swept the planet and up until the acid guru college educated professors most geologists would testify to the fact of a world wide deluge.
 
MrGone said:
I wanted honest discussion, but instead I got nonsense. It's cool. My side is winning and will win. Good luck amongst the Greek/Roman gods.
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GOD's Word is not 'based' on 'logic', that is of 'this world's pattern', but of 'HIS thought and HIS ways are higher than mankind'.

HE will not share HIS Glory with 'men' but 'only' through HIS SON, LORD JESUS CHRIST, and onto us 'as it is written in the HOLY BIBLE', and we 'believe', even though anyone may say or challenge in carnality/flesh. For the 'written' knowledge is 'Spiritual', and we conform in 'spirit' and to stand according to them.

The most important thing is the 'Gospel' to 'these', in order to be 'reconcile' with GOD through CHRIST, to know according to what HE 'reveals'.

We are not to please 'itching ears', what they want to hear, when they want to be 'right' and 'research' and 'known them all along' and control every human beings to be under them.

These were the very same 'quest' of 'nimrod' and others all through the HOLY BIBLE, being 'instruments' opposing GOD, belonging to satan 'unknowingly', being slave to the 'father of lies'.

Please go to 'You Tube', to 'sir Ron Wyatt's' discovery of Noah's Ark. There we will all learn the 'technology' used to built that boat out of wood, were far advance that men's.

GOD proves, even in 'sir Ron Wyatt's prayer', GOD revealed archology discovery, just for us 'believers' and 'children' and in simple written knowledge 'faith' for 'assurance', that 'HIS thoughts and ways are higher than men', that also HE will not share HIS Glory with them at all, those without 'faith', but to us HIS redeemed through CHRIST.

The 'Ark of GOD through Noah' is 'found' and 'visible' in 'Mont Ararat' in 'Turkey'. The Turkish government have taken over, since it is found in their ground and they further built a 'get away restaurant', for 'tourist' to 'admire' their 'false faith'.

But a 'born again' and by his prayer to 'prove to the world', by GOD's Will through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT discovered them 'first' and non-other and the 'atheist', who want to 'ignore', every 'glimpse' of the 'naked written truth'

Sadly these people on thier own like the 'beginner nimrod', will 'look and look and they cannot see' and they will 'hear and hear and they cannot hear'. And they will continue on their own 'building on their own thinking and in failures', time and time again in 'a cycle', without GOD, and start pointing 'fingers' on the 'innocent' who are only 'believing' in faith, to GOD's written every Word(CHRIST), according to the HOLY BIBLE.

'Faith' is not based on 'logic' in what we 'see' or must 'see', but in all that is written as knowledge and in faith, about the 'unseen', according to all that is written in the HOLY BIBLE. Even then for those HE loves, HE has allowed 'bits and pieces evidence'.

That is why JESUS calls to those who 'believe' to 'abide', even when the world continuously 'contradicts' as 'oppositions' to GOD, our 'written faith'.

May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST protect you and keep you saved.
 
MrGone said:
8 million.
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I wonder if there is a comprehensive list detailing land animals and flying creatures?, obviously there would be no need to detail aquatic life for obvious reasons, i hope the list doesn't show variation of a kind, for example, there would be no need to show all dog breeds, it could include wolf,domestic dog,coyote,fox,jackal. Has MrGone gone?
 
fredjames said:
GOD's Word is not 'based' on 'logic', that is of 'this world's pattern'.
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I disagree on that point, i believe God has purpose and logic and reason. I agree that His ways are higher than mankinds but there is without doubt purpose logic and reason in His creation, it's simply there to observe and science helps us better understand His creative mind, nature is awesome.
 
Hello brother, I know exactly how you are feeling and thinking.
I am 50yrs old, and because of an incident when i was 19, i spent the next 30yrs trying to find answers to the same questions you are and much much more. It consumed me everyday. All i really thought about and did my own investigations through computer, and tv shows and whatever i could, and until year and half ago, i had never found any answers i was looking for. I was not brought up in a Christian household, nor did i ever attend church except when i was a toddler, and then for weddings and funerals.
I blamed God for all the bad things in my life, none of the bible stories made any sense to me. I was so green that i never knew one was supposed to accept Christ. Never had heard of that.
Anyway, work with a wonderful man who is a Christian and shares his faith at work. Doesn't push it and you would never know he's a "christian' so to speak until he opens his mouth and shares.
I decided year and a half ago, after listening and shaking my head at some of the stuff as i was sure i knew more, that i would read the new testament so i had the knowledge to dispute whatever he and others were saying.
I told no one i was beginning to read the new testament. It wasn't very long before i felt my "self" being broken down. I got to a point very quickly where i realized how much love God really had for me, but knowing so very little about him and his word, i text messaged my Christian friend and simply asked him, "how can ever i be worthy of all that love", because i know who i am, what i think about, what I've done, and there was no sense of me even continuing on and getting to know the word better when how could i ever be accepted into heaven and all gods love.
My friend is an older gentleman in his 60's, was not Christian all his life, but since he accepted the lord he has read almost every bible out there and has a great wealth of knowledge.
His answer to my question of "how can i ever be worthy of all that love", was so very simple, he said to me " none of us are worthy, none of us could ever measure up, that is why Christ came "
I then accepted Christ, and am now on my 5th time through the new testament and every time i read it, i enter a higher spiritual level of understanding of Gods word as taught through Christ Jesus.
After reading it the first time, i found myself with no more questions, not one. 30yrs of self investigation, were all wiped away through gods word and Christ Jesus.

So, i would say to you, to please, just read the new testament every day, even a page a day and read it from front to back, don't skip from gospel to gospel. And when you are done, read it again and again, make it a part of your life.
Read it from front page to back page with an open heart and an open mind and then see how you feel.

And read only the new testament until you figure out your feelings. The old testament is a history lesson now, and not our covenant, our covenant is the new testament with Christ.



God bless
 
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oldhermit said:
This guy has been banned!!!
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Ah, man! When I go to the effort of listing that many things to read, I really hope the person will at least download, read, and start thinking for himself/herself. I have got to make a doc with that list, so I can just copy and paste.
 
atwhatcost said:
You must be very young. God did warn. Read the law.QUOTE]

I'm sorry, but i don't believe there is anywhere in the new testament that god warns to read the law. In fact if specifically states that the law is dead and grace through Christ jesus is alive. If you live by the law you will be judged by the law.
No one can obtain righteousness through the law, but only through faith in Christ.
If this quote you stated is from the old testament, that is one of the problems with Christians through man made religions. The old testament is not our covenant as stated in the new testament. It is more of a history lesson for us. Our covenant is the new covenant and the grace bestowed to us through the sacrifice and resurrection of Christ Jesus.

God bless
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I just will not read anything or watch a secular tv program about the Bible. It is not healthy to put doubts in your mind about any of it. If you choose to believe God and His Word, then stick with the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to teach you.

God can do things any way He wants however He wants. It does not need to make sense to us. We need to choose who we will believe.
 
MrGone said:
You see I am a very logical person. So when stories like Noah's Ark are presented to me, I tend over analyze them. I read this article:

The Impossible Voyage of Noah's Ark | NCSE

It makes perfect sense. I'm not trying to troll. I just can't reconcile certain beliefs with the physical possibilities of reality.
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God is not logical. His powers are beyond our comprehension as human beings. God loves us more than we can imagine. God is more powerful than we can imagine. Jesus cannot be brought down by logic, the miracles of God override humanity's logic.
 
MrGone said:
You see I am a very logical person. So when stories like Noah's Ark are presented to me, I tend over analyze them. I read this article:

The Impossible Voyage of Noah's Ark | NCSE

It makes perfect sense. I'm not trying to troll. I just can't reconcile certain beliefs with the physical possibilities of reality.
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If you're losing Faith you probably didn't have any in the first place. Start by believing in Jesus and then asking God to open your eyes to true reality, instead of the foolishness of carnal man.
 
The Op is banned, but like he said he is not trying to troll hehe, But he is banned, But I hope you seek God, Matthew 7: 7
 
kedge said:
I disagree on that point, i believe God has purpose and logic and reason. I agree that His ways are higher than mankinds but there is without doubt purpose logic and reason in His creation, it's simply there to observe and science helps us better understand His creative mind, nature is awesome.
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Yes, but based on 'basic' science and not science that has got out of control and out of hand by the 'disbelieve', even to denying the creator HIMSELF. the beginning of science in the Christian believe world, started out from the knowledge of the HOLY BIBLE itself. Then the exploration and research from the beginning was fine but later have got out of control and in the end they have obtained a 'debased mind' in 'modifying' creation itself to be otherwise, from which was proclaimed by GOD from the beginning, written in the book of Genesis.

Historically, in Europe Christianity, there was 'split' in the 'mind set' of 'believers', where some remain in only the knowledge faith of the HOLY BIBLE and some went on ahead of them and begin 'exploration' and 'research' and therefore established a world of 'commerce' and 'science' and 'parts' of Bible knowledge and therefore 'denying' the whole, lacked in 'faith'. And that has been the 'lukewarm' Christian foundation and is of this world, that we have and are in 'bondage' with until today. Yet time to time, we like each other or not, we meet and practice church like other pagan religion, so called worshiping in a beautiful building made by human hands, yet allowing GOD's Temple to be 'robbed', 'killed' and 'destroyed' and failing to 'perceive' the one who truly, 'came to give life and life in it's abundance', in 'sound doctrine knowledge' understanding conformed 'faith' foundation only.

Holy Biblical knowledge believed only in faith, and is in order, as to please GOD, worshiping HIM in 'spirit' and 'truth' knowledge faith is based on, 'what we do not see, yet believe'. As how JESUS allowed in order to clear Apostle Thomas's doubts, about HIS resurrection, is the same HE has allowed the basic form of science, in order to clear the doubts of HIS church. But also as a matter of fact, HE also said this to those who were with and Apostle Thomas that;

"Blessed are those who do not see and yet have faith/believe."

You disagree based on your own limited understanding as 'babes in CHRIST', still at 'milk' for now, and i understand and agree in basic exploration and research of science, as i was the same like you before in beginner's 'zeal'. But for what i now share is more 'Spiritual' knowledge and for 'spiritual discerning' and for 'meat' eating GOD's sheep.

Thank you and may GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
 
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