Loving Yourself Thread

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Yes, Paul does say that nothing good dwells in this flesh --- BUT, Paul delights in the inward man
where our Holy Father has written His word....

cross,

we would like you to re-think what you think our Father must think of you...
if there wasn't something totally special and unique about you, then, for heaven's sake
why would the King of the Universe give you a second thought??

Cross, there is an original 'blue-print' which is not faulty through God's creation,
but through sin.
as it is written;
He has redeemed us from the transgression under the first Covenant - and again,
Behold, a new man with Jesus Christ living in him.

remember, your body is NOT your own, our Father's expectations of you belong only to you alone -
they are yours, no one can steal them, it's kind of like He gave each of us our own dna which makes us
completely unique - I think He knows what He doing, do you?
I don't think I'm following your train of thought. I will say that the 'inner man' is that New Creation that is a work of God...again not on account of me.
 
I don't think he is trying to either. I think C.S. Lewis is great to use here because he clearly outlines what it actually means to be falsely humble He also explains what it means to be truly humble and that includes recognizing your abilities and yes, loving yourself. He outlines that there is a difference between "animal self-love" and the godly kind of self-love.

I could make guesses to Crossnote's self esteem but I would either be totally wrong or he would deny it. I have a thing where I can "read people" I don't know how well it works via internet though. It's not magic or anything,...all psychology.

Anywho's sorry about the tiny font. I'll use a bigger font next time.
It would help if you would kindly use Scripture to prove your case about me rather than humanistic psychology.
Also cite some specific sentences I have written.
 
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It would help if you would kindly use Scripture to prove your case about me rather than humanistic psychology.
Also cite some specific sentences I have written.

You sure you want me to do that?? To be honest I could...I have the verses and all your missteps lined up. I don't really wanna post those though. You are kinda mean but it would be wrong of me to be like "look at how wrong you are" especially on a public forum. I'll PM you about it though. ;-)
 
You sure you want me to do that?? To be honest I could...I have the verses and all your missteps lined up. I don't really wanna post those though. You are kinda mean but it would be wrong of me to be like "look at how wrong you are" especially on a public forum. I'll PM you about it though. ;-)
No don't PM me . I want this out in the open as I have nothing to hide.
Just give them one at a time, I don't do well with a flood.
 
Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. Romans 12:16

Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. 1 Peter 3:8


I know I am freely accepted in the Beloved on account of Christ despite myself. With that, I can freely love others without getting hung up on myself.
Can you now?
Luke 18:10-14

How ironic, as our culture immerses itself in self love it's children are overcome by self hate. 1 Corinthians 13:4


I'm still looking for someone to post the command/verse that says "love yourself".
Romans 14:1-23

Ok, let's put it this way, ..Do you honestly love your neighbor as much as you already love yourself?
Luke 6:37

I'll post the rest when I get back from taking my bf home.
 
Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited. Romans 12:16

Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. 1 Peter 3:8


I know I am freely accepted in the Beloved on account of Christ despite myself. With that, I can freely love others without getting hung up on myself.
Can you now?
Luke 18:10-14

How ironic, as our culture immerses itself in self love it's children are overcome by self hate. 1 Corinthians 13:4


I'm still looking for someone to post the command/verse that says "love yourself".
Romans 14:1-23

Ok, let's put it this way, ..Do you honestly love your neighbor as much as you already love yourself?
Luke 6:37

I'll post the rest when I get back from taking my bf home.
So far those were honest questions and statements and Scriptures. Sorry if they offended you.
 
Take the first. You cited Luke 18. I wasn't comparing myself with others but rather myself with Christ to myself without Christ.
 
I don't think I'm following your train of thought. I will say that the 'inner man' is that New Creation that is a work of God...again not on account of me.
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yes, brother, all is a work of God - and if it were not on account of you, then we, each one of us would
be exactly the same 'clown', not sorry for this, but extremely thankful.....

He showed me many, many years ago that I was a 'one of a kind', and also that He was relieved because of this!

I simply have no problem what so ever that He has chosen to make me in a way
that no one else would have a choice to be me - (to Him may we give all of the glory)
this blessing is one of the most unique things that this very limited mind/being can comprehend and appreciate.

bottom-line, He is the Author and Finisher of every thing that we can ever comprehend....and, only by
His precious grace.
 
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JF, I can see you are an extremely sensitive person. I do not do too well with sensitive people on the internet because my style and the format, usually humorous, just doesn't click. So I'll forego and leave your thread.
 
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You pretend to understand Jack's writings, you should be able to understand mine.
The truth you don't seem to grasp is "on account of Christ ".
So it is on account of Christ, God has gifted us, forgiven us, accepts us, calls us His children etc.. I can’t make it much plainer than that.
Dumb question: Is C.S. Jack? If so, I never knew that.
 
Take the first. You cited Luke 18. I wasn't comparing myself with others but rather myself with Christ to myself without Christ.

I cited Luke 18 because to me it came off like you being all "oh look at me! Look at me! Look at what a good christian I am! I'm soooo humble and I can love others freely with Jesus' help of course and not get hung up on myself! Oh isn't that marvelous!"
 
JF, I can see you are an extremely sensitive person. I do not do too well with sensitive people on the internet because my style and the format, usually humorous, just doesn't click. So I'll forego and leave your thread.

Yeeeah I'm the kind of person who needs CLEAR communication.
 
11Cor. 8:7.
Therefore, as ye abound in every thing, in faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and in all diligence, and in your love to us, see that ye abound in this grace also. = that you love yourselves as Christ has chosen to love you....please forgive me, I just can't help but to accept
His most gracious, generous, love.
 
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Yeeeah I'm the kind of person who needs CLEAR communication.
Jf Cross note is a really great guy he is one of the ones who helped me mature in faith, I am not going to take sides in this conversation between you and him but just know that I can vouch for his heart. But more importantly remember the point of your thread:D
 
Jf Cross note is a really great guy he is one of the ones who helped me mature in faith, I am not going to take sides in this conversation between you and him but just know that I can vouch for his heart. But more importantly remember the point of your thread:D

ik. I remember the point of this thread very clearly. I just wish it could have turned out different...

I don't doubt crossnote's heart...I believe he loves Jesus it's just from what I have read he comes off as a bit of a legalist. And this being on a computer screen I can't read in to his tone of voice, I can't see his body language so I can't get the entire message he is trying to convey. I got the impression that he's a pompous, snooty legalist.

He explained that he used humor?? That went waaaaay over my head. Like WAY over because I can't hear the humor in his text. What I see is someone challenging me. Whenever I go on to a forum like this I like to use ** to outline my actions when they are needed or even my tone of voice to help convey what I am saying better.

So maybe the Bible thread as a whole needs to start using the ** so we can understand each other's tone better...just my opinion.
 
ik. I remember the point of this thread very clearly. I just wish it could have turned out different...

I don't doubt crossnote's heart...I believe he loves Jesus it's just from what I have read he comes off as a bit of a legalist. And this being on a computer screen I can't read in to his tone of voice, I can't see his body language so I can't get the entire message he is trying to convey. I got the impression that he's a pompous, snooty legalist.

He explained that he used humor?? That went waaaaay over my head. Like WAY over because I can't hear the humor in his text. What I see is someone challenging me. Whenever I go on to a forum like this I like to use ** to outline my actions when they are needed or even my tone of voice to help convey what I am saying better.

So maybe the Bible thread as a whole needs to start using the ** so we can understand each other's tone better...just my opinion.

You can't hear inflection on a forum so it's hard. It's best to try to take a high view and ask questions. Additionally. I think you would have had better luck with this thread in the family forum. I still understand what you're saying tho.
 
ik. I remember the point of this thread very clearly. I just wish it could have turned out different...

I don't doubt crossnote's heart...I believe he loves Jesus it's just from what I have read he comes off as a bit of a legalist. And this being on a computer screen I can't read in to his tone of voice, I can't see his body language so I can't get the entire message he is trying to convey. I got the impression that he's a pompous, snooty legalist.

He explained that he used humor?? That went waaaaay over my head. Like WAY over because I can't hear the humor in his text. What I see is someone challenging me. Whenever I go on to a forum like this I like to use ** to outline my actions when they are needed or even my tone of voice to help convey what I am saying better.

So maybe the Bible thread as a whole needs to start using the ** so we can understand each other's tone better...just my opinion.
well it takes a time to learn the tone behind someone online and a lot of time it turns out it was merely our view of their tone that was the issue believe me it took me a long time to learn that
 
You can't hear inflection on a forum so it's hard. It's best to try to take a high view and ask questions. Additionally. I think you would have had better luck with this thread in the family forum. I still understand what you're saying tho.

I thought about doing that but I wanted to have a Bible study. I knew I was taking a risk by posting it here but I was REALLY hoping people would get it. I was at least hoping people would do the two self-positives and one other-positive but nnnnoooooo! It turned in to another arguing thread about nothing! :-(

I was hoping for differing opinions but I was so hoping they would have been stated nicely in a godly way so that no one would feel like their voice was invalid. I was hoping this was going to be a nice thread. I was hoping not to be lectured about what a "good Christian" should and should not do.