A Challenge to All Singles. (Why Are We So Eager to Get Married?)

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seoulsearch

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Hello Everyone:

I recently spent some time with a friend and her beautiful kids (her husband was at work, but he came home later that night and we all had dinner together as a family.) She is the same age as myself (we've known each other since we were 5 years old), has been married over 10 years, and her children are 5, 3, and 10 months old. They could be described as a "golden couple" to most-- they both grew up in Lutheran schools (as did I) so they were of equal faith, both have great careers (though they've been through some rough times with being laid off at different times this past year), are financially stable, have a close circle of friends and family, and get along well.

Because she and I have a long history, we talk with each other about any and every area of our lives... and I was able to ask her what married life (because she obviously has a bit of experience in this area) was REALLY like.

She said... there are a lot of times when she's alone with the kids because of their different work schedules. There are many times she feels she's raising them by herself. There are often times that she and her husband seem to miss each other as far as communication goes--no time to listen, no time to connect... and she said that their sex life had dwindled to maybe once every 3 months--and she has been the one who was trying to get his attention, but there was always too much too do, too many distractions... too much of life draining away any energy they may have to devote to each other.

On the drive home, I couldn't help but think to myself: "Gee, if I'm going to sit at home by myself and not have anyone to talk to but God and feel alone and not have sex... oh snap, I'm already doing that!!! So why on earth would I want to get married just to live that way, too?"

My question to you is this: what is your view of how you want your marriage to be someday? Hearts and roses and long walks on the beach and flowers and spontaneous romantic interludes at any given moment?

And my challenge to you is this: talk to people around you who are married or in a relationship and have been so for some time, then report back as to what you find. What do they love most about their marriages? What problems and struggles are they going through? Is their marriage anything like the way you hope yours is going to be? How many people actually have the marriage you dream of?

Marriage is a wonderful, blessed thing and a gift from God. But it can also be very lonely and painful (for those of you who haven't read my threads before--I used to be married--and he left for someone else.)

One of my goals in the time that God has granted for me to be single is to work my hardest at balancing dreams with REALITY, because reality is all too often a bucket of ice-cold water on your red-hot dreams of what you don't have and what you think it will be. I personally believe that many divorces are caused by dreams that were never met... and never can be, because reality was never taken into consideration.

If you aren't close enough to anyone around you who is married that you can talk to openly about their relationship, then I would still love to hear everyone's thoughts about how they hope marriage will be... and how it compares to what they see around them... and if you are convinced your marriage is going to be different and much better than those around you, share with us your ideas as to how you are going to make it that way.

Thanks in advance! :)
 
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kristinei

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hapi new year to all!!! i am one of the singles who's so eager to get married... i guess like in a game, i have completed level 2 of my life....
level 1: the day i was born - the day i finished school
level 2: the day i got my first job to present
level 3: ready & looking for a partner

GBusall
 
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ghreyz

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jajajja!!!
i was talking to my colleague about his marriage and he said with a wife is like knife. and the other one about his divorce.
well, I'm praying for relationship but in marriage not yet. Do we have an option just enjoy the courtship? jajajaja!!!
for me marriage is still a big word not yet there. (just honest)
 
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There are often times that she and her husband seem to miss each other as far as communication goes--no time to listen, no time to connect... and she said that their sex life had dwindled to maybe once every 3 months--and she has been the one who was trying to get his attention, but there was always too much too do, too many distractions...
OK, just from your description, I believe that the sections in bold are directly related. When either spouse in a marriage fails to pay the proper amount of attention to the other, it breeds feelings of fear and resentment in the heart. Everyone wants some form of recognition, and when communication breaks down, its not long before everything else does as well. Your friend and her husband need to make their marriage a priority, even over the children...because before they were parents, they were a married couple, and that relationship must come first. If there's anyone they could trust with the kids for a few days every week or month, it'd give them some much-needed time to work out whatever issues they are currently dealing with. If both are equally committed to God and each other, then sorting out the problems shouldn't be that complex.

As for their sex life, I think 3 months is quite a long time for either one in a marriage to go without it. If there were a physical disability or something like that, it would be understandable...but if not, then it seems to me that situation borders on deprivation, which is against the Bible. Also, since the average man needs a release every 72 hours or so (a medically-proven fact), if he isn't approaching his wife, then their may be something else going on. Not saying for sure, but just from your info it sounds like a possibility.

On the drive home, I couldn't help but think to myself: "Gee, if I'm going to sit at home by myself and not have anyone to talk to but God and feel alone and not have sex... oh snap, I'm already doing that!!! So why on earth would I want to get married just to live that way, too?"
Well, not every marriage is the same, that's for sure. As detailed above, I think your friend's marriage needs some serious "re-organizing", because I doubt their situation is typical....and if it is, its a shame. Kids or not, why is it that people will run after sex like crazy while single, but after marriage they get lazy, not even bothering to pursue the spouse God gave them for many reasons, that one included? It doesn't make any sense to me.

My question to you is this: what is your view of how you want your marriage to be someday? Hearts and roses and long walks on the beach and flowers and spontaneous romantic interludes at any given moment?
That'd definitely be nice for starters, though I realize every relationship has its highs and lows. My own experiences have taught me that unless both the man and woman are equally committed to both God and each other, everything goes to hell. I don't ever want to be around rampant disloyalty, distrust, or pain ever again.
 

seoulsearch

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Which is exactly the reason for my thread--all of us can sit back and analyze... "They should do this..." "They need to do that..." "They need to be more committed..."

So, I am asking for LIVING, BREATHING FACT in PROVEN, working marriages. Come and tell me about all the marriages you've found that don't just KNOW these principles, but are EXPERIENCING them and ACTIVELY PUTTING THEM INTO PRACTICE.

I love the discussion in the forums and I enjoy hearing everyone's ideas... thanks to all in advance for your contributions.

BUT, instead of stating what SHOULD be done, I would like to see some posters be able to report back: "I HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A MARRIED COUPLE WHO IS DOING ALL THE THINGS WE THINK THEY SHOULD BE DOING AND THIS IS HOW THEY'RE MAKING IT WORK AND THEY ARE HAPPY!"

All of us talking about what SHOULD be done can be just as bad as living in a fantasy that we all expect to become the reality--we all pretty much KNOW what needs to be done, we KNOW the Scriptures, and we KNOW how things "should" be...

So... who out there is ACTUALLY LIVING it in their own marriage... and is experiencing the happiness that all of us single people dream of?
 
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ghreyz

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honestly, i don't want to know what kind of marriage does the young couple had cause there in adjustment period. the best way to have ask those who stay marriage until they reach golden years. because of them i believe in marriage. People don't stick married because they want to have sex three times a day, yes indeed it is part and it is a need. and we all know we married a person not because of sex extravaganza it is because of the union. the best way to look at marriage not the idea of companionship neither a passion. It is about reminding us that LOVE does exist , and because of LOVE not lust or sharing bills or even sharing bed we exist. because God created you and soon partner to show the world and spread the news that Love is given and so your faith and hope will follow. So when we are weak there be a partner to encourage to be strong.
 
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jjones76

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I can certainly see both sides of this. As I have been divorced, and my situation sounds oh so similar to your friends - yes, when communication breaks down, EVERYTHING breaks down. But - I am blessed to know many married couples who have been married for many years. When I talk to them - the major thing they all have in common - THEY WORK ON IT!!!! One man told me that every single day he asks his wife "What can I do for you today that will make you happy". He said even when he is overwhelmed at work, or even sick, he will do whatever he can to do one single act of kindness for his wife, so she will know he values her and their marriage. Is this man the normal or a rare exception? I don't know - but I do know that you cannot just sit by in a marriage and not put forth effort, or it will ultimately fail.
 
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greatkraw

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you know my cat demands quality time from me every day

if I had a wife or children they would be entitled to the same
 
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buckeyegirl700

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My idea of marriage is flowers, romance, sex at least three times a week and I do not have to worry about initiating sex unless I want to. I also imagine marriage as having an intimate relationship with someone that you love and are connected to. I would want to talk to my husband about anything and everything.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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My idea of marriage is flowers, romance, sex at least three times a week and I do not have to worry about initiating sex unless I want to. I also imagine marriage as having an intimate relationship with someone that you love and are connected to. I would want to talk to my husband about anything and everything.

I think we all pretty much have this hope for marriage... and in reality, I think MOST people have this idea of what marriage is--that's why they get married in the first place.

But how many people are actually living it?

I sure hope you find it, Buckeyegirl... I hope we ALL do... but unfortunately, reality just doesn't seem to work that way.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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you know my cat demands quality time from me every day

if I had a wife or children they would be entitled to the same
So Greatkraw... is your relationship with your cat everything you thought it would be? Just kidding. :) Sounds like you got yourself involved with a diva!
 
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greatkraw

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So Greatkraw... is your relationship with your cat everything you thought it would be? Just kidding. :) Sounds like you got yourself involved with a diva!
incredibly demandin then gets bored quick

knows how to get my attention

teeth and claws or just walk onkeyboard and sit in front of screen
 
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dannychedid

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Maybe we feel we WANT to share...
 
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Hey greatcraw, my dog reqires lots of time too...
I give up
 
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jckcheaven

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Why not? There are times the eagerness is strong and there are times it doesn't even exist. What matter is how you respond to it... The eagerness thing...

you either let it pass. or you will make a pass.
 
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jckcheaven

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quote=jckcheaven;202329]Why not? There are times the eagerness is strong and there are times it doesn't even exist. What matter is how you respond to it... The eagerness thing...

There are many things too wonderful for me to think of, or even feel it. As long as I know that God leads me there, I'll be there.

I made a decision, I made my choice. I choose to face the consequence. I don't know what lies ahead. I don't even know if there is someone. I don't think God will mind a lot if i'm so eager or not. As long as it doesn't hurt Him, me or that someone or even those who are distant.

It was an issue way back old testaments history, it is now and the next generation. It is not only a challenge to All Singles but a cross to carry on.

The agony is real, the eagerness, the longing is real. We are real human. We are what God made us. We can't deny the existence of it. We are made but we had a choice and a freewill.
That's the exciting part. How to exercise our freewill until we learn how to be like Him.

God knows what he is doing. He knows exactly what we need and how to supply it... His training is no random work. God knows us better than we know ourselves. What we think may be our greatest need may not be at all. But God unerringly knows where we need to grow.

You either let it pass, or you will make a pass.
James 1:2-4 is so hard to apply but victorious when you do.
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Trina

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Hello Everyone:

I recently spent some time with a friend and her beautiful kids (her husband was at work, but he came home later that night and we all had dinner together as a family.) She is the same age as myself (we've known each other since we were 5 years old), has been married over 10 years, and her children are 5, 3, and 10 months old. They could be described as a "golden couple" to most-- they both grew up in Lutheran schools (as did I) so they were of equal faith, both have great careers (though they've been through some rough times with being laid off at different times this past year), are financially stable, have a close circle of friends and family, and get along well.

Because she and I have a long history, we talk with each other about any and every area of our lives... and I was able to ask her what married life (because she obviously has a bit of experience in this area) was REALLY like.

She said... there are a lot of times when she's alone with the kids because of their different work schedules. There are many times she feels she's raising them by herself. There are often times that she and her husband seem to miss each other as far as communication goes--no time to listen, no time to connect... and she said that their sex life had dwindled to maybe once every 3 months--and she has been the one who was trying to get his attention, but there was always too much too do, too many distractions... too much of life draining away any energy they may have to devote to each other.

On the drive home, I couldn't help but think to myself: "Gee, if I'm going to sit at home by myself and not have anyone to talk to but God and feel alone and not have sex... oh snap, I'm already doing that!!! So why on earth would I want to get married just to live that way, too?"

My question to you is this: what is your view of how you want your marriage to be someday? Hearts and roses and long walks on the beach and flowers and spontaneous romantic interludes at any given moment?

And my challenge to you is this: talk to people around you who are married or in a relationship and have been so for some time, then report back as to what you find. What do they love most about their marriages? What problems and struggles are they going through? Is their marriage anything like the way you hope yours is going to be? How many people actually have the marriage you dream of?

Marriage is a wonderful, blessed thing and a gift from God. But it can also be very lonely and painful (for those of you who haven't read my threads before--I used to be married--and he left for someone else.)

One of my goals in the time that God has granted for me to be single is to work my hardest at balancing dreams with REALITY, because reality is all too often a bucket of ice-cold water on your red-hot dreams of what you don't have and what you think it will be. I personally believe that many divorces are caused by dreams that were never met... and never can be, because reality was never taken into consideration.

If you aren't close enough to anyone around you who is married that you can talk to openly about their relationship, then I would still love to hear everyone's thoughts about how they hope marriage will be... and how it compares to what they see around them... and if you are convinced your marriage is going to be different and much better than those around you, share with us your ideas as to how you are going to make it that way.

Thanks in advance! :)
Hello,
Well see the thing is, marriage is not intended to be this way. What I mean is that as a wife you should not feel like she is doing everything herself, and she sure shouldn't have to try to get her husbands attention. As a husband and a wife, you should both be meeting eachothers needs and sexual needs.
Here are some scriptures about marriage:
1 Corinthians 7:1-5, Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not temp you because of your lack of self-control.
1 Peter 3:1- , Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hari and the wearing of gold jewlery and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master, You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
 

seoulsearch

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Hello,
Well see the thing is, marriage is not intended to be this way. What I mean is that as a wife you should not feel like she is doing everything herself, and she sure shouldn't have to try to get her husbands attention. As a husband and a wife, you should both be meeting eachothers needs and sexual needs.
Here are some scriptures about marriage:
1 Corinthians 7:1-5, Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not temp you because of your lack of self-control.
1 Peter 3:1- , Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hari and the wearing of gold jewlery and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master, You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

Right... marriage is not intended to be so many ways that, unfortunately, people find themselves in today.

Henceforth, the reason why I posted this thread: I would like for people to share their stories of people who are actually living in marriages the way it was intended. And if not, what have you learned that you plan to apply in your own marriage someday?

To me, Scriptural living is a lot like losing weight: we all know the basic principles of what it takes. If you want to lose weight, you have to eat healthy foods, eat smaller portions, and exercise. We all KNOW these principles, and they do not change. But how many people are actually implementing them? And if we all know what to do, why aren't we doing it? If we all KNOW what needs to be done, why are there still so many problems with excess weight and its associated health problems?

Likewise, most of us Christians KNOW what we need to do in order to have successful, Godly lives... and marriages. Many of us know the Scriptures, can quote them ourselves, and have read or heard them a hundred times over--we don't necessarily need to know what to do because we've studied it ourselves or heard about it or learned the principles practically to death... what we need to know is how to actually apply them to real life.

So how many people are actually able to successfully put them into practice within their marriages and live the victorious Christian marriage we HEAR about?

Those are the stories I'm interested in.
 
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People who aren't happy with singleness usually write long-winded posts about the subject.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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People who aren't happy with singleness usually write long-winded posts about the subject.
Heh. *breathes out a stream of LLLLOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGG wind*

But you know what? I'm getting to a place where I actually AM happy, and that's ALL God's doing! :D

(Hope this post is short enough for you, MS! ;))