Someone PLEASE tell me I'm not the only one to think this!

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And God will save all Israel, no where am I saying we completely replaced Israel man. Paul himself said they would be grafted back into the tree if THEY DON'T CONTINUE IN THEIR UNBELIEF. Faith is the only thing that puts and keeps them on the tree. They were the natural branches, not the tree itself. CHRIST is the tree that supports them, and us, and in him there is no difference. If they belong to Christ he will Graft them back in, after they have been made envious by us.

Has Israel been made envious by us yet? I honestly don't think they have. Paul made his ministry in Part to save his own people. But they have to be saved by understanding what Paul was telling us. That in Christ there is no difference, there is no one chosen Apart from Christ. That was Paul's ministry man. Abraham's seed is Christ and those in him, that's the children of Promise. That's the ministry Paul wanted his own race to see man. Such a man's praise comes not from men but God, and the only ones regarded as Abraham's descendants and as the children of promise are those in Christ, that's what Paul wanted his own people to understand. That was Paul's very ministry. The children of Promise inherit the land forever, and that's only happening by being born again and in Christ. That's the very ministry Paul was referring to in Romans 11. From Romans to Colossians to Galatians to Hebrews, he says the same thing. It's only in Christ one is regarded as Abraham's seed.
 
The tree of Life was also in the garden of Eden. It wasn't spiritual but a natural tree just as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

9 Bible Verses about
TREE OF LIFE
Genesis 2:8-17


And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. read more.
Genesis 3:22-24


And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Revelation 22:1-2


And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 2:7


He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 22:14-15

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Proverbs 15:4


A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
Proverbs 3:13-18
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. read more.
Proverbs 11:30


The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.
Proverbs 13:12


Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.
So which natural tree growing out of the earth gives eternal life??
Tell me that you know there is only one thing that can do that.

Or how about the tree of knowledge. Was it an apple, fig, pear??
Tell me so I don't buy it at the super market.

Understand this: EVERY TREE IS RECOGNIZED BY ITS FRUIT.
 
So which natural tree growing out of the earth gives eternal life??
Tell me that you know there is only one thing that can do that.

Or how about the tree of knowledge. Was it an apple, fig, pear??
Tell me so I don't buy it at the super market.

Understand this: EVERY TREE IS RECOGNIZED BY ITS FRUIT.

Just wikipedia the greek meaning of Paradise
 
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So which natural tree growing out of the earth gives eternal life??
Tell me that you know there is only one thing that can do that.

Or how about the tree of knowledge. Was it an apple, fig, pear??
Tell me so I don't buy it at the super market.

Understand this: EVERY TREE IS RECOGNIZED BY ITS FRUIT.

John 6:53-Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you EAT THE FLESH of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you."

Like I said, what Tree gives eternal life that we should be a part of?
 
See Lk 3:36.

Thank you and with all due respect to you, in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, next time please 'shut up' and no need to 'add', to 'confuse' and 'distract' the initial 'topic', when the Jews coming from the same 'genealogy' rejected, the distinctively chosen one from their their very own community, who have come to liberate them from their enemies.

The same cannot be said of Noah, Shem and Arphaxad because they are automatically saved because of their faith to GOD at their time, whom they did not reject, and CHRIST also for them who are 'asleep' with their fathers, have 'fulfilled' on the Cross, as HE said;

"It is accomplished."

The 'topic' Apostle Paul is referring to and i am guided to testify is about those who reject the MESSIAH, GOD has sent for them. Since HE has 'given them' a spirit of 'stupor', for the full number of Gentiles to know and receive the 'crumbs' and be 'grafted in' and then once finished HE would bring back the Gospel back to the 'Jews'. During this time the unfruitful Gentiles branches 'grafted in' before, will be once again 'cut off', in order to make way for the 'natural branches' cut off once before to be 'reattached' once again to it's tree.

That is why Apostle Paul especially speaking to the Gentiles due to their nature of 'pride' and of 'conceit' to be 'careful' of their 'bragging' of 'equality', since the Jews because of their 'unbelief' against their own MESSIAH, GOD has sent and they rejected HIM and were 'cut off' and therefore we were grafted in their place and are 'equal'.

Gentiles be careful of 'testifying' such statement as above, 'witnessing' to others 'bragging' your 'equality' that can on that day 'fall short' once again and forgetting them who were 'made to fall, because of you', whom GOD still loves and want to save one day.

But rather as a matter of fact, to 'testify' in 'fear' and 'reverence' to them that because of them, who have actually truly the ones GOD through have 'saved us', prophetically HIS planned will and purpose. Later they will be one day once again be welcomed back and be saved, as they deserve and promised from the beginning
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This will be a true 'statement' of faith of a saved Gentile Christian, in humble and humility to their GOD and fellow men, in faith according to the sound doctrine spiritual knowledge of the New testament/Covenant 'taught' and 'imitating' as to testify 'truth founded equality', therefore also having 'equal birth pangs', that which Apostle Paul felt for his 'kinsmen', in their 'unbelief' that day, even now one would feel being in the same 'spirit' today and now.

Have we who have witnessed these in Spiritual Knowledge of the HOLY BIBLE, as it is written, do we witness the same in your and your bunch's 'testimonies' from the beginning of this Tread?

Nope, but in contrary and contention and 'change of tune' from time to time, to make them seem 'right' and 'okay' anyway, and ignorantly forgetting one day, sure to be 'cut off' as workers of 'lawlessness'.

Repent to GOD of the written Holy Scripture, then rather continue in ignorance!

You are 'nearsighted' and therefore testifying as 'babes in CHRIST knowledge testimonies' and in 'incomplete knowledge' also teaching others and are 'stubborn' and 'unable' first to see 'far' and still drinking 'milk'.

This 'tread' will not 'derail', as you 'proudly' testify Elin, but you will as a 'sign' to others, if you continue in the same 'prideful' manner of faith and in claiming 'equality' with the Jews and 'influencing' others 'witnessing' together short and false of Holy Scripture.

You and your supporting bunch do not understand the meaning of 'pride' according to spiritual HOLY BIBLE teaching term of GOD, since they are 'incomplete', conformed in 'yous' according to your faith 'testimonies'. i forgive you and your discouraging arrogance, even against a Jew ignorantly and may GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you and help you repent.


As it is written regarding 'faith' and 'nearsightedness' in 2 Peter 1;5-9. Those who fail to read this carefully in 'context' and understand them as a believer and pursue them in order to see far, will therefore remain as 'babes in CHRIST' still drinking 'milk' and influencing others to do the same.
 
If Israel was the tree they would have never been cast off. Christ is the tree. Not to mention, GOD told Abraham to his descendants he would give this land forever, and to be given a land forever involves eternity, and if it involves eternity that's a heavenly thing brother. Scripture says Abraham was looking forward to a heavenly home, and scripture also says that it is the children of promise, born by the Power of the spirit, who Are regarded as Abraham's true seed, for if you are IN CHRIST you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. So I think you are missing what made Israel in the first place. Being a child of Abraham for one. Being on the tree, supported by the root which was Christ. Inheriting a land forever...the heavenly Jerusalem. All of those things we recieve, through Christ. Am I saying we are the natural branches. No. But as scripture declares, it's not the children born in the ordinary way who are regarded as Abraham's descendants, it the children of promise, and as Galatians says the children of promise, are born by the power of the spirit, and as Christ says spirit gives birth to spirit.....born again, means the children of promise, Abraham's seed was Christ!
Apart from being a descendant of Abraham, and in the tree supported by Christ, there is no Israel. That's what made them chosen in the first place.

i hope you and your 'likes' supporting 'ignorant' friends remember too these first once again, that you 'testified' earlier boldly, therefore including Gentiles Christians proudly claiming 'equality' and totally 'excluded' the 'cut off' branches Israel, that 'there is no Israel'?

Then why in the first place, after the 'holocaust' and even their request rejected by the UN nation council and the pope himself, for their return to their land, by GOD will and promise they returned and there is a nation called Israel today, exist in the middle-east, whom even their enemies, the 'world' cannot touch them, such 'a tiny nation'?

Why JESUS's second return with HIS Holy Angels is just to come and fight for Israel, when they were surrounded by the world's armies joined together by the will of satan through the beast and the false prophet, in order to 'annihilation' the Israelite from the face of the earth?
 
God always calls us my people ,The elect of God are His strength, Zion in the old testament is Mt.HermanDuet 4:48 Sion on the other hand in the NT is symbolic of the church , the elect of God have the seal of God and are genuinely under God`s Grace through election in the first world age , The elect of God are the remnant set aside and given to Christ by The Father , They were in the old testament Duet 7:7 -9 speaks of a Thousand generations , All who receive Christ Join the spiritual family of Abraham , hence God`s promise to Abraham has been fulfilled, Abraham is currently the spiritual father on many nations (peoples) because many are Christians and reside in many Nations, Christ said His grace is sufficient and so it is, People of God or as God calls those who take on salvation , my people , Christ calls us friends and the old testament prophets called us who were to receive grace through Christ , Duet chap 32 : 8-9 are who God separated unto Himself and identifies who His people are , those with eyes that see and ears that hear are the elect of today and the elect will sing the song of Moses when Christ shows up , Hebrews chap 11:6 is God`s promise to all and those who receive it are the ones of who all Prophets spoke of in God`s word, salvation is open to all , except satan and his fallen angels they have already been sentenced to death , satan`s sentence can be found in Ezk chap 28 , (he`s called the prince of Tyrus}, tryus means rock in hebrew , God will turn satan to ashes from within in the sight of men, this has not occurred yet Ezk 28:18 .
 
Not cursing anybody, they will be grafted back in if they don't continue in their unbelief.
Just like every other nation on earth, no one who doesn't come to Christ, will EVER enter the kingdom, and that goes for everyone, there is nothing that makes anyone chosen other than him.

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Then further these, proudly and confidently taken from Apostle Paul's unfinished 'testimony', when he himself did not finish yet in whole, in explanation, as it is written and given in 'context', in order for us to 'witness' the same in 'whole'.
 
Go to Mark chap 8 and learn to see men as trees walking , YOU ARE CORRECT when you say no literal tree can give eternal life and I`d like to add that there are nor have ever been trees that have knowledge of good and evil either(satan who is a man)was in the garden and was called an serpent by God ,Christ is the Tree of Life, God is an evergreen tree come rest in His branches (arms)and those who can avoid the deception of the end times will be called Trees of righteousness and you will be clapping and literal trees cannot clap ....Isaiah 55:12 and 61:3
 
Go to Mark chap 8 and learn to see men as trees walking , YOU ARE CORRECT when you say no literal tree can give eternal life and I`d like to add that there are nor have ever been trees that have knowledge of good and evil either(satan who is a man)was in the garden and was called an serpent by God Revelation 20:2 ,Christ is the Tree of Life Luke 23:31 Revelation 22:2 because He is our healer and by His stripes we are healed 1st Pet 2:24, Hosea 14:8 God is an Green Fir tree come rest in His branches (arms)and those who can avoid the deception of the end times will be called Trees of righteousness and you will be clapping and literal trees cannot clap ....Isaiah 55:12 and 61:3 .. So as David see yourself as a green olive tree Psalms 52:8 hope this helps.....Peace 2u
 
People, God did not reject his people Israel, they were cast off because of unbelief, but they will be grafted in if they don't continue in that Unbelief.

The prophets testified to that very thing. Moses, Hosea, for thru that
Very one, was testified, HE WILL CALL THEM HIS PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HIS PEOPLE.

Christ came to make the two-one, so that in him they could both have access to God, so that the two of them should become one house of God, and in Christ there is no different in the two.
the two different people's have become one, and that IS the house of GOD, we are both under that new covenat.

Peter testifies to that very thing as us being God's house now, for he says, we are a chosen poeple, a royal preisthood, A HOLY NATION.
Peter addresses those who are now in Christ, as God's holy,chosen Nation, and according to scripture that could be no other THAN ISRAEL. THERE IS NO OTHER HOUSE GOD CHOOSES OUT OF THE NATIONS FOR HIMSELF.

Together, Israel and the Gentiles have become one house, in Christ, THAT'S WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS.

I would never boast over a Jew that hasn't accepted Christ, Christ died for them, and I would pray that he does put them back in the tree!! But the beauty of Christ is this, no one is Chosen apart from him, but Anyone on the face of the EARTH becomes God's house. A house is where you live and in CHRIST, we become the temple of God, each as indivual living stones, who on the resurrection day will all come Togther to be his temple forever.

Here we go again, and denying 'boasting' about Gentile's 'acceptance' and 'equality', that Apostle Paul cautioned the Gentiles regarding, 'not to proudly continue about'. First of all, ignorantly forgetting and putting away those who are not 'equal' in nature with the Gentiles from the beginning and whom, they who are save and 'grafted' in their places temporarily 'given up', due to reaching Grace to 'outsiders' for the moment, in order for them to learn, practice and bear fruit with other branches who still remain in that tree and they are the New Testament 'testified' people by GOD, from Gospel of Matthew to Revelation of John.

Whom therefore they Gentile Christians should 'fear' and give 'reverence' to, for their Salvation and acceptance. Further also not 'boasting' that, 'Since their unbelief we were grafted'.

They the Jews in their 'unbelief' were 'put off' by the will of GOD temporarily and the Gentiles are temporarily 'grafted', unless one bear fruit in knowledge with them, by together 'abiding' in CHRIST's teaching written in the New Testament/Covenant and not at all go on ahead of them and 'witness' even using their given 'gifts' in ministry and bear no fruit at all in 'morality' required by the tree.

Isn't Apostle Paul referring to their 'unbelief' according to during his witnessing days and after, that 'if they remain in their unbelief'. Didn't he further continue down the verses saying that, 'the Gospel will return to Israel until the full number of Gentiles have come in'?

Did this happen during the time of Apostle Paul or has it happen till today?

Has the 'two witnesses' mentioned in the book of Revelation have come to Jerusalem to 'minister' onto the Jews the Gospel once again?

Who will kill them, the Jews in their 'unbelief' or the beast?

As the saying of this world goes that;

'Stop covering your tracks.'

You have been 'discovered' to be 'responding' neither here nor there, by already two or three witnesses including me until now. We have been highlighting them and want to help you, but you seem to re-quote what is given from ours in witnessing and try to 'cover your tracks' and claiming innocence all along.

This lesson in correction from GOD is not directed to one person, but everyone who are 'witnessing' Grace and Truth of the written New Testament/Covenant and 'as it is written' and in 'context'.
 
And God will save all Israel, no where am I saying we completely replaced Israel man. Paul himself said they would be grafted back into the tree if THEY DON'T CONTINUE IN THEIR UNBELIEF. Faith is the only thing that puts and keeps them on the tree. They were the natural branches, not the tree itself. CHRIST is the tree that supports them, and us, and in him there is no difference. If they belong to Christ he will Graft them back in, after they have been made envious by us.

Has Israel been made envious by us yet? I honestly don't think they have. Paul made his ministry in Part to save his own people. But they have to be saved by understanding what Paul was telling us. That in Christ there is no difference, there is no one chosen Apart from Christ. That was Paul's ministry man. Abraham's seed is Christ and those in him, that's the children of Promise. That's the ministry Paul wanted his own race to see man. Such a man's praise comes not from men but God, and the only ones regarded as Abraham's descendants and as the children of promise are those in Christ, that's what Paul wanted his own people to understand. That was Paul's very ministry. The children of Promise inherit the land forever, and that's only happening by being born again and in Christ. That's the very ministry Paul was referring to in Romans 11. From Romans to Colossians to Galatians to Hebrews, he says the same thing. It's only in Christ one is regarded as Abraham's seed.

This is what we are talking about one who is clever in 'changing tunes' from time to time, that he or she was right all along. Because one is clever to 're-quote' our quotation and agreeing to them that, 'all of Israel shall be saved' and therefore also disagreeing by his or her quotation that, 'if they remain in their unbelief'?

We have given you the 'finishing' saying of Apostle Paul to that 'passage' in 'context' witten, but you still remain and fixed on that was said in the 'midst' and is 'incomplete' in witnessing. This is what we are saying about you and your 'ignorant' friends who blindly support you and witnessing with you, who are together as 'proud bragger' continuing and who will soon among those who will be 'cut off' from that tree of the 'Covenant', if you do not repen
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This is what we are talking about one who is clever in 'changing tunes' from time to time, that he or she was right all along. Because one is clever to 're-quote' our quotation and agreeing to them that, 'all of Israel shall be saved' and therefore also disagreeing by his or her quotation that, 'if they remain in their unbelief'?

We have given you the 'finishing' saying of Apostle Paul to that 'passage' in 'context' witten, but you still remain and fixed on that was said in the 'midst' and is 'incomplete' in witnessing. This is what we are saying about you and your 'ignorant' friends who blindly support you and witnessing with you, who are together as 'proud bragger' continuing and who will soon among those who will be 'cut off' from that tree of the 'Covenant', if you do not repen
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Well hello again. Thank you for showing me you can't even say the words Paul said: in Christ there is no difference. So here was Paul's ministry, this is what he wanted those of his own race to understand what Moses meant by Envious:

"He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus,*so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit."

"If you belong to Christ,*then you are Abraham's seed,*and heirs*according to the promise."

"But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin,*so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe."
"If you belong to Christ,*then you are Abraham's seed,*and heirs*according to the promise."

*"for all of you who were baptized into Christ*have clothed yourselves with Christ." "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free,*male nor female,*for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

"Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. On the contrary, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned."*"In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children,*but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring."

"Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of Promise."

"In him you were also circumcised,*in the putting off of the sinful nature,*not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ", "a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart,*by the Spirit,*not by the written code.*Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God."

This is Paul's ministry to the Gentiles, of which he wanted those of his own race to accept. You act as if Paul's words change just because he said he wanted them to save those of his own race. This is Paul's entire ministry you seem to miss, that in Christ there is no difference, one receives the promises spoken to Abraham, and are made heirs, and Paul, not I, said "Israel stumbled over the stumbling stone." *

So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion,*a tested stone,*a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;*the one who trusts will never be dismayed."
 
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This is what we are talking about one who is clever in 'changing tunes' from time to time, that he or she was right all along. Because one is clever to 're-quote' our quotation and agreeing to them that, 'all of Israel shall be saved' and therefore also disagreeing by his or her quotation that, 'if they remain in their unbelief'?

We have given you the 'finishing' saying of Apostle Paul to that 'passage' in 'context' witten, but you still remain and fixed on that was said in the 'midst' and is 'incomplete' in witnessing. This is what we are saying about you and your 'ignorant' friends who blindly support you and witnessing with you, who are together as 'proud bragger' continuing and who will soon among those who will be 'cut off' from that tree of the 'Covenant', if you do not repen
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You still haven't answered my question, why does Peter call us this?:
1 Peter 2:9*NIV

9*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

So again I will ask, why is Peter calling those chosen to be sprinkled by the blood of Christ, a chosen people, a royal priesthood and A HOLY NATION?

Not all Israel is Israel. How can they even be considered Israel and not be Abraham's seed in Christ, to whom PAUL said makes.one.an heir.of the very promise spoken to Abraham? Isn't the first prerequisite of Being Israel is being counted as Abraham's seed and an heir according to promise?
 
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You still haven't answered my question, why does Peter call us this?:
1 Peter 2:9*NIV

9*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

So again I will ask, why is Peter calling those chosen to be sprinkled by the blood of Christ, a chosen people, a royal priesthood and A HOLY NATION?

Not all Israel is Israel. How can they even be considered Israel and not be Abraham's seed in Christ, to whom PAUL said makes.one.an heir.of the very promise spoken to Abraham? Isn't the first prerequisite of Being Israel is being counted as Abraham's seed and an heir according to promise?

And this is for anyone who says Jesus didn't come to make the two houses one house! Who ever believes that is living in denial of what Jesus said!

John 10:16*"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd."

And in this way ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED.

One flock, one shepherd. The words of Christ himself. In him, the tree is no difference, he supports both the natural and the grafted, and there is one flock, so that they are the promised seed of Abraham, to whom Alone the covenant was given.

This one flock, with one shepherd are the flock rescued on the day of darkness in Ezekiel 34:12. Out of all the nations, just like Matthew 24 says, the darkness and the angles gathering the elect.

Please do not deny that. Anyone who trusts in this stone, will not be dismayed, the words of God Almighty himself.

So please stop telling me I said the church replaces Israel. Israel and the body of Christ are one flock, ad they inherit the kingdom above, where Jesus said he would take us to be with him, where he himself said his Kingdom was from. The sheep of that kingdom, were predistined and foreknown to be conformed into Christ. Those of that place, God knows their name, and they LISTEN TO THE SON.
 
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The tree of Life was also in the garden of Eden. It wasn't spiritual but a natural tree just as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

9 Bible Verses about
TREE OF LIFE
Genesis 2:8-17


And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. read more.
Genesis 3:22-24


And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Revelation 22:1-2


And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 2:7


He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 22:14-15

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Proverbs 15:4


A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
Proverbs 3:13-18
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. read more.
Proverbs 11:30


The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.
Proverbs 13:12


Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.

The trees of Eden,,,,
From God thru the prophet Ezekiel

Ezekiel 31:9*NIV

9*I made it beautiful with abundant branches, the envy of all the*trees of Eden*in the garden of God.

Ezekiel 31:16*NIV

16*I made the nations tremble at the sound of its fall when I brought it down to the grave with those who go down to the pit. Then all the*trees of Eden, the choicest and best of Lebanon, all the trees that were well-watered, were consoled in the earth below.

Ezekiel 31:18*NIV

18*" 'Which of the*trees of Eden*can be compared with you in splendor and majesty? Yet you, too, will be brought down with the*trees of Eden*to the earth below; you will lie among the uncircumcised, with those killed by the sword. " 'This is Pharaoh and all his hordes, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

Maybe there is something more to the trees in Eden friend.
 
Mark chap 8 tells who should be seen as trees , Christ is the tree of Life ,satan is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil Christians are the Cedars of Lebanon and the field is the world Isaiah chap 61 makes clear of who the trees of Eden are , They are a Planting of the Lord and in Isaiah 55:12 is what God`s righteous planting will be doing in the end.....
 
You still haven't answered my question, why does Peter call us this?:
1 Peter 2:9*NIV

9*But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

So again I will ask, why is Peter calling those chosen to be sprinkled by the blood of Christ, a chosen people, a royal priesthood and A HOLY NATION?

Not all Israel is Israel. How can they even be considered Israel and not be Abraham's seed in Christ, to whom PAUL said makes.one.an heir.of the very promise spoken to Abraham? Isn't the first prerequisite of Being Israel is being counted as Abraham's seed and an heir according to promise?

Yes 'proud braggers' and it is not about how clever you have interpreted them, and yes they are indeed referring to Gentile Christians and they are here among those who have corrected you, 'bragging' your 'calling' in mistakes. First of all they are given to the Gentiles in order for them as promised, in order 'to serve others who are rich or poor and rather not to be served by others who are rich or poor'.

But for now you still remain in the Holy Scripture knowledge, in 'ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth' and as 'babes in CHRIST', still drinking 'milk' and that is why you put on a 'show' and 'show off' your gifted ability, that yous understanding is better that ours. i wish it was so, that we may 'rejoice' together in 'spirit and truth' and serve together for the sake of others to 'built up' and not 'ourselves' in 'pride', 'conceit' and 'deception' of the flesh/carnal/self within, which 'wars against the HOLY SPIRIT and stop us from doing what we want to do'. Apostle Paul in his epistle to the Galatians Gentile Christian church, said, 'their fruits are evident in us'.

You came to us according to your 'tread' in the beginning wanting to know our opinion, whether your revelations of the Holy Scripture are to be true, and then you 'show off' your ability to 'interpret' the Holy Scripture as well. And then you began to 'teach', but some of us did 'witness' something very wrong in you, 'as nature tend to take it's place', your behavior in 'witnessing' GOD's every Word. Soon your true colors 'fringe' of the 'spirit of error', unable to take correction but rather further manipulate, using the Holy Scripture to justify, you never made 'mistakes'.

'Sorry to burst your bubbles', as the worldly saying goes that you understand them even better than what is of 'obedience' and 'submission', that the promise of GOD to the Gentile Christians and their given gifts are mentioned, and their acceptance and their calling. But at the same time, the Apostles also caution their habitual nature and behavior that can lead them to 'pride', 'deceit' and 'conceit', in order not to fall again, because of their 'acceptance' and 'adoption', according to their flesh/carnal/self once again, that they are vulnerable to fall back into and 'reoffend' against GOD Word and HIS people, as i and others have 'witnessed' and 'highlighted'.

Since the departure of all these Apostles and faithful Christians, Jews and Gentiles under them in submission and obedience to GOD's every Word through them and the 'Reformers' who brought us the 'translated' in all languages HOLY BIBLE, please tel me what is the 'state' of GOD's church ever since until today?

Since having the Spiritual Kingdom knowledge and gifts representing Heaven, 'at hand', have we, even individually, the Catholic and the Protestant Church have 'excelled' or 'declined' in submission and obedience to GOD's every word written in the HOLY BIBLE, especially the New Testament/Covenant for Christians, Jews or Gentiles alike?

But sadly all are 'heart-harden', remained partially in carnal/flesh/self living and witnessing and not able to listen to GOD's voice, even in correction, given to the one HE loves.

And it is written about them that;

"............................................................................................., for you
will not enter My place of rest."

You may quote to a Jew or Gentile 'born again' Christian all the Holy Scripture concerning your 'acceptance' and 'adoption' and 'calling', all you want. But you still cannot 'convince' them that you know what is 'truth' founded submission and obedience and doing HIS will, 'in accordance to them', honoring HIM, HIS SON and the HOLY SPIRIT'. Everything clearly 'shows', one's 'witnessing' of GOD's every Word and as doers, their 'motives' and 'nature' in doing so. The Church consist of 'born again' Jews or Gentiles who are in submission and obedience to GOD 's every Word are able to 'distinguish' between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth'.

What started out as a 'mild' correction to 'repent' and in order to 'improve' one's 'obedience' and 'submission' to GOD's every Word understanding them 'in whole', you are taking yours to further heights, what you have started, to a whole new 'level' of teaching, your 'version' of 'interpreting' of the Holy Scripture, taken from here and there and ignoring 'valuable' correction given in 'context', but rather use them, 'to cover your footsteps'.

You may continue in your 'babes in CHRIST' vain repetition of your 'acceptance', 'adoption' and 'gifts' and others with you, that which yous received, only 'by Grace and through faith', which we already know from the beginning, even the 'lambs and sheep' of GOD in sound doctrine knowledge of the HOLY BIBLE, 'as it is written'.

Sorry, i do not have to answer you anything, but we are now called to 'back off' from those who are 'conceited' within themselves, for the sake GOD's 'lambs and sheep' given to CHRIST.

Sadly, just like hagar was to Sarah, who only made her 'furious' over the time, of her 'proud bragging' and 'show off' manner of her calling and acceptance and gift to Abraham. We all know in the story what Sarah did to her and GOD approved of it and Abraham could not do anything about it, that she and her son were chased away for 'Good' and will not inherit anything of Abraham's. Since we are Sarah's children, from her lesson through CHRIST, we have learned to 'back off' and 'let vengeance be our LORD's'.

Lambs and sheep of the Living GOD for CHRIST, 'be alert and stay awake' and turn away from 'counterfeits' and 'imposters' who do not built you up in obedience and submission to GOD's every word in whole and 'as it is written' about truth 'equality' between Jews and Gentiles. For the sake of you the LORD JESUS CHRIST guided us to step in and 'expose' them, in order for them to repent and not to get rid of them, which only GOD decides.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, GOD bless you, keep you from temptation and protect you from evil.

 
And this is for anyone who says Jesus didn't come to make the two houses one house! Who ever believes that is living in denial of what Jesus said!

Is that your best 'interpretation' teacher?

Witnessing lambs and sheep. Jews and Gentiles alike and beloved of CHRIST, in humble and humility as an unworthy servant, i am only responding for you to 'witness' false.

As it is written and said by the chosen Apostle Paul for the Gentile Christian that;

"To shut stupid silence ignorant people."

LORD JESUS CHRIST did not come to make the two divided houses into one. This as to make and proclaim all religion as one and we all worship the same GOD but not in the same way. (the 'pope' orchestrated one lately for the world to watch, bringing all religion priests together and in prayer, in order to make the world a better place and many of our 'protestant' church leaders attended, even to one kissing the pope's hand in admiration).

Please listen to the 'anointing' placed in us Teacher, the HOLY SPIRIT's interpretation to justify that the other 'interpretation' is close but false according to the truth. The written Holy Scripture in Romans chapter 11, did use two 'olive trees' as an example, yes, but did CHRIST make both trees as one or cut off some of the branches in the first tree and just for now put them aside and cut off some of the branches of the second tree and 'grafted' them to the first tree. This proves CHRIST made/cultivated only one tree and worked on that one tree with it's remaining fruitful branches, still Israel, the true 'House of Jacob' from the beginning, and by only grafting branches that which HE purchased them, 'by Grace through faith' from the other ignored tree, till today wildly growing, the world. the true 'house of satan'.

And so regarding the 'houses' that CHRIST has made them into one?

False!

It has always been and be only 'one' and remain standing according to Abraham's promise, 'The House Of Jacob', Israelite. The other built by itself house remain standing on it's own with no 'ties' at all until today and ever.

GOD by CHRIST and for CHRIST, removed from HIS house in a harsh test/trial of corrections some of HIS rebellion and unfruitful children and put them aside in chastisement for awhile, until they have a change of heart of repentance.

Meantime, HE reached out to those slave, poor, orphans and widows from the other house, who were 'tortured' by the master of that house and by his servants. HE therefore, out of compassion purchased them and brough them back to HIS house and accepted and adopted them as HIS own children, where HIS remaining fruitful obedient biological children of HIS house accepted them as well. And moreover also to cause jealousy on HIS rebellious unfruitful children, until they have a change of heart in repentance and be accepted back once again, as now everyone in 'one' big happy family with no divisions amongst one another.

But over the years, when the FATHER decided to talk to HIS rebellious children who were put aside once, in order to show compassion to the 'outsiders' instead, and once again they repented and HE embraced them back. But before HE welcomed them back home, HE first 're-removed' the adopted ones who were unfruitful according to their position and became 'proud, conceit and deceitful' in their outer 'arrayed' position of 'equality', even in wealth, similar with HIS remained biological ones, who now 'boastfully proclaiming amongst them and in embarrassment to the punished biological ones, which the 'remained' ones, in their on going 'birth pangs' longed to save and bring them back.

Even the others are dealth with as follows, as mentioned above, over the time period of meantime separation. But one day HE plans to bring all of them, HIS biological ones, HE punished earlier, back and unite them all together once and for all as HE promised, even together with the remaining, in humble and humility and fearful, faithful and fruitful adopted ones, who never forget but continuously feared and revered, even the punished ones will return home one day, as they deserve and worthy, during the period of HIS test/trial on the adopted and accepted ones of the growing faithfulness.

Let us not be like 'infants' to mess around with the, 'every word that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD that man of CHRIST shall live by', written in the HOLY BIBLE, given by our LORD JESUS CHRIST, through the 'inspiration' of the HOLY SPIRIT, given to 'lame men' who live in different periods of time and different regions, over the time.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST i 'beseech' you, little sir sltaylor to stop infancy 'witnessing' and messing up the straight path made by our LORD JESUS CHRIST until HIS return, and as good stewards, both Jews and Gentiles Christians, to remain submissive and obedient to 'as it is written', not sway to the left or right, during a period of HIS planned test/trial of faithfulness to HIS every written Word(CHRIST),

You are correct in many other things that you have shared but you still need 'completion' in Kingdom Spiritual Knowledge 'as it is written' and in 'context' and accounted as a faithful doer of HIS every Word(CHRIST).

This is the best interpretation of the HOLY SPIRIT allowed now, that one would ever find to be 'built up', the church in knowledge faith, in order not to be in 'ignorance' and be deceived by other, even those who have not fully grown in allowed Kingdom knowledge in 'faith' according to the HOLY BIBLE. How can such person possible 'teach' others, when even using examples that doesn't matsh with the Holy Scripture and has been 'exposed' of false.

Therefore how can they prove to you they are faithful doers, being 'incomplete' in knowledge faith.?

This is clearly 'lawlessness' witnessing and deceiving others.

As it is written and even quoted in earlier reply to whom this may concern, that;

"The blind leading the blind and soon they are going to fall into a ditch."

 
Is that your best 'interpretation' teacher?

Witnessing lambs and sheep. Jews and Gentiles alike and beloved of CHRIST, in humble and humility as an unworthy servant, i am only responding for you to 'witness' false.

As it is written and said by the chosen Apostle Paul for the Gentile Christian that;

"To shut stupid silence ignorant people."

LORD JESUS CHRIST did not come to make the two divided houses into one. This as to make and proclaim all religion as one and we all worship the same GOD but not in the same way. (the 'pope' orchestrated one lately for the world to watch, bringing all religion priests together and in prayer, in order to make the world a better place and many of our 'protestant' church leaders attended, even to one kissing the pope's hand in admiration).

Please listen to the 'anointing' placed in us Teacher, the HOLY SPIRIT's interpretation to justify that the other 'interpretation' is close but false according to the truth. The written Holy Scripture in Romans chapter 11, did use two 'olive trees' as an example, yes, but did CHRIST make both trees as one or cut off some of the branches in the first tree and just for now put them aside and cut off some of the branches of the second tree and 'grafted' them to the first tree. This proves CHRIST made/cultivated only one tree and worked on that one tree with it's remaining fruitful branches, still Israel, the true 'House of Jacob' from the beginning, and by only grafting branches that which HE purchased them, 'by Grace through faith' from the other ignored tree, till today wildly growing, the world. the true 'house of satan'.

And so regarding the 'houses' that CHRIST has made them into one?

False!

It has always been and be only 'one' and remain standing according to Abraham's promise, 'The House Of Jacob', Israelite. The other built by itself house remain standing on it's own with no 'ties' at all until today and ever.

GOD by CHRIST and for CHRIST, removed from HIS house in a harsh test/trial of corrections some of HIS rebellion and unfruitful children and put them aside in chastisement for awhile, until they have a change of heart of repentance.

Meantime, HE reached out to those slave, poor, orphans and widows from the other house, who were 'tortured' by the master of that house and by his servants. HE therefore, out of compassion purchased them and brough them back to HIS house and accepted and adopted them as HIS own children, where HIS remaining fruitful obedient biological children of HIS house accepted them as well. And moreover also to cause jealousy on HIS rebellious unfruitful children, until they have a change of heart in repentance and be accepted back once again, as now everyone in 'one' big happy family with no divisions amongst one another.

But over the years, when the FATHER decided to talk to HIS rebellious children who were put aside once, in order to show compassion to the 'outsiders' instead, and once again they repented and HE embraced them back. But before HE welcomed them back home, HE first 're-removed' the adopted ones who were unfruitful according to their position and became 'proud, conceit and deceitful' in their outer 'arrayed' position of 'equality', even in wealth, similar with HIS remained biological ones, who now 'boastfully proclaiming amongst them and in embarrassment to the punished biological ones, which the 'remained' ones, in their on going 'birth pangs' longed to save and bring them back.

Even the others are dealth with as follows, as mentioned above, over the time period of meantime separation. But one day HE plans to bring all of them, HIS biological ones, HE punished earlier, back and unite them all together once and for all as HE promised, even together with the remaining, in humble and humility and fearful, faithful and fruitful adopted ones, who never forget but continuously feared and revered, even the punished ones will return home one day, as they deserve and worthy, during the period of HIS test/trial on the adopted and accepted ones of the growing faithfulness.

Let us not be like 'infants' to mess around with the, 'every word that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD that man of CHRIST shall live by', written in the HOLY BIBLE, given by our LORD JESUS CHRIST, through the 'inspiration' of the HOLY SPIRIT, given to 'lame men' who live in different periods of time and different regions, over the time.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST i 'beseech' you, little sir sltaylor to stop infancy 'witnessing' and messing up the straight path made by our LORD JESUS CHRIST until HIS return, and as good stewards, both Jews and Gentiles Christians, to remain submissive and obedient to 'as it is written', not sway to the left or right, during a period of HIS planned test/trial of faithfulness to HIS every written Word(CHRIST),

You are correct in many other things that you have shared but you still need 'completion' in Kingdom Spiritual Knowledge 'as it is written' and in 'context' and accounted as a faithful doer of HIS every Word(CHRIST).

This is the best interpretation of the HOLY SPIRIT allowed now, that one would ever find to be 'built up', the church in knowledge faith, in order not to be in 'ignorance' and be deceived by other, even those who have not fully grown in allowed Kingdom knowledge in 'faith' according to the HOLY BIBLE. How can such person possible 'teach' others, when even using examples that doesn't matsh with the Holy Scripture and has been 'exposed' of false.

Therefore how can they prove to you they are faithful doers, being 'incomplete' in knowledge faith.?

This is clearly 'lawlessness' witnessing and deceiving others.

As it is written and even quoted in earlier reply to whom this may concern, that;

"The blind leading the blind and soon they are going to fall into a ditch."


Fred, where do I even start on your interpretation.

Those God foreknew he predisted, Fred. That's all that matters. God knows me, period. I know that being found in Christ is what Paul wanted for every one of his listeners all along. That's all that matters, every thing else is counted as a loss.

One flock, one shepherd. What you are saying contradicts what Jesus said Fred.

You are saying two peoples, one shepherd still, when Jesus clearly said one flock...I dont know why it's so hard for you to accept what Jesus said. Or what Paul said for that matter.

And if I'm wrong, ok. But I can say, I know God foreknew me sir.

As for all this humility you preach for others to display, where is yours? You tell people to 'shut up' in your posts.....ok. Practice what you preach!

As for your interpretation of Sarah and Hagar, wow. Hagar's children are born of woman naturally, (not born again), Sarah's children are born by the spirit, (born again). The children born in the ordinary way is the world, including the Jews who have not accepted Christ. Remeber, Paul said Hagar stands for the PRESENT CITY OF JERUSALEM, whose children are in slavery. You assume only Gentiles are in slavery....wrong, the whole world is a prisoner of Sin.....thats what Paul said. A man must be born again, its what Jesus came even unto his own proclaiming, because those are the children of promise, whose mother is Sarah. Those prisoners of sin are who Jesus came to free by becoming a curse himself!

Get rid of the slave womans son, because they arent born again, from imperishable seed, and we all know that the perishable can't INHERIT the imperishable-1st Cor. 15:50.
And that wording should be a sign to you, INHERIT THE KINDOM, because he's referencing the promise given to the seed after being born again and found in Christ.

You don't HAVE TO answer my question, because I know what the answer is already. There is only one chosen, holy nation God has chosen out of the world for himself, and that's why PETER was telling those washed by the blood of Christ who they really were.

And as for the blind leading the blind, he was speaking of the pharisees, and how they themselves nor their hearers, were allowing people to enter the Kingdom, because their message and understanding were lacking. They had forgotten about Faith and the rebirth and the cross.

In Christ it is one big happy family, because he himself declared that we will be so full of joy and there will be no more death, nor any more tears, and that sounds pretty happy to me! Scripture declares IN CHRIST there is no Jew, no greek, no slave no free, not even a male or female, we are all one in Christ, and I'm completely missing how you deny that in your 'understanding' and 'testimony' that directly contradicts everything Jesus and Paul and Peter wrote us. How can you say that once even the Jews are grafted into Christ, there is still a separation, that is a Lie! You deny the holy spirit, working through Paul who testifies to that very thing, because in your understanding you say the Jews are the mature and we still get the crumbs...like you have the whole table....no, to him faithfully waits for Him even unto the end: "It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. I tell you the truth, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them." So in Christ I tell you the truth, that there are no more crumbs, Jesus, my Savior, said himself God will prepare our table and feed us himself!

And yes Christ is coming down to save Israel in the end, and we who are grafted in, will be coming with him.

You also deny the teaching of the NT when you say this present city of Jerusalem is to whom the promises were given, these are the very ones who corresponded to Hagar, and THE PRESENT CITY OF JERUSALEM!

It is the children of promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed, as Paul said to us, you, brothers, LIKE ISAAC are children of promise, and WE are regarded as the seed, that was to come by being IN CHRIST. Why can you not see what that makes us of we are the seed of Abraham? If you think the promise comes a to ANY ONE ELSE, apart from Christ, you are the one in denial, for Paul himself said: "But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin,*so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe."

When I started this thread, it was for the understanding of how the prophets were talking about the salvation that comes through Faith, and how we as the body could understand how the prophets who predicted Christ's coming, were also talking about our salvation. .
It was not a boast sir, nor is it a boast to say what scripture declares.
 
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