Someone please answer my question .

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JesusIsAll

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This is new, I always thought Jesus was the one saving souls....
It used to be that way, but then came along Buffalo Bill Hawkins. Just those souls who don't dye their Hebroo roots can be saved, now, about a half dozen people in the U.S.
 
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It suddenly occurred to me, given your overwhelming scholastic aptitude and clarity, could you perhaps better use your time? Just think. You could be translating the King James into Hebrew and Greek, give the world, say, the Codex Makahiyaticus. I bet you could reverse engineer better than a Jap! This could be your most important work, and, even more importantly, reap the blessings of ending this thread.

You're welcome, in advance.

lol, um, no, the KJV Holy Bible has already been translated

into languages throughout the world .


The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated book of all time !


Thanks for the Thought



 
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This is new, I always thought Jesus was the one saving souls....

I think we all understand the work of the Spirit of God

in relationship to Holy Scripture .


KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.







 

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It suddenly occurred to me, given your overwhelming scholastic aptitude and clarity, could you perhaps better use your time? Just think. You could be translating the King James into Hebrew and Greek, give the world, say, the Codex Makahiyaticus. I bet you could reverse engineer better than a Jap! This could be your most important work, and, even more importantly, reap the blessings of ending this thread.

You're welcome, in advance.
And I'm betting he can't tell a Greek verb from and adjective.
 
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yes, great thought, but unless Jesus comes to you personally

and teaches you the Book of the Revelation of Jesus

you'll probably need a Holy Bible








Careful there SHINING ONE, He did pay me a Visit here back in 1994, Feb 3 to be exact, and Yes I've got more worn out Bibles and Concordance's than you probably do... LOLZ..... The Testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophesy! indeed.. With the Living Word, the Spirit of Christ guiding you, its nothing but letters and words, making men in religion puffed up in there mind and head.. splitting christ up into divsions, commending themselves and measuring themselves by others..... Not Only Did He visit me but His Angel also paid me a visit here last winter.. He's here for War, for the LORD is a Man of War!!!!! indeed...-------------------->

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Indeed, and I do not believe a PhD with 21 years of formal experience in biblical textual criticism would make such statements or communicate in such a juvenile manner.

The Majority Text is the form found in the largest number of surviving manuscripts, though not in the oldest. It differentiates from the Textus Receptus Greek Text; however, while the Majority Text underlies the Textus Receptus Greek text used for most of the original Reformation-era translations of the New Testament into vernacular languages what our "expert" omitted is that our modern translations primarily use Eclectic editions that conform more often to the Alexandrian text-type.

Read 'The Cambridge History of the Bible' Volumes 1, Part III: The Old Testament Text and Part IV: The New Testament Text. As Part IV states:

"All modern hand editions rest upon the work of the great scholars of the nineteenth century, who all agreed in preferring a text which is related in some measure to the exercise of critical acumen amongst the Christian scholars of Alexandria."

Furthermore, obviously the King James version is based on the Textus Receptus which is based mainly on late manuscripts of the Byzantine text-type not the Alexandrian text. As you know, this is all very elementary.

But for our general audience, what's as important to understand is that no textual variant alters any essential in Christendom.


Really? Perhaps you can provide us with statistical data that supports such an outlandish claim. Which MSS do not?
 
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You know, it seems to me that there have been a considerable number of phonies masquerading as believers on Christian forums the last 6 months or so...I have seen this on other forums...the talk is the same.

They seem to know something about the Bible, but not as a believer and go about trying to get Christians to respond in a defensive manner and then they jump all over them

The wording is also not English as one who is familar with the language...I probably should not post what I think may actually be going on, but these are not innocent people nor are they simply trolls

Anyway, that is what I think
 
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Indeed, and I do not believe a PhD with 21 years of formal experience in biblical textual criticism would make such statements or communicate in such a juvenile manner.

The Majority Text is the form found in the largest number of surviving manuscripts, though not in the oldest. It differentiates from the Textus Receptus Greek Text; however, while the Majority Text underlies the Textus Receptus Greek text used for most of the original Reformation-era translations of the New Testament into vernacular languages what our "expert" omitted is that our modern translations primarily use Eclectic editions that conform more often to the Alexandrian text-type.

Read 'The Cambridge History of the Bible' Volumes 1, Part III: The Old Testament Text and Part IV: The New Testament Text. As Part IV states:

"All modern hand editions rest upon the work of the great scholars of the nineteenth century, who all agreed in preferring a text which is related in some measure to the exercise of critical acumen amongst the Christian scholars of Alexandria."

Furthermore, obviously the King James version is based on the Textus Receptus which is based mainly on late manuscripts of the Byzantine text-type not the Alexandrian text. As you know, this is all very elementary.

But for our general audience, what's as important to understand is that no textual variant alters any essential in Christendom.
That's Not True

The N.T. manuscripts of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible


predate the existing 45 Alexandrian manuscripts


and the reconstructed Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus.

Be sincere, have you examined the Codex Vaticanus ?

I'm just asking .









 

oldhermit

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Indeed, and I do not believe a PhD with 21 years of formal experience in biblical textual criticism would make such statements or communicate in such a juvenile manner.

The Majority Text is the form found in the largest number of surviving manuscripts, though not in the oldest. It differentiates from the Textus Receptus Greek Text; however, while the Majority Text underlies the Textus Receptus Greek text used for most of the original Reformation-era translations of the New Testament into vernacular languages what our "expert" omitted is that our modern translations primarily use Eclectic editions that conform more often to the Alexandrian text-type.

Read 'The Cambridge History of the Bible' Volumes 1, Part III: The Old Testament Text and Part IV: The New Testament Text. As Part IV states:

"All modern hand editions rest upon the work of the great scholars of the nineteenth century, who all agreed in preferring a text which is related in some measure to the exercise of critical acumen amongst the Christian scholars of Alexandria."

Furthermore, obviously the King James version is based on the Textus Receptus which is based mainly on late manuscripts of the Byzantine text-type not the Alexandrian text. As you know, this is all very elementary.

But for our general audience, what's as important to understand is that no textual variant alters any essential in Christendom.
Yes. You summed that up rather succinctly. The KJV is roots in the Erasmus text and none of the MSS of that text are earlier than the 10th, possibly the 9th century, which is still considered somewhat early. But one of the factors that led virtually every scholar of that period to reject the Erasmus text (and please correct me if I am wrong) was the questionable reliability of those particular MSS not necessarily the Byzantine text itself.
 
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You know, it seems to me that there have been a considerable number of phonies masquerading as believers on Christian forums the last 6 months or so...I have seen this on other forums...the talk is the same.

They seem to know something about the Bible, but not as a believer and go about trying to get Christians to respond in a defensive manner and then they jump all over them

The wording is also not English as one who is familar with the language...I probably should not post what I think may actually be going on, but these are not innocent people nor are they simply trolls

Anyway, that is what I think

nice thought ember



 

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I think we all understand the work of the Spirit of God

in relationship to Holy Scripture .


KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.







Would you be willing to explain what you think about Romans 1:20?
 
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Yes. You summed that up rather succinctly. The KJV is roots in the Erasmus text and none of the MSS of that text are earlier than the 10th, possibly the 9th century, which is still considered somewhat early. But one of the factors that led virtually every scholar of that period to reject the Erasmus text (and please correct me if I am wrong) was the questionable reliability of those particular MSS not necessarily the Byzantine text itself.

ok, you're wrong



 

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People!! The report button is your friend.

Someone pointed out the other day, this so-called "troll" is probably a bot. That is an artifically generated response program, that inserts answers which are deemed appropriate to the program. That is why most of Makahiya's responses are inappropriate and don't make sense.

This "person" is neither troll nor person, but a kind of spam to tie up conversation, and confuse people. He is using all kinds of unknown theories and terms, claiming to be a post doc (when he can't even respond properly to simple posts)

So use you head! He has insulted some of our best and kindest members. Go back, find the posts and report him. Over and over and over.

We don't need this kind of absolute nonsense here. It is hard enough discussing the actual Bible, without having a disturber that isn't even a real person on here!

Take no prisoners. Report him!
 

oldhermit

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People!! The report button is your friend.

Someone pointed out the other day, this so-called "troll" is probably a bot. That is an artifically generated response program, that inserts answers which are deemed appropriate to the program. That is why most of Makahiya's responses are inappropriate and don't make sense.

This "person" is neither troll nor person, but a kind of spam to tie up conversation, and confuse people. He is using all kinds of unknown theories and terms, claiming to be a post doc (when he can't even respond properly to simple posts)

So use you head! He has insulted some of our best and kindest members. Go back, find the posts and report him. Over and over and over.

We don't need this kind of absolute nonsense here. It is hard enough discussing the actual Bible, without having a disturber that isn't even a real person on here!

Take no prisoners. Report him!
He's been reported by some. I reported him myself. I am supprised he is still here.
 
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Would you be willing to explain what you think about Romans 1:20?

Not really .

I just finished an academic paper on the Theory of Everything .

I contrasted academic theology with the statements

of the infinite universe theoretical physicists,

including singularity and parallel universes,

the big rip theory, oscillation theory, six day theory,

gap theory, big bang evolution theory and creation evolution theory .


The thesis and ante-thesis of the origin of everything are creation

(by an eternal God ) and pantheism (everything is eternal

or everything came from nothing).








 
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Not really .

I just finished an academic paper on the Theory of Everything .

I contrasted academic theology with the statements

of the infinite universe theoretical physicists,

including singularity and parallel universes,

the big rip theory, oscillation theory, six day theory,

gap theory, big bang evolution theory and creation evolution theory .


The thesis and ante-thesis of the origin of everything are creation

(by an eternal God ) and pantheism (everything is eternal

or everything came from nothing).








LOTS OF THEORIES there 'shining one'.. but do.... YE KNOW HIM?' thats all that will COUNT when you stand before Him, the Risen Resurrected Christ, all the doctorates, the fancy papers with mans stamp of approval on it, the degrees, etc.. all those will MEAN nothing, if ye DONT KNOW HIM, these will be the most terrifying words the person will hear when they are standing there in Front of the Risen Christ, depart from me , I never knew you' these who were under the impression..there thesis's, doctorates, degrees were the 'ticket' .... do you know Him?
 
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He's been reported by some. I reported him myself. I am supprised he is still here.
I don't come into your discussions

and ask people to push the report button.

I don't even go into your thread !


If you're such a freedom loving American


and such a good tolerant Christian,

why don't you just stop reading my statements ?