Marriage

[Utah]

Moral of the story don't let Utah be the best man .

Only kidding

Better yet, don't even invite me to the wedding.

Speaking of invitation and on a serious note, here's something neat I saw a few years ago.

(Jesus speaking) You've invited me to your wedding, allow me to remain in your marriage.

I like that!

 

[pwrnJC]

Sadly, in a world where everybody sleeps together before marriage anyway, CHRISTIAN or not, and there is absolutely NOTHING to look forward to on a wedding night....marriage seems less and less important. First comes baby, marriage is optional and what's love got to do with it?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Appearances can be deceiving which is why the devil appears as an angel of light seeking to deceive even the elect, if such a thing is possible.

 

[secularhermit]

Out of curiosity does any one know who invented marriage, how this came about,
who and which culture set out the need for people to state their intentions in
public.

Just wondered as there seems to be many different cultural ideas.
For us it is a legally binding transaction which can take place in a church or
a registry office. But for other cultures they have different ways. What
seems to be common though is a public demonstration of intentions for a
man and a woman to come together in marriage.

Good point!

1) The ONE who seem having invented marriage is not acting as an actual matchmaker (at least in my life).

2) If He was over concerned on that issue (one of the most important, I think) He should be giving ppl PARTICULAR and recurrent advice in a) Whom I should be dating. b) What I should be doing to get EVERYTHING I lack or could be lacking. c) What pagans are doing WRONG actually so, their livesa and society could be utterly affected, as their life also.

I´m utterly convinced He is busy in His things... Besides, I remember the last time I asked Him: "God, please tell me if that woman is the one you want me to be married..." Everything seemed it was His "Yes" and, everything ended up as it wasn´t His business as matchmaker so, in my life experience, I have felt I´m absolutely abandoned to my OWN decisions (and most of them were completely wrong). So, I don´t agree God invented marriage, He invented love, instead and, honestly, I have fell short of His expectations and short in what other ppl have wanted.

Happily (and I thank God for that!) not everybody is an underachiever!

I did the best I knew I could.

 

[secularhermit]

Sadly, in a world where everybody sleeps together before marriage anyway, CHRISTIAN or not, and there is absolutely NOTHING to look forward to on a wedding night....marriage seems less and less important. First comes baby, marriage is optional and what's love got to do with it?

Bringing babies or stds is a wrong thing to be in... Love should comes 1st!

 

[secularhermit]

I have sometimes come across this with other people from my work. More so on the young side. They think that it is just a piece of paper.! If they want out of the relationship its just easy for them to go. They dont know the true Knowledge. Or they are truly afraid from what they have seen other people go thru and their hope and expectations are down and do not want to be disappointed .

That fear comes from those lies ppl are used to show off (as being loving when they´re probably NOT).

 

[secularhermit]

SecularHermit, you live in the Vatican city state in Rome when you're not in Hopeland Israel though right?

Im a place I cannot call home, that{ s why.

 

[secularhermit]

Moral of the story don't let Utah be the best man .

Only kidding

hahahah!

Are u talking of bad luck?

That exist NOT.

 

[secularhermit]

Just a little sweet story for you.

In my church years ago was an elderly lady almost 70. She was single all her life
and never married. Then out of the blue a child hood sweet heart who she lost contact
with during the war, managed to get in touch with her through a mutual old friend.

Ah it was love at first sight all over again and he was a Christian! Neither of them had
been Christians when they first met during the war and neither of them had ever married!

It almost seemed as if God had kept them both for each other and they found each other
in their old age.

To cut a long story short they got married and both lived in a rosy glow of happiness together.

I remember seeing her just a week befriend they married, she was so transformed and happy
almost like a teenager again.

Ok but, at 70 years?

That´s "practical" (just fot them)

That reminds me of a video...

[video]https://youtu.be/5CUa0aK9NwM[/video]

 

[secularhermit]

@Miri

"For us it is a legally binding transaction which can take place in a church or
a registry office."

The funny thing of that (of the registry) it is that, by 2009, those papers I signed when I was with a Colombian lady had an error and I went back to that offuce to get it corrected. The one in charge signed a new paper in white and asked me to fill in the blank. (I´m thakful for that!) and my own sister filled those blank lines and WAS TOTALLY LEGAL.

Ha! Ha!

Absolutely different! (if a person has those friends)

 

[Miri]

Ok but, at 70 years?

That´s "practical" (just fot them)

That reminds me of a video...

[video]https://youtu.be/5CUa0aK9NwM[/video]

ha ha that video so funny.

 

[secularhermit]

ha ha that video so funny.

You saw the funny thing (which is real) but the serfish one isw often bypassed. Let´s say the story is true: She saved his life in that war (1). She loved him when no one else would (or could) (2). He had MONEY to pay her back (in a MINIMUM AMMOUNT) but useful any time in life (3). That man was "in love" with THAT PAST he idealized (4)... I have seen things like that!

 

[Practice-English]

I'm only seventeen so...
Anyway,
A man is a man...
Humans are bad so ..

 

[mailmandan]

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[AgeofKnowledge]

For men, being legally married poses:

1. Enormous and potentially devastating life-long financial liabilities.

2. Incarceration in the nation's penal system as a criminal forcing them to declare themselves as such on every job application from that point forward for the rest of their life if they become sick and/or lose their job and are unable to make court-ordered payments to the ex-wife.

3. Loss of or greatly reduced access to their children.

4. A state of government mandated powerlessness in marriage, that didn't exist in the relationship before marriage, with the understanding that the female can push the no fault divorce button at anytime for any reason whatsoever whenever she feels like it transforming those enormous risks into present realities.

5. The declining benefit of marriage for men. The benefits of marriage have declined dramatically over the past few decades for men even as the risks and liabilities have dramatically increased.

6. Etc... There are other reasons I've not listed.

For men, the legal assumption of the enormous risks, liabilities, and state of powerlessness that the radical feminist standard government legal contract that comes with marriage is something to be avoided altogether.

It is for these reasons primarily (though other important reasons exist such as the general decline of biblical normative morality in Western Civilization) that so few young men voluntarily enter into that particular government legal contract anymore.

What men need, is a way to satisfy the biblical requirements of marriage without the enormous liability of the present radical feminist anti-male government contract.

For discussion: Reasons not to marry with a state marriage license

What do you think it is the reason about why some people just don't want to get married?I know some people have had bad marriages like my mom and her boyfriend,and I understand that,and that some people just don't want to get married,I know it's a big step,but what do you think is the thing that scares them about getting married?

 

[ArtsieSteph]

I think it stems from insecurity, and that isn't a bad thing. Worry that we're inadequate as a spouse, as a parent, as a caregiver, as a provider, ect. Sometimes it can lead to good things, like waiting to marry until finances are tight enough to be able to afford it. But if it's only based on worry and that is an excuse, then it can be a long time before it happens.

Personally I know I want to marry someday, but I know I'm gonna be scared to death to finally really be responsable for another human being other than myself. God willing I'm gonna get past that fear for love of my husband, but I think that's normal.

Also I think with the commonness of living together before marriage and so many divorces running rampant, I think many people think "What's the point? I can have sex without getting married, and it's probably just gonna break us up anyway." Lack of wanting to take responsability I think is a big part of it. Fear of comitment.