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Genesis 1:1says that God created the heaven and earth. A very broad statement. Verse 2 says the earth was formless. It obviously was there for a while before the creation process started.

We do not know how long the days of creation were for Genesis 2:4 places them together as one day.
 
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Genesis 1:1says that God created the heaven and earth. A very broad statement. Verse 2 says the earth was formless. It obviously was there for a while before the creation process started.

We do not know how long the days of creation were for Genesis 2:4 places them together as one day.
God created all things in an instant on each of 6 days - Jesus as God instantly created wine and loaves and fishes etc - wincam
 
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how long did it take yahshua to make the best grapejuice/wine(hebrew grapejuice likely ) out of WATER?

by faith, everything in scripture indicates/says/tells of yahweh creating everything in six days and resting on the seventh day.

the language it was written in verifies this. as does everything yahweh created, and as does everyone who places their HOPE IN HIM and not in the flesh.
 
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Simple God first created plasma which is a state of matter. Plasma can give off light. IE Lightning,neon etc. The sun itself is made of gas and plasma. :)
See now? That may be a good guess, but it is a guess.

I like my guess better. God is light, so why couldn't God be that light of the first day?

Still a guess, but I like we are fine guessing, as long as we don't go to far and claim it's gospel.

(It's also helpful to find out if I like your guess. I don't quite get what plasma is, so I accept your guess, but can't tell you if I like it or not. lol)
 
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but to God one day is a thousand years and a thousand years is one day. time does not exist in God's realm of eternity.

God bless
Nope. Sorry. Doesn't work. He defined "day" in Genesis 1, so his definition goes with Genesis. Besides, when God starts comparing a day to a thousand years, he uses the word "as," which goes straight to that's a simile.
 
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Your confusing a literal time frame which the parameters are defined with a METAPHOR which is NOT literal.

Metaphor - Merriam Webster




noun met·a·phor \ˈme-tə-ˌfȯr also -fər\
: a word or phrase for one thing that is used to refer to another thing in order to show or suggest that they are similar
: an object, activity, or idea that is used as a symbol of something else

Yes, irregardless" is a word.
No, that doesn't mean you should use it. »



Full Definition of METAPHOR

1
: a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money); broadly : figurative language — compare simile

2
: an object, activity, or idea treated as a metaphor :


The context of the passage you are using shows that it is a metaphor and NOT tobetaken LITERALLY.

2 Peter 3

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. [SUP]4 [/SUP]They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. [SUP]6 [/SUP]By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. [SUP]7 [/SUP]By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. [SUP]9 [/SUP]The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Shoot! Metaphor. I really have to stop being lazy and look up the two words to get the right word. Metaphor! Metaphor! (Not simile.)
 
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Actually it is a simile...is as..it does not say 'is'.

MERRIAM WEBSTER:

sim·i·le\ˈsi-mə-(ˌ)lē\
noun
grammar : a phrase that uses the words 'like' or 'as' to describe someone or something by comparing it with someone or something else that is similar
Full Definition
: a figure of speech comparing two unlike things that is often introduced by like or as (as in cheeks like roses) — compare metaphor
Origin: Middle English, from Latin, comparison, from neuter of similis.
First use: 14th century.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

(Note to self: Stop sounding like you understand grammarly things when you can't even remember the difference between a simile and a metaphor.)

Carry on. Let's just pretend I never opened my mouth on this subject. lol
 
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See now? That may be a good guess, but it is a guess.

I like my guess better. God is light, so why couldn't God be that light of the first day?

Still a guess, but I like we are fine guessing, as long as we don't go to far and claim it's gospel.

(It's also helpful to find out if I like your guess. I don't quite get what plasma is, so I accept your guess, but can't tell you if I like it or not. lol)
Plasma is the one of the four states of matter. When God spoke it created sound waves,sounds waves are a form of energy which became matter and light. God is the source of the light. (It's my opinion,it's not spelled out in scripture,and I could be wrong on this,but at this point this is what I believe) :)
 
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How can earth's rotation be established on day one. Heaven and earth weren't even separated til day two, (the waters above, below), and the earth was formed out of the waters below. So what you are saying doesn't make sense. Proverbs 8:22 says what was made on day one, it literally says it was brought forth as the first of his works. Paul says we belong to the day, and that doesn't mean sun light or a established period of time. The light belongs to the day, that light is the life of men, and the darkness has not understood it....Proverbs 8:22 is the answer.
The Spirit circled the earth when it was void and formless. It had to be something if he's circling it.
 
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Proverbs 8

Wisdom's Call

1*Does not wisdom call out?*

22*"The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...

Are you denying scripture says it was brought forth as the first of his works here? I just copied and pasted and read it again just to be sure.

It distinctly says the first of his works. And on what day did God start working? Is wisdom light? Yes. I don't understand what is so hard to see.
For someone who also admits you don't get it all either, you sure are pushing your guess. Your guess. I see the merits of it. (It doesn't have plasma, so I don't have to figure out what plasma is to know if I see the merits or not. lol) It's still just a guess. Simply because you can use scripture about something else to fill a void we don't know doesn't mean it really fills that void.

We really don't know. So let's just skip "My guess is right or else you don't believe scripture." That's too far.
 
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Hmm... Okay, I suppose you're right. I don't know Hebrew.
It's an ancient language the Israelites spoke. There, now you know it. lol (I'm just kidding around, but that's the closest I get to knowing Hebrew.)
 
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The use of the word light is not always metaphorical in scripture. In fact is used as a metaphor far fewer time than it is used in a literal sense.
Okay. How did you learn that? (If you remember.) I'm picturing you counting words in a concordance and then checking context with a tally sheet. :confused:

Meanwhile, the only word counts I remember are Nephilim and caught-up (rapture), but count them all up and you still have fingers left over. I only remember very short word studies. lol
 

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...Jesus as God instantly created wine and loaves and fishes etc..
NOT SO!

During His earthly ministry, the Lord Jesus said that His Father did the works (signs, wonders and miracles), NOT Himself! John 5v19,36, 14v10

The Lord Jesus did the miracles by faith in His Father and the power of the Holy Spirit upon Him! John 3v34, 6v57
 
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Abraham, Sarah and hagar, they can be taken figuratively. The barren woman, she can be taken figuratuvely, she is our mother. The patables, they can be taken figuratively. Don't muzzle an ox while he's treading grain, Paul said the law could be taken figuratively, you are saying light in the bible can be taken fuliguratively. Yet you say, in this one instance light can't be taken figuratively. I don't get that. It can be taken figuratively to me, and through scripture make complete sense sir. That's the only way it does make sense. God's glory shone bofore day one.
And this is exactly what happens when you make the whole Bible figurative. It's hard to tell reality from legends taught.
 
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Thank you valiant for this revelation. Truly a mystery has been revealed to us. Thank you Lord.

God bless
Could you do me a favor? The next time you just want validation for some theory you're going to float whether it's true or not, how about a heads up? That way we can choose to go with your whim or ignore you all together, instead of wasting time thinking we're answering a genuine question.

This wasn't revelation. This was someone agreeing with what you thought all along and had no plans to find out if it was true or not.

And, since what is most important to you is your opinion above and beyond fact or God, leave God out of it all together, since you already did. He really doesn't bless someone simply because he or she agrees with you.
 

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Okay. How did you learn that? (If you remember.) I'm picturing you counting words in a concordance and then checking context with a tally sheet. :confused:

Meanwhile, the only word counts I remember are Nephilim and caught-up (rapture), but count them all up and you still have fingers left over. I only remember very short word studies. lol
Well, I reviewed the use of Hebrew word for light again and in the OT it is used as metaphor about as often as it is in the literal sense, particularly in the Psalms. In the NT φῶς - light is use much more often as metaphor than in the literal sense and when as a metaphor it is almost always a synonym for either truth or divine character.
 
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Plasma is the one of the four states of matter. When God spoke it created sound waves,sounds waves are a form of energy which became matter and light. God is the source of the light. (It's my opinion,it's not spelled out in scripture,and I could be wrong on this,but at this point this is what I believe) :)
Forgive me. I loved science, but I was never good at it.

Three states of matter I remember: liquid, gas, solid. I can see all three with water. Where does plasma fit in? It's sound? (Probably not, but that's as close to what I'm seeing in your answer. lol)
 
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Well, I reviewed the use of Hebrew word for light again and in the OT it is used as metaphor about as often as it is in the literal sense, particularly in the Psalms. In the NT φῶς - light is use much more often as metaphor than in the literal sense and when as a metaphor it is almost always a synonym for either truth or divine character.
​I'm impressed by your memory skills.
 

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Forgive me. I loved science, but I was never good at it.

Three states of matter I remember: liquid, gas, solid. I can see all three with water. Where does plasma fit in? It's sound? (Probably not, but that's as close to what I'm seeing in your answer. lol)
"Plasma is a phase of matter distinct from solids, liquids, and gases. It is the most abundant phase of matter in the universe; both stars and interstellar dust consist of it. Although it is its own phase of matter, it is often referred to as an ionized gas. This is similar to a normal gas, except that electrons have been stripped from their respective nucleons and float freely within the material. Even if only 1% of the atoms have lost their electrons, a gas will display plasma-like behavior." What Is Plasma? (with pictures)