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I'm a writer. I didn't really get into writing to get published until I hit my 50s. Then I discovered we're not supposed to put two spaces between sentences anymore. The hardest thing for me to stop doing is something I've been doing for decades. You really don't have to uncolor-code for me. I really did mean I like your posts when I can deal with them. (I don't hate them when I can't, I simply don't read them.) Two spaces is fine. I'm not a stickler. (Well, I am, but not on stuff like that.)
It's clear you paid attention in class. You keep your sentences short.
 
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Thank you for your kind words. When I finished High School, instead of going off to college, I read Encyclopedia Britanica 10 hours a day 6 days a week for nearly 3 years before specializing in English and American history and literature. It gave me a vocabulary and a distaste for verbosity.

Sixty hours per week for 3 years is a major time commitment; but that's how I got there.
Wowsers, Marc! You must have read the Encyclopedia Britannica many times over. I too loved reading encyclopedias, but that was in my primary school and high school years and I didn't read all of the entries, but I did read many.
 
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I'm a writer. I didn't really get into writing to get published until I hit my 50s. Then I discovered we're not supposed to put two spaces between sentences anymore. The hardest thing for me to stop doing is something I've been doing for decades. You really don't have to uncolor-code for me. I really did mean I like your posts when I can deal with them. (I don't hate them when I can't, I simply don't read them.) Two spaces is fine. I'm not a stickler. (Well, I am, but not on stuff like that.)

I can understand that everyone has personal preferences. Some people have a short attention span so it is difficult for them to read long posts regardless. Others might feel intimidated by all the information to read. To them looking at a lot of text is like contronting a monster. Others might be jealous that they cannot write like that, so they then smear poop on others who are capable of doing so. The fact of the matter is you cannot say it is wrong to read long posts or that it is wrong to quote a long article. God's Word is a super long post (Which was written by men but yet inspired by God). Jesus spoke for a really long time at the Sermon on the Mount and He was speaking what His Father was telling Him to say. So you cannot knock the truth composed in a long written work unless you are going to condemn yourself for reading God's Word. I mean, if you ever read a book or the Bible, you are reading a long post of words. Why should it be any different here? Have things changed just because we are talking to one another? Is the truth too much to handle? If we are talking about the Word of God, and the Spirit is leading us to write, can we really make the claim that it is us writing all by our own effort? Would not God be guiding us to quote Scripture and then have us explain it (expound upon it)?
 
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Let's see if this works.

Can't we just use very large fonts? (This site drives me nuts, because the type is getting into magnifying glass time. lol)

I really would type this big all the time, but I don't want to scare the super-vision folks away. lol

Now, this is something that deals with a reader's natural way of reading things. Some people like to read in color and or with a larger font. But they do not take their audience into consideration, though. Yes, I have a hard time reading people's posts if they are all one color. I also do not like quoting their post in color and will change it back to the original text sometimes. Now, I sometimes color passages in Scripture to distinguish between what I am saying and what God's Word is saying. Sort of like the red lettering in a person's Bible. I also will enlarge, bold, and color text really big if I feel they ignoring something in God's Word. Otherwise, they are just going to glaze past the verses in my post and continue to write what they believe. So I need to grab their attention with large bolded color words. This is only done on occasion and not as a matter of habit. Otherwise I realize they will become desensitized to such a thing.

I usually tend to glaze over or speed read a person's post if:

(1) They do not post Scripture or at least quote it (Even without providing any verse numbers).

(2) I have gone over the subject with them many times before and they are not really wanting to listen to what I have to say in God's Word.

(3) A super long wall of just Scripture with no explanation. No one here has done this, but a poster at TOL (Theology Online) was known for this.​

I will sometimes just flat out ignore a person's post if they are condescending and seek to attack and insult me instead of just discussing the topic at hand. They will many times say something like, "Jason, see your problem is that..." Then I tune them out. I will also just leave a thread if folks are all surrounding me like a pack of wolves trying to attack me rather than just politely and lovingly discussing the Scriptures, too. This has happened to me many times. People do not like discussing the truth of God's Word in what I have to say, and they do not know how to respond with God's Word so they then attack me and or try to make it personal. Which is childish and unChristian.
 
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Wowsers, Marc! You must have read the Encyclopedia Britannica many times over. I too loved reading encyclopedias, but that was in my primary school and high school years and I didn't read all of the entries, but I did read many.
When I discovered that I was unlikely to know ALL about ANYTHING i figured that the next best thing was to know a little about everything!
 

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It's clear you paid attention in class. You keep your sentences short.
At Paul's invitation, i try to follow him; but, he writes sentences up to fifteen verses long:)
 

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Let's see if this works.

Can't we just use very large fonts? (This site drives me nuts, because the type is getting into magnifying glass time. lol)

I really would type this big all the time, but I don't want to scare the super-vision folks away. lol
depending what browser you use you can vary the size of print at the top right hand corner of your screen using tools.
 
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depending what browser you use you can vary the size of print at the top right hand corner of your screen using tools.
I don't do anything but make my screen 125% or 150%. You really need to do nothing else.
 
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It's a real bother to me to end up having a discussion with a website via interpreter. Many long posts here are mostly if not entirely copy/paste, often with no credit given to actual author. Replies are then dealt with by more copy/paste instead of live interaction. That leaves serious gaps in communication due largely to the poster not able to supply new information, like when you challenge a statement.

When I suspect that's happening I copy a few lines in a posted paragraph, put that selection in quotes, and run a quick search on Google or Bing, etc. If it came word for word from an uncredited web page someone else authored, I've learned it's best to ignore that post, spend time on posts where someone has given their own personal thoughts.

Rather than burden a post with huge pastes, why not just supply a link and suggest going there to read a certain paragraph? Use your own words to inspire interest in checking your topic out.
 
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It's a real bother to me to end up having a discussion with a website via interpreter. Many long posts here are mostly if not entirely copy/paste, often with no credit given to actual author. Replies are then dealt with by more copy/paste instead of live interaction. That leaves serious gaps in communication due largely to the poster not able to supply new information, like when you challenge a statement.

When I suspect that's happening I copy a few lines in a posted paragraph, put that selection in quotes, and run a quick search on Google or Bing, etc. If it came word for word from an uncredited web page someone else authored, I've learned it's best to ignore that post, spend time on posts where someone has given their own personal thoughts.

Rather than burden a post with huge pastes, why not just supply a link and suggest going there to read a certain paragraph? Use your own words to inspire interest in checking your topic out.
I think this is the most reasonable way to go.
 
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It's a real bother to me to end up having a discussion with a website via interpreter. Many long posts here are mostly if not entirely copy/paste, often with no credit given to actual author. Replies are then dealt with by more copy/paste instead of live interaction. That leaves serious gaps in communication due largely to the poster not able to supply new information, like when you challenge a statement.

When I suspect that's happening I copy a few lines in a posted paragraph, put that selection in quotes, and run a quick search on Google or Bing, etc. If it came word for word from an uncredited web page someone else authored, I've learned it's best to ignore that post, spend time on posts where someone has given their own personal thoughts.
I always provide a source link if I use another person's work. I also do not see how truth changes between what I say versus what another believer says. Is the truth all of a sudden different because someone else said it? Besides, Jesus did the same thing. He spoke really long at the Sermon on the Mount and they were not His own words; For Jesus was speaking everything that His Father told Him to say. God's Word itself is written by men but yet inspired by another author.

Rather than burden a post with huge pastes, why not just supply a link and suggest going there to read a certain paragraph? Use your own words to inspire interest in checking your topic out.
Most of the time, people do not check out links unless it is something they are really interested in. I have many times have gotten responses on things that I quoted in an article. So I know this form of posting works. People do not like it because they are into thinking of writing like the world thinks of writing. If you do not provide your own original content then it is not worthy of them to read. As if truth changes if it is provided by another. Are we truly interested in truth? Or are we out to impress each other with how we write nice original (but yet not so original) posts. Does throwing a new coat of paint accross a post really change what is written? I say thee nay.
 
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I honestly have found on forums that the main objection (fear) to having a person post a link seems to be that the replier wants to only have to "match wits" with the other poster.... NOT with someone who has spent months, or even years, truly studying a subject. This makes it too hard for them to come out the winner in an argument.

And it really does seem THAT is the desire of many people, not actually getting to the truth of a matter.
 

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Thank you for your kind words. When I finished High School, instead of going off to college, I read Encyclopedia Britanica 10 hours a day 6 days a week for nearly 3 years before specializing in English and American history and literature. It gave me a vocabulary and a distaste for verbosity.

Sixty hours per week for 3 years is a major time commitment; but that's how I got there.
This is one of the strangest things I've ever heard,
but it probably only sounds strange to the modern ear.

After all, Thomas Jefferson taught himself law sitting at the kitchen table.

It's truly amazing what a disciplined person can do.
: )
 

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Thank you for your kind words. When I finished High School, instead of going off to college, I read Encyclopedia Britanica 10 hours a day 6 days a week for nearly 3 years before specializing in English and American history and literature. It gave me a vocabulary and a distaste for verbosity.

Sixty hours per week for 3 years is a major time commitment; but that's how I got there.

You remind me of my husband in a way - he has read through the dictionary many times. For awhile it was his favorite book! But I always beat him in Scrabble - and he soon tired of playing with me. I'm great on those 2 letter words. Unfortunately, he has trouble using those 10 letter words in Scrabble...
 

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I honestly have found on forums that the main objection (fear) to having a person post a link seems to be that the replier wants to only have to "match wits" with the other poster.... NOT with someone who has spent months, or even years, truly studying a subject. This makes it too hard for them to come out the winner in an argument.

And it really does seem THAT is the desire of many people, not actually getting to the truth of a matter.

I tend to cite properly attributed excerpts because people dislike links. It saves people having to wade through volumes of material to find a worthwhile tidbit; and reduces the threat of viruses.
 
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But I don't see how the cults, trolls and the confused will be able to get their point across. It takes a little scripture, but a lot of blather, to twist Bible truth into a pretzel.
 

MarcR

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You remind me of my husband in a way - he has read through the dictionary many times. For awhile it was his favorite book! But I always beat him in Scrabble - and he soon tired of playing with me. I'm great on those 2 letter words. Unfortunately, he has trouble using those 10 letter words in Scrabble...
One reason I prefer the encyclopedia to the dictionary is that words in context tend to build vocabulary and understanding better than words in isolation.
 
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On the other hand, I've tried to tell you guys before that this is why God gave you Page-Down and a vertical scroll bar, but none of you stiff-necked will listen.
 
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I tend to cite properly attributed excerpts because people dislike links. It saves people having to wade through volumes of material to find a worthwhile tidbit; and reduces the threat of viruses.
Yeah, there's a lot to be said for that. But along with a synopsis of an article, I also like to have the link to the whole thing. I'm a voracious reader, so I kind of dig that.