Just through I would share my view on this case from a logical point of view, then give some scripture on the matter.
I think I speak for every Christian on this site when I describe the fine of $125,000 and the equally dire events leading up to this outcome as an absolutely disgusting spectacle, and an utter disgrace, in which a family who's only ''crime'' was faithfully following Christ, or from a secular point of view, adhering to their faith which is the bedrock and unshakeable foundation of every Christians' life.
I have heard what many have had to say, and here are the arguments:
- ''The lesbian couple were discriminated against''
- ''The Christians were bigots''
- ''The Christian's beliefs are archaic''
- ''The Christians are hypocrites''
The list goes on.
Ultimately, this comes down to two opposing principles, the lesbians rights to their sexuality, and the Christians right to their beliefs.
So, the gay couple evidently disagreed with the Christian's beliefs and vice-versa, would the obvious solution not have been to agree to disagree, and used another bakery? But no, they completely crush their business to the point of closure, and that's not enough, they then sue them and win $125,000.
Why should one couples right to their sexuality take precedence over someone's beliefs?
Whether or not anyone calls the Christian faith archaic is besides the point, at what point did the two females have the moral authority to make that decision conferred to them?
It's evident whether we like it or not, that there is no freedom to believe, we have no rights to our faith and it will get worse, and I speak for the UK, and as far as I can tell [correct me if I am wrong] the USA [in some states]. Freedom of religion and exercising beliefs is the illusion that countries have successfully deceived the masses into believing.
With the states decision to fine the bakers for simply adhering faithfully the the word of God, we can now be happily reassured that our right to belief is no longer lawfully protected, and is no longer of any importance.
Thinking about this further I cam to realize the greatest enemy here is not those who profess no faith in Christ, nor the state, but the nominal so called ''Christians'' who have completely and without qualification destroyed most churches from within, and claim to be representing Christ when they collectively approve of such an abomination.
There is no Christian outcry as big as it should be because there are so many people who wrongly identify as Christian in support of this! It is madness, it's like me claiming to be a mechanic with no understanding of cars simply because I can exercise my right to identify as something. It doesn't make me a mechanic.
Thank the Lord we were warned of this!
Mark 13:13 -- ''You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.''
1 Peter 4:14 -- ''If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.''
Matthew 5:11 -- ''Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.''
We can see from this scripture that persecution is something that will come, and increase in severity. As in many countries already they can be killed for following Christ, it is but a matter of very short time until western countries catch up, just you wait and see. Let's praise God for the promise that we are blessed every time this happens! Let's praise God for the assurance that we are in him when this happens. Let's praise God for his warning's.
Let them laugh at us, let them hate us, let slaughter us, let them curse and imprison us because we have hope in Christ and he will render every account of injustice against his servants settled in the end. We have the love of God in our hearts, let's keep a soft answer in our mouths and a cool head, and not give them satisfaction, as with every blow they strike against Christians and every time we are persecuted the really are paying us a compliment in that they know we will not retaliate and resort to violence and civil unrest in outrage. I dare people to say against us, and those high profile individuals who publicly shame us to go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi and more, to say what they say against Christians, against the Muslims. They would not dare.
Romans 12:19 -- ''Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
Matthew 5:39 -- ''But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.''
Psalm 7:11 -- ''God judges the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.''
I think I speak for every Christian on this site when I describe the fine of $125,000 and the equally dire events leading up to this outcome as an absolutely disgusting spectacle, and an utter disgrace, in which a family who's only ''crime'' was faithfully following Christ, or from a secular point of view, adhering to their faith which is the bedrock and unshakeable foundation of every Christians' life.
I have heard what many have had to say, and here are the arguments:
- ''The lesbian couple were discriminated against''
- ''The Christians were bigots''
- ''The Christian's beliefs are archaic''
- ''The Christians are hypocrites''
The list goes on.
Ultimately, this comes down to two opposing principles, the lesbians rights to their sexuality, and the Christians right to their beliefs.
So, the gay couple evidently disagreed with the Christian's beliefs and vice-versa, would the obvious solution not have been to agree to disagree, and used another bakery? But no, they completely crush their business to the point of closure, and that's not enough, they then sue them and win $125,000.
Why should one couples right to their sexuality take precedence over someone's beliefs?
Whether or not anyone calls the Christian faith archaic is besides the point, at what point did the two females have the moral authority to make that decision conferred to them?
It's evident whether we like it or not, that there is no freedom to believe, we have no rights to our faith and it will get worse, and I speak for the UK, and as far as I can tell [correct me if I am wrong] the USA [in some states]. Freedom of religion and exercising beliefs is the illusion that countries have successfully deceived the masses into believing.
With the states decision to fine the bakers for simply adhering faithfully the the word of God, we can now be happily reassured that our right to belief is no longer lawfully protected, and is no longer of any importance.
Thinking about this further I cam to realize the greatest enemy here is not those who profess no faith in Christ, nor the state, but the nominal so called ''Christians'' who have completely and without qualification destroyed most churches from within, and claim to be representing Christ when they collectively approve of such an abomination.
There is no Christian outcry as big as it should be because there are so many people who wrongly identify as Christian in support of this! It is madness, it's like me claiming to be a mechanic with no understanding of cars simply because I can exercise my right to identify as something. It doesn't make me a mechanic.
Thank the Lord we were warned of this!
Mark 13:13 -- ''You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.''
1 Peter 4:14 -- ''If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.''
Matthew 5:11 -- ''Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.''
We can see from this scripture that persecution is something that will come, and increase in severity. As in many countries already they can be killed for following Christ, it is but a matter of very short time until western countries catch up, just you wait and see. Let's praise God for the promise that we are blessed every time this happens! Let's praise God for the assurance that we are in him when this happens. Let's praise God for his warning's.
Let them laugh at us, let them hate us, let slaughter us, let them curse and imprison us because we have hope in Christ and he will render every account of injustice against his servants settled in the end. We have the love of God in our hearts, let's keep a soft answer in our mouths and a cool head, and not give them satisfaction, as with every blow they strike against Christians and every time we are persecuted the really are paying us a compliment in that they know we will not retaliate and resort to violence and civil unrest in outrage. I dare people to say against us, and those high profile individuals who publicly shame us to go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi and more, to say what they say against Christians, against the Muslims. They would not dare.
Romans 12:19 -- ''Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
Matthew 5:39 -- ''But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.''
Psalm 7:11 -- ''God judges the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.''
