Repent

[Joshua_Generation]

"Former Pastor?" Isn't that like being a former marine? Once a marine/pastor, always a marine/pastor.

LOL! Thanks for the chuckle. I am not a former Marine, because I was never a Marine

It is pretty close to that analogy though. If you are called by God to preach, teach, heal, demonstrate and deliver as an Pastor or Evangelist, that you will have different assignments in the kingdom. I was taught by an old wise preacher to always be isntant in season. I have not had a church in the current assignment we are in [Traveling minister to the church at large], but If God needed me to take a church again, then I am a former Pastor and could accomplish that call. Because I am not an ex-Pastor, because like ex-Marine, there is no such thing.

If you have a Marine in your life, Semper-Fi!

 

[Grandpa]

that's the 'secret' , for you, for now. the truth is on purpose hidden by God from you.

I tee this stuff up for you legalists and every time its a shank into the woods.

Its not hidden and its not a secret.

Matthew 11:28-31
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

(This is repentance. This is forsaking your own way and your own understanding and coming to Christ, believing He is a rewarder for you who have diligently sought Him with your whole heart.)

[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

John 15:4-5

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

1 Timothy 1:5-7

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


Why wouldn't you have taken that opportunity to point someone to Christ when they asked how can a carnal man forsake his carnality? Isn't it obvious that Christ is the only answer for us?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Unless we repent we will not see the kingdom of God.

Self must die.

Luk 9:23 And he said unto all, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Luk 9:24 For whosoever would save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Luk 9:25 For what is a man profited, if he gain the whole world, and lose or forfeit his own self?
Luk 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in his own glory, and the glory of the Father, and of the holy angels.


You must give up your life in order to have Jesus. Have you done this?

Or do you live much for self?

DO you eat what you eat for you or God?
Do you do what you do for you or God?

Self must die, count the cost.

Luk 14:27 Whosoever doth not bear his own cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
Luk 14:28 For which of you, desiring to build a tower, doth not first sit down and count the cost, whether he have wherewith to complete it?
Luk 14:29 Lest haply, when he hath laid a foundation, and is not able to finish, all that behold begin to mock him,
Luk 14:30 saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
Luk 14:31 Or what king, as he goeth to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and take counsel whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
Luk 14:32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and asketh conditions of peace.
Luk 14:33 So therefore whosoever he be of you that renounceth not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.


Friends you are not your own if you will have life as it is written:

1Co 6:19 Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;
1Co 6:20 for ye were bought with a price: glorify God therefore in your body.

How much of your life is for you?

Do you spend your time on movies and games and entertainments of this world while claiming to be saved?

Do you do these things while people are perishing for lack of the truth all over the world and in your own back yard?

Jesus gave up heaven and His throne to save us and even gave up his life on the cross. He said of himself:

Joh_4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Joh_5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.


Who's will do you do? for to love the world is hatred towards God.

Self must die in order to be a disciple of Jesus. are you willing to give up your life now for Jesus. If not look to the cross see what God was willing to do for you and count the cost. Salvation will cost your life. but those who lose their life here will gain it in eternity.

Choose you this day who you will serve. and do not think to yourselves that you are children of God for God can rise up children from the dust of the ground.

But unless you repent and turn from your sins and self to God you shall not see the kingdom of God.

Anyone who knowingly and willingly chooses to commit what they know full well is sinful, yet chooses to do it anyways, is indeed living for SELF and not for God. All willful sin is SELFISHNESS.

^i^

 

[DiscipleDave]

I do not like the attitude I sense in this thread of yours. See coming to the point where everything we do is for God is something that takes a great deal of experience hardships and overcoming many fiery trials. It is not something easily obtained and may take some up to 10 years or even more to achieve, it is a learning and growing process with him and each person learns and grows at different rates.

So he judges who is his disciple by the heart not how strong in him they are

What you say is True, However, woe to them who think they have already abtained, and do not even try to cease from their sinning, these continue to live in sins and still think they are Heaven bound, reprobate minds, Calling Jesus their Lord, but willingly obeying the Lord's enemy, and committing acts of darkness (sins) without ever ceasing from them, nor looking to the Strength and Power of Jesus to overcome those sins, reprobate minds they are.

^i^ Responding to post # 4

 

[DiscipleDave]

don't take anyone's word for it. as you did in the past, rely on yahweh's WORD (SCRIPTURE), and ask yahweh for HIS WORD , not man's, to be revealed to you.

those who are lookwarm won't listen, they don't dare, because they know they stand judged if they do -- and would have to "repent" > turn to yahweh and away from sin, "repent", or continue in sin in rebellion ...

yahshua(jesus) says there's no in-between(even in the time it takes to develop discipline in walking with yahweh in faith and in righteousness in yahshua) .... either you're following yahshua, or someone else.

rely on yahweh's WORD.

remember that no 'fake' church is going to let you know that it's fake or greedy or sensual or carnal or worldly or anything "not right", if it can help it --- they'll either be whitewashed tombs , trying to appear good, or they'll 'change' and rely on traditions of men instead of yahweh's WORD and they will
teach the traditions instead of the truth of yahweh's WORD.

rely on yahweh's WORD. trust yahweh. he is trustworthy and faithful and true. and HIS WORD is true.

i have found that most Churches teach Truths. The problem with most Churches though is they only teach part Truths and not the whole Truth. Baptist teach Truths concerning baptism, but many fail to teach the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Pentecostals teach Truths concerning the gifts of the Spirit but many fail to teach the importance of baptism. Any denominational Church HAS to preach that denominations main directives, Preachers are not allowed to preach anything that conflicts with the denomination that they are under, even if he does not agree with it. If that preacher does teach things contrary to the denomination that he is under, even if it is clearly Scriptural, will be asked to step down from the position of Pastor, or STOP preaching things that are contrary to the doctrinal beliefs of the denomination that he serves under. Therefore many preacher have to NOT teach the Truths that the Holy Ghost has revealed to them, because it conflicts with the denomination they serve. Therefore many, MANY denominational Churches do not Preach the FULL Truth of the Scriptures.
Also why i am talking about Churches the Holy Spirit of God put it on me to say this as well. SHAME on anyone who does not go to Church because there are too many hypocrites there, You go to Church to learn and praise God, you go to Church because it pleases God that you go to serve Him. What then, you stop going to Church to learn and Praise God because of Hypocrites? excuses that is, nothing but an excuse.

^i^ REsponding to post number 8

 

[DiscipleDave]

I myself have a hard time understanding why so many people feel they have the right to judge others but rarely seem to think they need to look in on themselves. I see a lot of that going on in this thread, and I'm often guilty of it, too.

Scriptures teach we are not to judge unrighteously, that is True. To Judge or Not to Judge

Me? I struggle. Everyone does. If you say you don't have days that make even you wonder if you're a Christian, they I say, you are a liar.

Than according to your JUDGEMENT, i would be considered a liar to you. i serve Jesus Christ EVERY DAY. my hour drive to work i pray and praise Him Every day. At work, i listen to the Bible for 8 hours, EVERY DAY, on the way home for an hour, i pray and worship Him. When i get home i answer emails from people asking me questions about the Bible, or need spiritual help of some kind. Then i go to bed and do the same thing the next day, i do that EVERY DAY. Weekends i mostly go help people who are in need of my help. my Aunt, my Mom, my other Aunt, have no men in their lives, so i help them do what needs to be done around their houses, Praising God the whole time. i can though remember a time that i doubted being a Christian and that was in the early 90's. So you go ahead and call me a liar, But God is my witness that i am telling the Truth and am not lying.

No one can tell by the actions of another if that person is a Christian,

You will know them by their fruits. Those who choose to do evil and wicked things, are evil and wicked. Those who choose to do good and holy things are good and holy. Those who do righteousness are righteous, those who do unrighteousness are unrighteous. Those who do good are good, those who do evil are evil. All these things can be found in the Word of God. Those who do righteousness walk in the light as Jesus did. Those who willingly do that which is unrighteous walk in darkness and NOT in the light. a little bit of leaven, leaveneth the whole lump. little bit of darkness makes the whole darkness. a Good Tree that produces even one bad fruit is a bad tree according to the Inspired Word of God.

and no one has the right to come up to someone and say, "You need to live righteously" unless they have not only watched, but also discussed that person's life situation.

i 100% agree with this, as it is written first remove the log in your own eye, then you will be able to try to remove the spec in another's eye. So then when a person does remove the log out of their own eye they can see clearly to try to remove the spec in another persons eye.

Far too much of what goes into this forum is someone's self-righteous view that they have mistaken for actual righteousness. Get a clue, folks, when Paul quoted Isaiah in Romans 3:10 and declares "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE," he wasn't referring to just the unbeliever.

i believe this verse is the most misused verse in the entire Scriptures, because 100% of the time this verse is taken out of context of the other verses which follow. People use this verse to falsely teach, there is NONE that is righteous, they have altogether taken this verse out of context to fit their own belief and NOT what Scriptures is trying to teach.

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

What then, there is NONE that seeketh after God? What? There is NONE that doeth good? These verses are NOT saying there is NONE righteous, there is NONE that doeth good, there is NONE that seeketh after God. False teachers use Rom 3:10 to teach there is NONE righteous, they are wrong and do not listen to them, they know not the Truth, nor understand.
Romans

Often on here, we see posted Jesus' warning about looking past logs in our own eyes to complain about someone else's speck. Perhaps we should all check ourselves for logs before daring to post the "definitive piece" -- or respond to others' "definite piece" -- on how others should live righteously. Perhaps make sure we are doing so ourselves first? What a concept.

i agree with what you say, but there is only one problem. Are you not judging them to have a log in their eye if you say they should not try to remove a speck in another?
For example if i tell someone that they should live righteously, how do you know that i have a log in my own eye and should not be telling people to remove the speck in theirs? And what if i have removed the log in my own eye and can now see clearly to help others removed the speck in theirs? Am i wrong to try to help others remove logs and specks from their eyes so that they too can see and understand the Truth? If i love another and see that they are doing something that will prevent them from entering into Heaven, should i hold my tongue and say nothing, or say something to that person because i love them and want them to go to Heaven? Granted if you have a log, or even a speck in your own eye, you should NOT be trying to tell others to remove the speck in their eyes when that person has a speck themselves in their own eye. First cast out the log in your own eye, then and ONLY then do you have the right and calling to try to help others remove the speck in their eye. Should i tell a person to cease from fornicating if i fornicate? Should i tell a person to stop being addicted to drugs, if i am addicted to nicotine? Should i try to remove a speck in my brothers eye when i have a speck in my own eye? NO, is the answer. ONLY when you remove the speck in your own eye first, then you can righteously try to help others who have a speck in their eyes.

This is not directed to the OP or anyone else in particular. It is just a general attitude around here that, at least to me, seems evident on this thread, and throughout the board. It grows wearisome, and I'm as guilty as anyone else.

understand your frustration, but you did the Godly thing in addressing your concern on this matter, it is only when you stop trying to help others grow spiritually that you may be in danger. But you said all that you did above in order to help, and that is commendable.

Responding to post 14

 

[Jeff_56]

......
Why wouldn't you have taken that opportunity to point someone to Christ when they asked how can a carnal man forsake his carnality? Isn't it obvious that Christ is the only answer for us?

you might one day learn to take directions from yahweh, as yahshua said to do.

as you said, or did you lie? you don't appear to know how to not be carnal,
and
apparently you don't want to know - you've 'accepted' some other <whatever> that allows you
to stay carnal or otherwise not to truly repent(change direction), but to remain 'comfortable' in your sin
instead of renouncing it.

I and others have "pointed" you to Christ, in HIS WORD, on this forum, and from your own words you keep denying HIM and remaining carnal, "willingly".

 

[DiscipleDave]

the impression I get from these OT prophet types is that they somehow have gotten the impression that God's only desire is to judge us and then judge us again and then once more for good measure

And i am sure that is why the OT prophet types were all killed because of what they taught.

did the earth tilt off its axis and all the nuts decide to post here or what?

And calling them nuts is helping them how? Where Jesus in you? Where is your love for them?

if someone has to get scared into heaven, I doubt the sincerity of their confession

every day I go before God and ask forgiveness for sins I have committed and every day I renew my
hope and trust in Him and every day I fall short.

Every day you ask forgiveness of your sins, EVERY DAY? What sins do you do every day that Jesus can't help you cease from, if you looked to Him for His Strength and Power to overcome those sins that you do every day, and every day you repent of the same sins over and over and over again, is that right? How sorry are you for committing those sins, if you continue to do them every single day, over and over and over again? There is no sin that you do that you can't cease from, but you choose for some reason NOT to cease from them, why do you do that? Jesus taught that every temptation that comes upon you He allows a path out of it, and He makes sure that that temptation is NOT so strong that you can't handle it. Are you saying that every sin that you commit all the day long, that you do NOT seek Jesus to help you to overcome that sinning? You say you renew your hope and trust in Him every day, but do not seek Him when you are committing sins that whole day is that what you are saying? Do you Trust Him to help you to overcome that sinning every day? Or are you one of those who believe that you can live wickedly and continue to sin every single day without ever ceasing or looking to Jesus to OVERCOME those sins, and still think you are Heaven bound even though every time you knowingly and willingly commit a sin that you KNOW is sinful yet choose to do it anyways, you deny His Strength and Power to overcome that sin?

I have no hope at all except in Christ and the mercy of God

And where is your hope that Christ can help you to overcome your sinning? Every message to the seven Churches in revelation is ONLY to those who overcome their sinning. And all of us living an extra day to come to the Truth in Jesus Christ is indeed the Mercy of God, because if satan had his way, he would kill ever single person that is still living in sin. It is the Mercy of God that all those who continue to live in sin, still remain alive with a chance to REPENT, and not repent daily for the same sins over and over again, but Truly REPENT, that is to say REPENT and cease from doing that which you claim to be sorry for committing. HOw sorry is a person who repents Lord please forgive me for having sex with that girl yesterday, then goes about to have sex with that girl yet again, and again and again and again. How sorry is that one? NOT at all, even though they repent to God, their heart is not right with God, therefore NOT forgiven.

you religious zealots...because that is what you are....must be very weighed down with all those stones in your pockets

You throw a stone at them by saying calling them names, judging them thus, all the while saying they have stones in their pockets. Tell me which is better to have stones in ones pocket or to throw them?

Condemnation is not from God...condemnation is from the devil and he would like nothing better than that we all walk around miserable and hopeless

The entire Bible teaches condemnation to those who are not righteous, holy, and just. And the Truth is the devil desires for us to continue to live in sins and still think we are righteous, holy and Just. Do you not believe you are Righteous, holy, and just, yet you admitted that you ask forgiveness of your sins EVERY DAY. Tell me, in that logic, if you were to commit sins all day long and die before you ask forgiveness of your sins that day, are you still forgiven? Do you not believe you have to ask forgiveness EVERY single night of your sins for that particular day, so what if you don't get to ask forgiveness for your sins that particular day, are you still Heaven bound even though you have sins that you have NOT asked forgiveness for? Do you see how illogical asking forgiveness for the same sins over and over and over and over again Every day for 365 days a years? When i smoked cigarettes, i never once asked God to forgive me for smoking, KNOWING full well i would continue to do the very thing i am asking forgiveness for. But when i ceased from smoking, that is when i asked God to forgive me for smoking, and never smoked again. It is written in REV 21:8 that all liars shall burn in the lake of fire and brimstone. i assure you, those who continue to lie and do not cease from lying, will be judged as a LIAR, no matter how many times they repent of lying, those who are Truly repentant in their hearts will repent of lying and cease to ever lie again. A LIAR is anyone who continues to lie. One who is a liar, repents and never lies again, is NOT a liar, they have repented of it and ceased from it. But if they continue to lie, they ARE a LIAR and the Word of God can't be broken and NO LIAR shall enter into Heaven. So this generation can continue to lie and repent and continue to lie and repent of it, continue to lie and repent of it, and on Judgment Day, they willl be judged as a Liar, Why? Because they never ceased from lying. They never looked to Jesus to give them Strength and Power to Stop lying, to stop sinning against God.

Do you really suppose everyone but you is drowning in their sin and thumbs their nose at God? That is one arrogant and self righteous attitude

i agree, But i also agree that anyone who claims Jesus is their Master and Lord and Savior, yet knowingly and willingly choose to obey His enemy and commit sin, and still think they are Righteous, Good, Just, Holy are more arrogant than those you mentioned above.

^i^Responding to post #15

 

[gotime]

So, I'm a heathen because I do watch movies, play card games, and joke around with people? Yeah, okay, if that's what you want to believe.

Personally, I'm thankful God has given me a TV, a computer, and a mind to entertain.

I'm not big on condemnation as a gospel.

Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling hath seized the godless ones: Who among us can dwell with the devouring fire? who among us can dwell with everlasting burnings?
Isa 33:15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from taking a bribe, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from looking upon evil:
Isa 33:16 he shall dwell on high; his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks; his bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.

 

[Jeff_56]

who will have access to yahweh's presence ? not the unclean, but he whose hands are clean - right living, by faith through grace in yahshua as yahweh decreed. psalm 100? etc etc et al

as far as all the distractions of the world/ usa/ churches/ entertainment ???

jesus answered that once. never changed. ( a divided heart is not pure)

jesus answered that more than once. never changed. always in harmony from the father.

 

[mailmandan]

How?

How can a carnal man forsake his carnality?

Good question. 1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. 2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; 3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? It doesn't sound like these Corinthians have completely forsaken their carnality, yet they are still called babes in Christ. This does not mean that they never did repent and believe the gospel to become saved (babes IN CHRIST are saved) but they still need to grow spiritually and become mature in Christ.

 

[ember]

who will have access to yahweh's presence ? not the unclean, but he whose hands are clean - right living, by faith through grace in yahshua as yahweh decreed. psalm 100? etc etc et al

as far as all the distractions of the world/ usa/ churches/ entertainment ???

jesus answered that once. never changed. ( a divided heart is not pure)

jesus answered that more than once. never changed. always in harmony from the father.

why are you wasting your time on here then?

I am sure your Jesus expects you to be out there 24/7 harvesting

there are too many distractions on the pc and what if you were tempted to laugh or something?

tsk

 

[Grandpa]

you might one day learn to take directions from yahweh, as yahshua said to do.

as you said, or did you lie? you don't appear to know how to not be carnal,
and
apparently you don't want to know - you've 'accepted' some other <whatever> that allows you
to stay carnal or otherwise not to truly repent(change direction), but to remain 'comfortable' in your sin
instead of renouncing it.

I and others have "pointed" you to Christ, in HIS WORD, on this forum, and from your own words you keep denying HIM and remaining carnal, "willingly".

I think you and others are really confused.

So you just quit leading people to Christ because they have accepted some <whatever> ?

I think you and I are miles and miles apart on what Christianity is.

 

[Jeff_56]

why are you wasting your time on here then?...

why did jesus waste his time going to the cities that did not repent ? or did he?

 

[Jeff_56]

I think you and others are really confused.

So you just quit leading people to Christ because they have accepted some <whatever> ?

I think you and I are miles and miles apart on what Christianity is.

the carnal and the worldly (if there is a difference or not) cannot grasp even the simplest truth, so
your confusion is natural.
you asked how to not be carnal indicating by your own admission(and posts) you are still carnal. you don't show in your posts that you understand yahweh,
only that you think (or 'hope') you are saved 'somehow'? and can't lose your salvation because salvation is free after all
and you 'think' salvation cannot be lost, even in those people who are not even saved... round and round you go....

 

[Willie-T]

I think you and others are really confused.

So you just quit leading people to Christ because they have accepted some <whatever> ?

I think you and I are miles and miles apart on what Christianity is.

Now, THERE is possibly a whopping understatement.

 

[ember]

why did jesus waste his time going to the cities that did not repent ? or did he?

that's a dodge...how many converts do you have? you know, people you have made over to be just like you?

you are wasting your time here...no one accepts your false doctrine

 

[UnderHiswings]

I wonder sometimes why we so strongly argument about the things we believe is right. I believe most of us put our hope in the truth we perceive and anything but that shakes our world. We should take note of what Paul says in 1 Cor 9-10:

'For we know in part, and we prophecy in part, but when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part with be done away. NKJV

the NLV says it even better:

'Now I knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! But when the time of perfection comes, the partial things will become useless.'

These arguments will become useless, why waste so much time on them?

This also means that ALL of us don't have the COMPLETE truth but need to have faith in Him who gives salvation - thats about it.

If I strongly protect my argument, where is my faith in Christ in all of that, isn't your faith more in my argument? We shouldn't waste time and energy on these arguments but rather our focus on getting to know Him better and sharing with one another what He revealed to us, but without judging the other persons perception of truth, that's his truth, respect him/her for the season he/she is in their walk with Christ.

It's not by power or by might that one person will start to believe what you believe, let the Holy Spirit show Him which way if He was wrong, we are sometimes acting completely out of place with our comments about someones truth. Anyways, thinking he was wrong means your putting yourself spiritually above/higher than the other person, and whether you want to know it or not, it's still pride. God says in Proverbs, He resists the pride, and self-justification of oneself to feel better is also pride, then you are resisting God. We should just give these things over to Him.

If God is the judge in the kingdom that you belong to, then let Him do the judging and let go of there futile fights, let Him do what He does best... We should love one another in Christ, not protect our views. Fighting over them is a kingdom divided against itself.

You are either for Him or against Him, and if you love him, no matter what your views, or my views about your views, we are all on His team, but His the Leader not us, we should stick to our heavenly job descriptions, which is NOT judging or protecting our perceptions of truth.

None of us have the whole truth like Paul said. All of us, should aim at our goals, the finishing prize, Jesus, and not be bothered about how my brother and sister is getting to his/her goal. The only thing we owe each other is love, not judgment, and not pushing someone to believe that my truth is the truth. If we share, it should be out of love, not to prove or provoke but because of mere excitement in Christ, about our King and who He is to us personally.

Thats mutual respect and unity in His kingdom and it also reveals an ultimate faith in Christ, to restore perfection in all of us, in His due time.

 

[Willie-T]

Does anyone even consider, for a moment, that God may read these very posts we write back to us when determining our Eternal fate?

 

[tourist]

How?

How can a carnal man forsake his carnality?

If he is the least bit wise he would realize that he does not have it within him alone to effect positive spiritual change in his life.