Why hasn't Christ come yet?

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no. that's your sin and the sin of the whole world --- as in the days of noah - everyone thinking whatever they wanted to think .... doing whatever they thought was right in their own eyes.... no repentance, no obedience, no forgiveness for their sins....

the only ones saved are those who surrender to GOD and agree with HIM and HIS WORD.

as the BIBLE / GOD'S WORD clearly says.

Why are you so angry Jeff. Where's the love in your hart. Did you lose it some where?
 
Mt 24:1-17
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Fulfilled 70 A.D.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?


4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Since 1941A.D. there have been more wars and more people killed by wars than in all of prior history.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.


For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom

World: WWII, Korea, Vietnam

Israel: 1948-49, 1967-68 Jerusalem taken time of the Gentiles fulfilled

Civil War/'Ethnic cleansing':
Spain, Iran, Ethiopia, Sudan, Kenya, Tansania, Nigeria, Congo, Bosnia, Indonesia, Java, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Haiti, Turkistan, ISIS, TALIBAN, Burma, Somalia, Chile


Wars of conquest/ domination:

China/ Mongolia, China/Tibet, Russia/ Afghanistan, Russia/Georgia, Russia/Uzbekistan, Iraq/Kurdistan, Iraq/Iran, Iraq/Kuait, US/Haiti,
US, Britain/Falkland Islands, US, Britain/Iraq (2), Bosnia/Herzagovenia


and there shall be famines

Worldwide droughts and flooding even in nations that usually have surplus to export



and pestilences

AIDS, Ebola, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Mad Cow Disease, etc.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

North Korea, China, Burma, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, ISIS

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Joseph Smith, Charles Russel, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Sun Moon, etc.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

The Church is in decline not only in this country; but in Europe and many other parts of the World.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


The altar for the third temple is built; and a red heiffer is available to dedicate it.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
KJV


Lk 21:14-24
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.


17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (1968 A.D.)
KJV


Islam.
6 Day War.


It won't get any "fuller" :)
Tis the Season.
 
surely you, or reborn, or michael, can learn enough english this week to read chapter six until you get it.

it is in english.. . (true, it is better in hebrew and in arabic, and maybe in greek.... ) but all you need is english.

if you can't get it, you three posting on an english forum, then i certainly won't be able to help you.
One of the ugliest things to see is a person that presents themselves as a christian and being a person too proud to admit they are in error. The bible says no such thing, you are wrong, and you are adding words to the bible.
Do you need me to bring you scripture showing what God says about those that add to, or take away from, His word?

I can do it. Book, chapter, and verse.
 
as you take the side of heresy, contrary to and opposed to GOD'S WORD,

it is not me nor anything i say or do or feel (which you don't know nor recognize, btw)
that
ought to concern you.

yahweh guards HIS WORD HIMSELF, and HIS judgment , clearly from HIS WORD, is

the only thing that ought to take your time.

it is what HE SAYS that matters. and you've missed it entirely, like the rcc heresy has.

and you don't appear to be seeking GOD nor seeking TRUTH at all. you've posted a lot contrary to HIM,

and harmful to his people/ to the souls of those seeking TRUTH and seeking HIS KINGDOM.

seek HIM, and see what is the TRUTH, because no one else can help you.


Why are you so angry Jeff. Where's the love in your hart. Did you lose it some where?
 
One of the ugliest things to see is a person that presents themselves as a christian and being a person too proud to admit they are in error. The bible says no such thing, you are wrong, and you are adding words to the bible.
Do you need me to bring you scripture showing what God says about those that add to, or take away from, His word?

I can do it. Book, chapter, and verse.

you've been wrong in most of your posts so far.... sorry if you don't care. God Himself won't change you.
 
One of the ugliest things to see is a person that presents themselves as a christian and being a person too proud to admit they are in error. The bible says no such thing, you are wrong, and you are adding words to the bible.
Do you need me to bring you scripture showing what God says about those that add to, or take away from, His word?

I can do it. Book, chapter, and verse.
I'm reading a lot of scriptor right here. Yes I am making lots of mistakes. I am learning from those mistakes. All of you have been very helpful. I am very grateful. I'm sure I will make more mistakes in the future. I trust you and others to point them out. My love for God, Jesus, the Holly Spirit , and my fellow mankind is real and steadfast. I hope this also shows in my posts as clearly as my ignorance surely does. Thank you!!!
 
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you've been wrong in most of your posts so far.... sorry if you don't care. God Himself won't change you.

You've been pointed out by others as someone who miss quoted the Bible. Sorry your not one of the people on here I trust to teach me. Your also very angry. I don't trust someone who is so angry. I think I've done more to help you then you have to help me and I don't even know much of the Bible. Maybe you should take a better look at who you are before you go condemning anyone else. I still love you but I really don't trust you.
 
by our love one for another the world will know that the Father and Son are one, guess that is pretty much in the toilet.

to realize that we live in disobedience to the prayer Jesus prayed to his Father ( John 17) should make us all fear for our own salvation.

God have mercy on all our souls , repent and obey Christ our Lord, unless you desire to here from Jesus: " depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you."
 
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I think you need to read a little more. I didn't know all that though. There are extremist in every religion. For the most part these religions are very passive.


I DO read, the problem is, that you, with your dsylexia do not. Here is something for you to read on the topic of how it is NOT just a few extremists, but rather legislated by law in India.

"Anti-conversion legislation in India refers to the laws enacted by several Indian states which prohibit Hindus from converting to Christianity. Christianity is the third largest religion in India with Hinduism being the largest and Islam being the second largest religion.[SUP][1][/SUP]More than 2% of the population in the country are Christians.[SUP][2][/SUP] Christianity is the majority religion in the states of Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya where Christians constitute 90.02%, 87% and 70.3% of the states' populations respectively.Hindu fundamentalists claim Christian missionaries forcefully convert Hindus to Christianity.[SUP][3][/SUP] This belief is described as false propaganda campaign orchestrated by Hindu nationalist organizations in India.[SUP][2][/SUP] The stated purpose of the anti-conversion laws are to prohibit religious conversions allegedly made by "force", "fraud" or "allurement". This view is rejected by Christians and rights groups.[SUP][3][/SUP] In fact, there are incidents where churches are torched and Christian schools are ransacked by Hindu extremists.[SUP][2][/SUP] Christians stated that the laws are enacted actually for the purpose of obstructing conversion generally[SUP][3][/SUP] and to hold onto a Hindu cultural hegemony.[SUP][2][/SUP] There is also allegation that Hindu nationalists harass Christian workers by imprisoning them with false accusations.[SUP][3][/SUP] Hindu extremist organizations in the country want India to become a theocratic Hindu state.[SUP][2][/SUP] The anti-conversion laws favour Hinduism over other religions.[SUP][4]"
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The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a Hindu nationalist political party in India, passed an anti-conversion law in the state of Gujarat in 2003. Christian community in the state feared that Hindu extremists will misuse this law by making false accusations against Christian missionaries. A report in an Indian newspaper described the law "From now on, anyone wishing to convert will have to tell the government why they were doing it and for how long they had been following the religion which they were renouncing, failing which, they will be declared offenders and prosecuted under criminal laws". Hindu nationalist organizations prosecuted Muslims and Christians and killed more than 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat in 2002. Due to this law, it becomes mandatory for the clergy who want to convert a person from one religion to another to obtain permission of the district magistrate. It also becomes mandatory for the clergy to provide personal information of the person whom (s)he wants to convert including her/his marital status, occupation and income.[SUP][3][/SUP] The Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) expressed concern over this law in which "force", "fraudulent means" and "allurement" are very loosely defined.[SUP][6][/SUP] Alexa Papadouris, Advocacy Director of the Christian Solidarity Worldwide, said,[SUP][6][/SUP]

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[TD]This law is extremely intrusive and entirely at odds with India’s avowed respect for human rights, including the right to freedom of religion. It allows for substantial interference into the private process of an individual’s conversion by a state government known for its extremist Hindu nationalist credentials. The requirement to explain the reasons for conversion to potential hostile officials is a significant block to religious freedom, and the authority given to District Magistrates to deny permission for a conversion ‘ceremony’ is completely unacceptable. It is also a nonsense to demand the ‘time and date’ of a person’s conversion, which is a matter of their private conscience. We call upon the government of Gujarat to immediately repeal this law, and we call upon the international community to condemn what is India’s worst anti-conversion law yet.[/TD]
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Within May 2008, five states in India enacted anti-conversion laws. These are:[SUP][3][/SUP]

Apart from these five states, there are also plans to implement anti-conversion laws in two more states: Arunachal Pradesh and Rajasthan.[SUP][3][/SUP] Throughout the country, violent anti-Christian and anti-conversion campaigns by Hindu extremists continue. Joseph Augustine Charanakunnel, Archbishop of Raipur, the capital of the Indian state Chattisgarh, said "Hindu fundamentalists and local media accuse missionaries of forcing people to convert to Christianity. They carry out cheap anti-conversion propaganda, staging re-conversion ceremonies in which people are 'return' to Hinduism from Christianity. ... Hindu fundamentalists pick on Tribals because they are an easy target. For this reason, the Church has the duty of protecting these helpless people".[SUP][7]

Anti-conversion legislation in India - Conservapedia

But really the central issue here is NOT what Hindus and Buddhists are doing. I only brought it up because you did, and it is obvious that you have never met a HIndu or Buddhist, let alone taken a World Religions course.

What really matters is what Jesus says about following him. There is only one way - the narrow road. Universalism is a lie straight from the devil. Only Jesus saves his people from their sins. Not a religion, but a geniune surrender to Christ, the one who calls us from the dead.


"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Cor. 5:17-21

One way - Jesus alone!
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I DO read, the problem is, that you, with your dsylexia do not. Here is something for you to read on the topic of how it is NOT just a few extremists, but rather legislated by law in India.

"Anti-conversion legislation in India refers to the laws enacted by several Indian states which prohibit Hindus from converting to Christianity. Christianity is the third largest religion in India with Hinduism being the largest and Islam being the second largest religion.[SUP][1][/SUP]More than 2% of the population in the country are Christians.[SUP][2][/SUP] Christianity is the majority religion in the states of Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya where Christians constitute 90.02%, 87% and 70.3% of the states' populations respectively.Hindu fundamentalists claim Christian missionaries forcefully convert Hindus to Christianity.[SUP][3][/SUP] This belief is described as false propaganda campaign orchestrated by Hindu nationalist organizations in India.[SUP][2][/SUP] The stated purpose of the anti-conversion laws are to prohibit religious conversions allegedly made by "force", "fraud" or "allurement". This view is rejected by Christians and rights groups.[SUP][3][/SUP] In fact, there are incidents where churches are torched and Christian schools are ransacked by Hindu extremists.[SUP][2][/SUP] Christians stated that the laws are enacted actually for the purpose of obstructing conversion generally[SUP][3][/SUP] and to hold onto a Hindu cultural hegemony.[SUP][2][/SUP] There is also allegation that Hindu nationalists harass Christian workers by imprisoning them with false accusations.[SUP][3][/SUP] Hindu extremist organizations in the country want India to become a theocratic Hindu state.[SUP][2][/SUP] The anti-conversion laws favour Hinduism over other religions.[SUP][4]"
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The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a Hindu nationalist political party in India, passed an anti-conversion law in the state of Gujarat in 2003. Christian community in the state feared that Hindu extremists will misuse this law by making false accusations against Christian missionaries. A report in an Indian newspaper described the law "From now on, anyone wishing to convert will have to tell the government why they were doing it and for how long they had been following the religion which they were renouncing, failing which, they will be declared offenders and prosecuted under criminal laws". Hindu nationalist organizations prosecuted Muslims and Christians and killed more than 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat in 2002. Due to this law, it becomes mandatory for the clergy who want to convert a person from one religion to another to obtain permission of the district magistrate. It also becomes mandatory for the clergy to provide personal information of the person whom (s)he wants to convert including her/his marital status, occupation and income.[SUP][3][/SUP] The Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) expressed concern over this law in which "force", "fraudulent means" and "allurement" are very loosely defined.[SUP][6][/SUP] Alexa Papadouris, Advocacy Director of the Christian Solidarity Worldwide, said,[SUP][6][/SUP]

[TABLE="class: cquote"]
[TR]
[TD]“[/TD]
[TD]This law is extremely intrusive and entirely at odds with India’s avowed respect for human rights, including the right to freedom of religion. It allows for substantial interference into the private process of an individual’s conversion by a state government known for its extremist Hindu nationalist credentials. The requirement to explain the reasons for conversion to potential hostile officials is a significant block to religious freedom, and the authority given to District Magistrates to deny permission for a conversion ‘ceremony’ is completely unacceptable. It is also a nonsense to demand the ‘time and date’ of a person’s conversion, which is a matter of their private conscience. We call upon the government of Gujarat to immediately repeal this law, and we call upon the international community to condemn what is India’s worst anti-conversion law yet.[/TD]
[TD="width: 20, align: right"]”[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Within May 2008, five states in India enacted anti-conversion laws. These are:[SUP][3][/SUP]

Apart from these five states, there are also plans to implement anti-conversion laws in two more states: Arunachal Pradesh and Rajasthan.[SUP][3][/SUP] Throughout the country, violent anti-Christian and anti-conversion campaigns by Hindu extremists continue. Joseph Augustine Charanakunnel, Archbishop of Raipur, the capital of the Indian state Chattisgarh, said "Hindu fundamentalists and local media accuse missionaries of forcing people to convert to Christianity. They carry out cheap anti-conversion propaganda, staging re-conversion ceremonies in which people are 'return' to Hinduism from Christianity. ... Hindu fundamentalists pick on Tribals because they are an easy target. For this reason, the Church has the duty of protecting these helpless people".[SUP][7]

Anti-conversion legislation in India - Conservapedia

But really the central issue here is NOT what Hindus and Buddhists are doing. I only brought it up because you did, and it is obvious that you have never met a HIndu or Buddhist, let alone taken a World Religions course.

What really matters is what Jesus says about following him. There is only one way - the narrow road. Universalism is a lie straight from the devil. Only Jesus saves his people from their sins. Not a religion, but a geniune surrender to Christ, the one who calls us from the dead.


"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Cor. 5:17-21

One way - Jesus alone!
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Thank you for the lesson. I did my best to absorb it. I did say there are extremist in every religion. These are that for sure. It to easy to get people to act out of anger when their ignorant. This is a good exsaple of just how bad ignorance can be. There are far to many examples of this already. It's amazing that so many still don't see that!!!
 
Love is a very complicated word!!! That's why I didn't use it. It just means so many different things. It means something different to almost anyone you talk to about it. Just didn't think I could get my point a crossed using it.
Yet, Jesus used that word incessantly. No, I don't think the love He demonstrated is complicated, at all. I just don't think many of us are willing to give up our "religion" to live it.
 
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Santo.
As it was in the beginning , is now , and ever shall be: world without end. Amen.

may God bless and cover Willie-T , Jeff_56 and Michael65 with his grace and love through our most beloved Savior, Jesus Christ.

There now you hav all be blessed by a catholic bond servant of Christ who councils catholic priests.
Shalom be with you always in Yeshua.
Thank you.
 
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Yet, Jesus used that word incessantly. No, I don't think the love He demonstrated is complicated, at all. I just don't think many of us are willing to give up our "religion" to live it.

Many people think that love is just a simple word. If you sit down and try to figure out the true meaning of love. You will find that it's true meaning is very complicate . love means a lot iof different thing. Some of the words that come to mind. Are words like caring, understanding, exceptence, and forgiveness, just to name a few. Then there are statements that mean love as well. Hope for the future , the desire for improvenent. The desire to be helpful. Even anger either at ourselfs or towards others can come from love in our harts. I'm sure if you try you can think of more to add to this. I surely don't know it all. Some might not feel my answer is at all correct. Others might agree. Let's see how it turns out.
 
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Santo.
As it was in the beginning , is now , and ever shall be: world without end. Amen.

may God bless and cover Willie-T , Jeff_56 and Michael65 with his grace and love through our most beloved Savior, Jesus Christ.

There now you hav all be blessed by a catholic bond servant of Christ who councils catholic priests.
Shalom be with you always in Yeshua.

Thank you!!! This forum really needed to heir from your denomination. God pless.
 
you've been wrong in most of your posts so far.... sorry if you don't care. God Himself won't change you.
You're blind as a bat fella. Tell me, were you born that way, or is that an accomplishment for you?

You say all christians will be murdered before Christ returns. The bible doesn't say that. That is a flat out lie. As, I think it was Dcon, pointed out, there will be those here on earth that will be caught up to meet Christ on His return...after the dead Christians meet Him.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
 
you've been wrong in most of your posts so far.... sorry if you don't care. God Himself won't change you.
Out of 2700+ posts, just show us, say 3, that are wrong. Shouldn't be hard....I mean after all, according to you, there are over 1500 of them that are in error.
 
Out of 2700+ posts, just show us, say 3, that are wrong. Shouldn't be hard....I mean after all, according to you, there are over 1500 of them that are in error.


I wouldnt worry about Jeff56, he needs True Regeneration from on High, indeed.... he is a god in his own eyes... and when the veil is pulled away.. you'd see who is behind his posts.....
 
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